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  2. feels like "rallying" behind orbit is just the opposite end of the spectrum from those that suggest shutting down or selling apb, extremes generally aren't helpful either way - a bunch of yes men would be just as bad for apb as a bunch of naysayers
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  4. btw on this date(may 10th)3 years ago(2018)LO take over apb/gamers first officially.Despite the tough years they still fighting so admirations for the effort they put in our game https://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/news/2018/5/10/open-letter-to-the-apb-reloaded-community
  5. On Wednesday the weekly installment of the "LAPD Squad Meet Up" is being held and - as always - it is taking place in combination with the "Chipp's Car Club" (CCC) player event. The starting time for the "LAPD Squad Meet Up" is around 19:00 GMT*. We usually meet up at least an hour or two before CCC starts and do regular patrols together as well as custom high speed chases (depending on whether or not open world crime is going on). If you want to participate - on the cop or the criminal side - just let us know. The CCC player event does start at 21:00 GMT* and the location for this week should be the Waterfront Gold district. Please use either the CCC Discord LINK or the CCC APB Forum LINK for more details about the CCC event and the specifics about the district's event location. In line with the established tradition members of LAPD Squad will take care of traffic control during the street races after the CCC car show (where participants present their newest customisations). Any other enforcer or criminal interested in helping out - and thus doing something entirely different in game for a change - is welcomed to keep the traffic at bay with us. If you have time to attend, we hope to see you on the streets. In any case please stay safe out there and use all necessary precautions to stay healthy! --------- * Please make sure to take "Daylight Saving Time" (DST) into account in regard to the starting times for both the "LAPD Squad Meet Up" (19:00 GMT) as well as "Chipp's Car Club" (21:00 GMT) in case you hail from a country not using DST!
  6. I would consider this sentence here the key part in all of this. The best treatment we could have hoped for from GamersFirst before Little Orbit was the cold shoulder - and that was if they didn't opt for radio silence altogether instead. Though obviously things are far from perfect right now, I would take the current state of things over pre-LO G1 any day of the week.
  7. I’m aware we agree to it, but it’s completely stupid and could be easily exploited by support. And I’m the original owner of the account. If my account was stolen, I wouldn’t even be able to log into it to get that message. They would’ve changed the password. Or, they got the credentials to the account and just tried to sell it.
  8. They try to keep developin this game thats the most important thing.I cant imagine other small company(or big)to keep doing that for this old half dead game..
  9. You can drift by using the spacebar (handbrake) and holding A or D. The cars auto-drift. It takes some getting used to, I like it though.
  10. I don't want to be dismissive but nothing you've said is constructive so here goes. Just quit. Quit the game entirely, stop using the forums and go find something else you enjoy. There's no reason why LO should shut the game down after all the progress they've made towards fixing issues made by other companies. Nobody had to take on that burden you know. And good luck finding a game which isn't subject to the same problems you've listed here. Every PC game has problems with cheaters, trolls and people who throw matches to derank. That or smurfing. You're going to be hard-pressed to find something that isn't, but you should at least spare us all the headache of hearing you complain about a game many people still enjoy and want to support.
  11. Little Orbit has taken on the impossible task of keeping this game alive after mismanagement from previous companies. Now when I played periodically GamersFirst were in charge. Things then were relatively smooth (for me gameplay wise) and the game was quite early in its stages. I had some fun in the game. Seeing the issues cropping up over time is disappointing but LO aren't the causes of many of them. They've made some really good changes: -Streamlining the JT system as a secondary form of currency, which can be used to obtain high-level gear with little effort. -Removing the lootbox system, instead allowing you to buy JT at cost and earn rewards for using the Armas Marketplace. -Giving us all free Premium during the pandemic. This makes the game much fairer for the little man as you can buy good modifications from the marketplace and vehicles. It's no longer a slog. -Weapon balances, a bit of a poison chalice in most games. While the NTEC still dominates the in-game meta, other weapons have been given a chance and very few of the stock weapons outperform one another. The few stocks which are useless aren't much worse. -Regular updates from the CEO himself. Name any other game with this level of correspondence on what is going on behind the scenes and the efforts made to upgrade the engine. -Percussion grenades. Nuff said. Yes there are hackers. Yes there are macro users, triggerbots and dethreaters but there's a much better level of camaraderie which I've not seen on many other games I play. Yes, I do complain too about the things I'm upset about but I love this game. We should rally behind LO because chances are we wouldn't have gotten any of this kind of treatment from the previous owners.
  12. Fights in this game are all about positioning, and knowing your weapons comfort zone. This pays for any weapon including OSMAW and OPGL. Just like you wont fight with OCA vs HVR in HVRs comfortable zone while its user is good positioned, you gotta play vs OPGL outside its comfortable zone. Crying about explosives just exposes how uneffectively you played so far, cuz 90% of the success in the fights comes from positioning and working within your weapons comfortable zone, or outside opps weapons comfortable zone. Enough of crying on this forum already. Who tf even dislikes rocket launchers?! Its dope af to have something like this in APB! Go play CS. "Bunny hopping". Yo poor patootie dont even know what real bunny hopping means ffs.
  13. Just as a reminder, but you accept that they can do anything with your account when you create it, you cannot create an account without accepting the Eula/TOS/COC This here is probably your only chance. Otherwise, you could totally be someone that bought the account and claiming you don't have the email adress even though it works fine, but just isn't owned by you... which, is something that happens a lot with people that use second hand accounts.
  14. Thx for bringing actual good points to the discussion. And I agree with a lot of what you say. Yea, I agree. But to me a shutdown would be like, a new start. That maybe a forced break + a forced name change may just prevent some toxic behaviors. The last friend I had who played this game gave up. Why? Because people would target him and harass him. Or he would see someone and talk about how he/she is a known cheat on twitch. Once again I agree. I currently feel like the weapons in this game are generally unenjoyable. Either you play guns that require not thinking or muscle memory training (oca and pmg) or get frusterated trying to play other guns that aren't the NTEC or Obeya. I know my frustration comes from how long missions can be then get no XP at the end of them. Now this I can't really agree with. If anything the intial player would probably just see what APB does best (customization in a cops and robbers theme) then hop aboard. I'll use myself as an example. Back in ~2015 when I saw apb. I was like. WOW! How did I miss this? This looks awesome! Played it and never once thought of looking up Real Time worlds and all the other downfalls of this game. It wasn't until 2017 (when I returned) that I delved into history of the game. Also LO could simply instead of saying (Shutting down 1.2) Say something like "Suspending logins until 2.1" Sure, they are still shutting down the game until the new update. But at least it's sugar coated. A contract would make more sense than trying to monthly pay. So this would be an excellent reason to not shut down the game (from a company standpoint). While im not sure about other people. Sometimes taking a long break from something, then coming back brings back that fun factor.
  15. While it is possible LO is lying, monetary-value is a good indicator of deeds. I wouldn't call them Liars for supplying EVERYONE with free-premium for months in succession. I'd simply say those involved in Game Balance (some of course, not all, especially those who have the power to approve/deny changes) aren't fit for the job & should be moved into another role/department, regardless of their rank, because they are a persistent root cause to the demise of this game (whenever that will be). Of course, it is good that you don't belong to those who do nothing but laugh at a game's failure (because they are failures themselves who have nothing better to do), but this isn't exactly personal. This is about New People who would read Blogs that talk about APB's History and its 'latest shutdown by LO' then go: "Yeah... A game that had this much budget & potential... established by the Creator of GTA.. shut down AGAIN like that? This is a game I won't bother getting into". This is one kind of loss LO can avoid by keeping the game up. Perhaps LO pre-paid the servers to slightly discount the total costs, so keeping the servers up for months before the New Engine could ultimately cost the same as establishing a new contract with better servers after shutting down the game? There are too many renting plans & whether or not LO should shutdown or not can not be well-discussed without such information (yes, this is about money because it is a business in the end). However, this scenario is very much possible. Yes, the community is terrible but shutting & re-establishing servers won't fix that. If those Toxics are in need of a break, they will simply revert to their former selves once servers are back up. Yes, but you know that won't fix the community. The state of the game affects the community & contributed to it being down to this state. If the game gets properly balanced then more people would bother to play/exist, then the percentage of toxics would naturally go down. Furthermore, as incorrect and immoral as it is, there are a lot of people who 'try to send a message' through acting like Scum (simply because they don't know better). [So LO wants us to OCA 'Whisper', car-play and Med Spray? Fine, we'll play like that 24/7. If we lose, we grief & attempt to tbag. We'll do that till people leave, we'll also DDoS servers]. Just re-instate/yeet those who can't balance the game (especially the one(s) who doubled Med Spray), game-balance is as important as the New Engine itself if not more. There is no denying that most people would go like 'yeah... better visuals, same old nonsense' and just leave or be toxic again. This alone would help make APB more habitable.
  16. That’s correct, but that’s really f*cking stupid. A support staff could have had something against me from their in game account, and ban me for some random reason. Not saying that’s what happened, but it could be a possibility. And there’s nothing I could do about it. That seems like a conflict of interest in my opinion. I just want my damn account back. Spent too much money and time. If I can’t get the account back, at the very least, have them look into it more or allow me to provide proof that suits their needs that I didn’t try and sell this account. Or, get the asshat that doxed me twice gone from the game for good because that’s against the law, not their EULA.
  17. eulas can and have been legally binding, apparently it depends on the court and the eula orbit's eula states that orbit can do pretty much anything to your account at their sole discretion
  18. I know a good approximation of all my details, and I have access to my original account. But the email is blocked. Everyone but technically the CEO/Legal team are binded to any legal documents. Support staff are the ones that hand out the bans from my understanding. And Support Staff users aren't apart of a legal team. It is indeed against EULA, but you make a good point. This is a FTP game. Correct. And to not even provide proof for reason of termination for something that would be useless to enforce. Staff agreed to legal documents just like everyone else. They are binded to it as well.
  19. If you know the exact date, email, and the last good IP address you signed in with, support might be able to get it back. The problem is it will look the same on LO's end if the account was stolen or sold. LO don't enforce their EULA, and technically they're not legally binding for the end user. Technically, trading your account should not get that account suspended. The US government can't even enforce consumer rights, like how it's illegal to deny warranties on products without proving the end user caused it to break. They're not going to spend money on a free to play game to get someone's account back.
  20. i'd point to the month long support response times in that case, but ultimately it just means the ball was dropped pretty hard the eula and tos are legally binding sure, but that in no way means orbit is required to enforce the terms like the players are required to follow them
  21. Not much of a temp ban seeing as they were back in game the next day. Companies are legally required (at least in the United States) to abide by their own EULA. It's a legal contract. We agree to it when we sign up, and they have the power to take down any account against EULA. GMs even agree to an NDA when becoming a team member. Just because they're higher up in the chain doesn't mean they can "look the other way".
  22. idk what any of this has to do with money but the eula and tos explicitly don't go both ways - the user has to obey all the rules but the provider doesn't, nor are they even required to enforce those rules sure does suck that someone seems to have gotten away with that, i can only put forward that the month long support times from a year ago and possible temp bans might have made it look like nothing happened?
  23. Even if I had access to my email, it wouldn't matter. The email is blocked. It was only mentioned to give a scenario of a compromised account.
  24. How does one simple lost access to email? That’s already your fault
  25. See, what's ironic about it is, I reported a user with full chat logs for DOXing me. Name, age, address, the whole shebang. God knows how they got it, but said it in a full district server. Never gave me a status update and the user was never banned. They did it again. Nothing happened to them. Then I leave for a year and come back to a suspended account with no proof of claims. Tell me that isn't strange. Allow me to quote their own EULA. (d) is seeking to access another person's personal information or information relating to another GamersFirst Account; (Self explanitory) 1. Harass, threaten or embarrass another Player of the Services or to cause distress, unwanted attention or discomfort of such Player, or any other person or entity. Any form of personal attack upon a player by another player is strictly prohibited. APB Reloaded does not condone harassment in any form and may suspend or terminate the account of any Player who harasses others. Personal attacks, such as those based on a person's race, national origin, ethnicity, religion, gender, lifestyle choice, disablement or other such affiliation, are strictly prohibited. (Mentioned my suicidal issues, personal attack) Which if you're thick, is against their own EULA and Rules of Conduct, not to mention illegal in pretty much most countries. Nothing happened to them after they did it twice. An EULA and T&C are legally binding contracts, just to remind you. EDIT: 15.2.3 GamersFirst and/or Little Orbit may, without notice to you, disclose your IP address(es), personal information, communications, and other information about you and your activities to third parties if such disclosure is required by law (or GamersFirst and/or Little Orbit reasonably considers that such disclosure is required by law) or required to enforce the End User License Agreement. (They couldn't provide any sort of proof of my suspension, and could not give proof because "It involves other users." Well sh*t, if it's my ban in one area, and my personally identifiable f*cking information in the other, I sure as h*ll deserve the right to know these things seeing as you are allowed to disclose all of this. It isn't like I requested their full name, or DOB. Only requested a username).
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