vfterlife 87 Posted April 14, 2019 Hi. A month ago, I created a topic here about the problem of a stretched image in APB: And a couple of days ago, I accidentally found out that Fortnite stopped supporting the stretched image.link: https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/competitive/en-US/news/competitive-fortnite-state-of-development-4-3-19?lang=en-US That made me raise this topic again. This time I will not be toxic. Now I expect to get the position of LO on this issue. @MattScott Please, tell me what you think about this. It will be the best gift, if with a engine upgrade you will stop supporting stretched image. Players: If this does not give an advantage: then tell me why so many players use it, possessing even good computers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zolerox 564 Posted April 14, 2019 All i want to know is, with enough monitors is it possible to get a 360 FOV in apb?. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5365 Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Zolerox said: All i want to know is, with enough monitors is it possible to get a 360 FOV in apb?. APB VR when? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheater 296 Posted April 14, 2019 I just cant take you seriously 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parthian 344 Posted April 14, 2019 what if u use a crt monitor? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5365 Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, Amberwind said: what if u use a crt monitor? That's a ban. Heckler chet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nite 261 Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, vfterlife said: Players: If this does not give an advantage: then tell me why so many players use it, possessing even good computers Is it any at all possible that the supposed advantage is an illusion being bought into? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swft 356 Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, Nite said: Is it any at all possible that the supposed advantage is an illusion being bought into? Pretty sure that's the case, the thing is, native resolution just looks god damn awful in APB due to the default FOV. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gateron 267 Posted April 14, 2019 People use it because 1 because old school used to it. Second Weapon recoils are much easier to control the lower the resolution is. That's why you see some Russians with super weird patootie squashed resolutions so they can M1 there Ntec's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tako 93 Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) I don't understand why do you show this as a "problem" when everyone can use it, I mean if it gives an advantage in apb , why don't you use that advantage too ? Edited April 14, 2019 by Takotak 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neophobia 216 Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Takotak said: I don't understand why do you show this as a "problem" when everyone can use it, I mean sure it gives an advantage in apb , why don't you use that advantage too ? ^ the mild advantage it gives never was an issue in the "classic" competetive shooters, counterstrike (including the most modern installation, global offensive), rainbow six (including the most modern installation, siege ), as well as games like CoD (including the latest installation, BO4 ) and battlefield (probably including 4, could only fine something about 1 (the modern one) https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/13730/bf1-4-3-resolution-blackbars-or-stretched) Just an overblown controversy in fortnite. i see no reason for a rather "casual-competetive" game like APB to adapt to something which isn't even considered a meaningful edge in actual, more competetive games. Edited April 14, 2019 by neophobia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tako 93 Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, neophobia said: ^ the mild advantage it gives never was an issue in the "classic" competetive shooters, counterstrike (including the most modern installation, global offensive), rainbow six (including the most modern installation, siege ), as well as games like CoD (including the latest installation, BO4 ) and battlefield (probably including 4, could only fine something about 1 (the modern one) https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/13730/bf1-4-3-resolution-blackbars-or-stretched) Just an overblown controversy in fortnite. i see no reason for a rather "casual-competetive" game like APB to adapt to something which isn't even considered a meaningful edge in actual, more competetive games, I edited my message, my bad ^^ I never ever said or think that, I totally agree with you, I'm just poiting out what this guy is thinking about the stretched resolution, he finds it's an advantage and want it removed. I edited my message, my bad ^^ Edited April 14, 2019 by Takotak , Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sayori 311 Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Gateron said: People use it because 1 because old school used to it. Second Weapon recoils are much easier to control the lower the resolution is. That's why you see some Russians with super weird patootie squashed resolutions so they can M1 there Ntec's. Old school gamers apb? Average age must be 15-20 yo. Last time I had CRT monitor was in 2006 and when I went to buy a new monitor they had no CRT's anymore. Pretty sure op is trolling but lowres stretched makes a difference, - a positive one. However I'm not going to make my game look like a potato. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neophobia 216 Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Takotak said: I never ever said or think that, I totally agree with you, I'm just poiting out what this guy is thinking about the stretched resolution, he finds it's an advantage and want it removed. I edited my message, my bad ^^ sorry, the ^ was meant as "^this" and i just added something xd 1 hour ago, Gateron said: People use it because 1 because old school used to it. Second Weapon recoils are much easier to control the lower the resolution is. That's why you see some Russians with super weird patootie squashed resolutions so they can M1 there Ntec's. i believe it's mostly about hitboxes being "broader" so a bit less aim is required and e.g. heads are a bit easier to hit. the recoil patterns are the same and should be scaled accordingly, since they are not tied to pixels or any relative measurement (afaik). Edited April 14, 2019 by neophobia 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5365 Posted April 14, 2019 4:3 is just a preference, not an advantage. I prefer my 16:9, so it's what I use. I feel like it's really none if my business what someone else prefers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted April 14, 2019 4 hours ago, CookiePuss said: APB VR when? That would be fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunsei 15 Posted April 14, 2019 After the first thread, I'm gonna have to say, OP is either trolling (still) or just outright mentally challenged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acornie 490 Posted April 15, 2019 I feel obligated to say again; what the OP is actually on about is ratios 16:9 or 4:3, I suppose I would be curious for a response from Little Orbit if something like this will change with UE3.5, but I really don't think it matters 6 hours ago, vfterlife said: Players: If this does not give an advantage: then tell me why so many players use it, possessing even good computers Because they're sheep? Placebo? People doing it =/= smart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6152 Posted April 15, 2019 6 hours ago, vfterlife said: Players: If this does not give an advantage: then tell me why so many players use it, possessing even good computers i'd like to refer you to this thread for the answers to your question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fur 87 Posted April 15, 2019 I have a CRT, and yes I still play games on it (INCLUDING APB). I don't know why people think it gives such a huge advantage, it is purely preference and in some cases just to save fps. Have you even actually played stretched res? Have you done any better using stretched res very obviously? If the answer is no to either of these then you should probably delete this thread because you have no idea what you're talking about. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiz 14 Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) I use a CRT aswell, mostly because I can't afford a decent 144hz monitor :^) I just hope 16:9 isn't enforced any time soon, like someone already pointed out, APB is ~pretty casual~, and stretched image isn't that helpful (apparently), since CSGO pro players, that were the ones that abused stretched res, actually use black bars nowdays (I'm generalazing, of course) Edited April 15, 2019 by Hiz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zolerox 564 Posted April 15, 2019 I'm gonna take my 1 monitor i've had for 8 years and walk away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spillra 135 Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) As many pointed out in the last topic, it comes down to feel and what you prefer. (which you apparently ignored) This game is old and a lot of people started out playing the game in 4:3 and they want to keep that since it feels more natural to them. Other use it to change the feel of the game (running speed and distance). most "advantages" from 4:3 are placebo or they play better since the know the res. Unless you're using the no-recoil res. then you're just hacking :)) Edited April 15, 2019 by I3ox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frosi 720 Posted April 15, 2019 17 hours ago, vfterlife said: Players: If this does not give an advantage: then tell me why so many players use it, possessing even good computers Because a lot of the better players tend to play shooters for more than just a few years and likely started somewhere in CS 1.6 or CSS? Whether you want to play 4:3 or 16:9 comes down to personal preference and for some people is just down to what they are used to. Not to mention that APB just feels better in terms of frame latency/fps on a lower resolution. As for why Fortnite banned 4:3 is pretty simple, a lot of streamers that tend to take the game semi-serious were being sarcastic about going into "Tryhard mode" and play 4:3 because that's what the cool kids are doing and like you said in your previous thread, 4:3 images may not be the most pleasant to look at from a viewers perspective so I'm assuming that Epic simply didn't like that the bigger broadcasters streamed their game in a 4:3 resolution which in return made the game look horrible. The thing is that Epic can allow themselves to piss off a few players and make them quit the game, while LO can not as the players are already dwindling with every month. (And no, the game picking up with a few thousand players after 3.5 is not an excuse to do it either) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiida 454 Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Remove shoulder switch too while you're at it. Edited April 15, 2019 by Kiida 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites