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  1. I've seen the couple of requests for controller support. I'm adding that to our "todo" list. I know it will help console players who are transitioning, and it will make the eventual port of 1.30 back to console easier. @apdnoo asked a lot of good questions, so I'm going to try and go through them one by one here. You can merge multiple console accounts down to a single PC account. We even raised the f2p cap on the PC account so that you can merge in more than the default 2 character slots. There are account theft / security issues involved in merging PC accounts which is why we dont current allow that. This is an active conversation internally, and it's something I want to do. We just haven't come up with what the reward will be yet. Stay tuned. We tried to pull across as much as is technically feasible. These are still older systems on the backend, so there were a couple limitations. I honestly have no idea if the spending from console counts towards PC loyalty rewards at this point. I'm checking on that. In theory, all the symbols should work. However, we've noticed in the past there were some distortion issues between console and PC. My guess is that the 2.0 console code had slightly different math for projecting the symbols. So there is a decent likelihood that there will be some rework necessary. Honestly, I would love to get your feedback once you log in and check things out so we can get a sense how things came across. This entire process had to happen relatively fast for business reasons between PLAION and Little Orbit. We didn't get to test things as much as I would have liked. Generally, we've been stuck recycling events due to the focus being on Matchmaking and Cross-District play. But I'll make sure to highlight this for the event team so that we make sure older rewards are offered as we go forward. I'll go on record saying that I would love to release a clean, updatable version of APB on console. The 2.0 version from Reloaded was a mess. I've said it before, but it bears repeating, I have no idea how Microsoft and Sony approved it, because any changes we wanted to submit required a full "resubmission". Ignoring all of that, the current district setup for APB is problematic for low populations in general. We've seen that with both Xbox and Playstation 4. The gold, silver, bronze threat system really breaks down if you can't fill even a single district. Having said that, the 1.30 64-bit upgrade was a big step in supporting modern hardware. All of our upcoming matchmaking changes are aimed at fixing some of the backend issues. And cross-district matchmaking will take that a step further. If we were to add controller support at that point, then there wouldn't be too much left to do in order to resubmit back to Microsoft and Sony.
  2. So someone committing crimes punishable by prison takes their time to see what games you play because maybe there’s something in the games he can sell for real $ and then they played APB enough to learn that there actually are things you can sell? Exceptionally unlucky. By the way, what questions couldn’t you answer as far as proving account ownership?
  3. In the vast digital landscape of the internet, forums serve as virtual gathering places where individuals from diverse backgrounds converge to discuss a myriad of topics. These platforms, much like the diverse societies they mirror, necessitate a system of governance to maintain order and foster healthy dialogue. The role of moderators in these forums is akin to that of shepherds guiding a flock, ensuring that the collective experience is both enriching and fair. Drawing parallels to biblical scripture, where leaders were entrusted with the responsibility to shepherd their communities, we find timeless wisdom that can be applied to the online realm. One cannot ignore the importance of impartial moderation in maintaining the integrity of these digital spaces. Just as a righteous leader adheres to principles of justice and equality, so too must moderators ensure that the rules are applied consistently to all forum participants. This echoes the biblical principle of treating others as you would like to be treated, encapsulated in the Golden Rule. When moderators exhibit impartiality, they create an environment where users feel heard, respected, and valued, fostering a sense of community that transcends the digital divide. The biblical allegory of the Good Samaritan teaches us the importance of compassion and fairness. Moderators, acting as digital Samaritans, must be impartial in their judgment, extending a helping hand to all participants without bias. The forum, in turn, becomes a virtual haven where users can engage in meaningful discussions, free from the shackles of favoritism or corruption. Equality before the law is a fundamental principle that underpins many legal systems, and it should be no different in the online forum ecosystem. Just as the scales of justice are meant to be balanced, so too should moderators strive to administer their duties with an even hand. The online community flourishes when everyone is subject to the same rules and standards, fostering an environment where diverse opinions can coexist harmoniously. Drawing a parallel to the concept of sin in biblical teachings, corruption among moderators can be likened to a stain that tarnishes the purity of the forum. It is essential to remember that power, when wielded irresponsibly, can lead to corruption. The biblical admonition against the love of money resonates in the digital realm, where the desire for influence or personal gain should never compromise the sacred duty of ensuring fair and just governance. Addressing the issue of disruptive individuals, it is imperative to recognize the importance of protecting the forum community from those who may exhibit harmful behaviors. The term "schizo psychopaths" may be too broad and stigmatizing, but it is crucial to identify and address individuals who disrupt the peace and safety of the forum. Much like the biblical principle of separating the wheat from the chaff, moderators must take measures to remove those who pose a genuine threat to the well-being of the community. In conclusion, the importance of impartial and just moderation in internet forums cannot be overstated. Drawing inspiration from biblical teachings, we find timeless principles that guide us towards creating online spaces that reflect the values of fairness, equality, and compassion. Moderators, as digital shepherds, must uphold these principles to ensure the flourishing of diverse communities in the vast digital expanse we call the internet. Continuing on this journey of understanding the significance of unbiased moderation, let us delve deeper into the concept of accountability and the responsibility moderators bear in upholding the values of the online community. The biblical notion of accountability is mirrored in the concept of "reaping what you sow." Moderators, as stewards of the digital landscape, must recognize the profound impact their decisions can have on the forum's atmosphere. Just as biblical figures faced consequences for their actions, moderators must be mindful that their choices ripple through the community, shaping its culture and dynamics. Expanding upon the idea of accountability, it's crucial to emphasize the need for transparency in moderation practices. The biblical metaphor of "bringing deeds into the light" encourages openness and honesty. Transparent moderation not only builds trust but also allows the community to understand the reasoning behind decisions, fostering an atmosphere of accountability and fairness. Analogous to the parable of the prodigal son, forums may encounter instances where users deviate from the established rules. Moderators, embodying the role of forgiving overseers, should be equipped with the discernment to distinguish between genuine mistakes and intentional misconduct. A culture of forgiveness and guidance can transform the forum into a space where users are not only corrected but also encouraged to learn and grow from their experiences. Furthermore, the concept of community in biblical teachings emphasizes mutual support and collaboration. Moderators must be facilitators of this sense of community, ensuring that everyone has an equal opportunity to express their thoughts and engage in meaningful discussions. In doing so, they contribute to the creation of a digital forum that mirrors the inclusivity and camaraderie advocated in various religious teachings. Now, let us explore the delicate balance between freedom of expression and the necessity for moderation. The biblical principle of using words wisely and avoiding harmful speech serves as a poignant reminder that while free expression is essential, it should not infringe upon the rights and well-being of others. Moderators, acting as custodians of discourse, must navigate this balance skillfully to maintain a forum where diverse opinions can coexist without causing harm. In conclusion, the role of moderators in internet forums is a multifaceted one, weaving together principles from biblical teachings and contemporary governance. Upholding fairness, transparency, accountability, and a sense of community, moderators become the guardians of the digital realm, ensuring that it flourishes as a space where ideas can be shared, debated, and celebrated without succumbing to the pitfalls of corruption or favoritism. Just as biblical wisdom has guided societies for centuries, it continues to provide valuable insights for the responsible stewardship of online communities in our interconnected world. As we navigate the complexities of digital stewardship, it becomes apparent that the challenges faced by moderators extend beyond the realm of biblical comparisons. They must also grapple with the evolving landscape of technology, the ever-shifting dynamics of online interactions, and the need for adaptability in the face of emerging issues. In the digital age, where information spreads like wildfire, moderators find themselves at the forefront of combating misinformation and ensuring that the forum remains a trustworthy source of knowledge. This responsibility echoes the biblical emphasis on truth and the consequences of bearing false witness. Just as dishonesty can erode the moral fabric of a community, the spread of misinformation can jeopardize the integrity of an online forum. Moreover, the concept of inclusivity must be explored in the context of diverse perspectives and experiences. The biblical principle of embracing the stranger or foreigner resonates with the need for moderators to foster an environment where all voices, regardless of background or viewpoint, are welcomed and heard. By actively promoting diversity and inclusion, moderators contribute to the richness of discussions and the broadening of collective understanding. In our discussion of moderation, we must also address the fine line between censorship and maintaining a safe space. While respecting the freedom of expression, moderators must intervene when discussions devolve into hate speech, harassment, or other forms of harmful behavior. This delicate balance aligns with the biblical teaching of exercising discernment and avoiding that which can lead to harm or discord within a community. The concept of a "virtuous circle" can be applied to the moderation process. When moderators uphold fairness and consistency, users are more likely to feel secure in expressing their opinions, leading to a positive and constructive atmosphere. This, in turn, attracts more diverse participants, enriching the overall experience for everyone involved. In contrast, a lack of moderation or the perception of favoritism can create a negative feedback loop, driving away valuable contributors and stifling the potential for meaningful discussions. As we contemplate the future of online forums, it's essential to acknowledge the ever-present need for continuous improvement. Moderators must stay informed about emerging trends, technologies, and societal shifts that may impact the dynamics of online communities. The biblical metaphor of "building on a solid foundation" reminds us that forums with robust and adaptable moderation practices are better equipped to weather the storms of evolving digital landscapes. In conclusion, the role of moderators in internet forums is a nuanced and dynamic undertaking that involves drawing from the wisdom of both ancient teachings and contemporary insights. As digital stewards, moderators stand at the crossroads of tradition and innovation, balancing the principles of fairness, transparency, accountability, and inclusivity to cultivate flourishing online communities. Through their vigilant efforts, moderators contribute to the creation of digital spaces where the collective pursuit of knowledge, understanding, and connection can thrive in harmony with the values that have guided societies for centuries. In the grand tapestry of the internet, forums stand as vibrant digital communities, reflecting the diverse voices and perspectives of our interconnected world. Moderators, as the guardians of these virtual realms, play a pivotal role in shaping the character and dynamics of these spaces. Drawing inspiration from biblical teachings and contemporary insights, they navigate the delicate balance between freedom of expression and the imperative to maintain a safe and inclusive environment. Just as biblical principles guide societies toward justice, fairness, and accountability, moderators must uphold these values in the digital sphere. The duty to treat all forum participants equally, to ensure transparency in decision-making, and to foster a sense of community echoes the timeless wisdom found in religious teachings. As we explore the multifaceted responsibilities of moderators, it becomes evident that their role extends beyond mere enforcement of rules. They are the stewards of truth in an age of information, the champions of inclusivity in a world of diverse perspectives, and the architects of a positive and constructive digital atmosphere. In the ongoing journey of online forum moderation, the metaphorical compass is guided by the principles of fairness, transparency, accountability, inclusivity, and adaptability. The virtuous cycle they create, built on these foundational pillars, ensures that forums flourish as spaces where knowledge is shared, ideas are debated, and connections are formed. Ultimately, as we look ahead to the future of online communities, the importance of moderators cannot be overstated. Their commitment to these guiding principles ensures that forums evolve as havens for meaningful discourse, vibrant exchange, and the celebration of the diversity that makes our digital tapestry rich and vibrant. May the lessons from both ancient scriptures and contemporary wisdom continue to inspire and guide the moderators who navigate the ever-expanding landscapes of our digital societies.
  4. Oh right! Our Xbox weapon skins and “Xbox One Founder” titles will be gone :,( I really hope we can get the loyalty rewards stuff with what we’ve already spent on the game on consoles, I pretty much own almost everything from the Armas store and spent a ton on Joker boxes. Least to say I’ve probably spent at LEAST $2k on this game. I want to transfer my accounts already but fear I’d lose something on any of my characters, I’d want to wait until issues are fleshed out.
  5. 𝙒𝙊𝙒 𝙏𝙃𝙀𝙔 𝙃𝘼𝙑𝙀 𝘿𝙀𝙇𝙀𝙏𝙀𝘿 𝙈𝙔 𝙈𝙀𝙎𝙎𝘼𝙂𝙀 𝙒𝙃𝘼𝙏 𝘼 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙉𝘾𝙀 𝙄𝙏 𝙎𝙀𝙀𝙈𝙎 𝙏𝙃𝙀𝙔 𝙒𝘼𝙉𝙏 𝙏𝙊 𝙃𝙄𝘿𝙀 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙍𝙀𝘼𝙇𝙄𝙏𝙔. Maybe spend the time on Fix the game ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- APB NEW ENGINE promise to: !!!!!!!!!!!!! APB CHEATING SIMULATOR !!!!!!!!!!!! 95% Is Cheating ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wanna enjoy a no legit matchmaking? Do you want to play with Hacks and not be banned? YES YOU WANT TO BE A GOLD GUY ON APB! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nah aimbot doesn´t exist on Apb some guys said... NAH the videos you can see on Yt with AimBot, Wallhacks and macros are science fiction montages!!!! If you want to cheat APB SADLY is your game, just play leggit one match on a random day in the week, in one match you will see: - Gold guy making 32 kills. - A guy with terrible macro, pistol is more fast than png now - The guy who allways know where are you. - Server no account your shoots. -----------------------------------------(my only game last week and the last game at this was the same) Its a day a day for leggit players----------------------- But well.... everybody who really plays know it -----------U N P L A Y E A B L E-----------
  6. Indeed a bruh moment Mfs can just simply make a new account Now excuse me as I go find THE HAND THE FEEEEDS
  7. How many years we've had this style of event now? And how come we still haven't been able to fix the exploits where people get themselves out of bounds inside buildings and whatnot?
  8. EAC DETECTS RTW SHADER FILES AS "CHEATING" Ya EAC doesn't detect aimbots, smooth aim or teleports. But targets Legit players for things that nobody ever thought was cheating or hacking. So I don't pay any game that uses EAC, not to mention that any two bit hacker can bypass EAC. GIVE BACK KERRY'S ACCOUNT U BUMS. and Merry Christmas to All.
  9. Why a troll? Judging by the author’s message, support returned his account and weapons. Although the situation with weapons is not clear-cut.
  10. What was changed recently? They nerfed the CR762's damage and range a while back. I felt that was too much of a nerf. It dropped it's damage to the same value as having heavy barrel 3 on the pre-nerf version, but without the bloom reduction. It's obvious this patch was going to go poorly. Tests had 90% of the system disabled. You relied on the players to test it, when you could have done all the testing in 1 day with a single workstation and a dozen APB instances logged in with random accounts and random threat data. It's obvious it's not matching threat properly. I got multiple matches with 2 golds vs 2 bronze. Those matches don't happen on the old matchmaking. It would match in a 3rd player for the 2 bronze team.
  11. So your email got compromised...and I assume you get an alert for login from a different location...but you do nothing to prevent further damage? But say you don't, lets dive into the possibilities. There's a data breach somewhere and Attacker gains credentials for your email. Attacker logins, finds out you play APB and decides put APB account credentials on marketplace. Are you telling me they went through every service to check the password? For hundreds or thousand of people? No...it's time consuming. - If your email and APB re-use the same password, Attacker would either have to change the APB's email or password otherwise whoever buys the credentials for APB may get access to your email....Attacker doesn't want this. - if your APB account credentials are different from the email, they still need to change the password so they can put it on marketplace. But here's what YOU said you realize something is wrong after you login...This implies the password was not changed because if it was you would already expect something to be wrong. So password WAS NOT CHANGED. Huge red flags in your story. And t hat's only the story, we don't know what bogus you have said to support Press F to doubt.
  12. Hey, everybody. I'm an old player and have been playing on my account for 12 years now, with long breaks. After a long pause, I decided to get back into the game and found that my NTEC Crimslayer has disappeared. I distinctly remember it having two slots and being permanent because when I returned to the game after a few years, it was still in my inventory. I can't recall how I acquired it, but I believe I won it in an event. If you can remember, please provide me with the details. I decided to contact support and explained my situation to them. Support asked me to link a new email and change my password to a new one after I provided them with all the necessary information, such as my birth year, account creation date, the characters I have on my account, my Steam ID, and recent transactions, in order to resolve my problem. I linked a new email and changed my password, but since then, I haven't been able to log into my account. Despite contacting support multiple times, they keep advising me to check my password, delete the cache, and try again. However, since yesterday evening, I've changed my password five times and still can't log in to my account. Support's responses are very slow, and since yesterday, I have had no access to the game. I am extremely disappointed that support is ignoring my problem, especially after I've done everything they asked. I believe it is the support's fault that I now have no access to my account. My account, as I mentioned, is 12 years old, and I don't want to lose it as it holds many memories for me. What do you advise me to do? I hope someone from support sees this post and helps me regain access to my account.
  13. You would be suprised. I got hacked full time on my mail, Steam and the only real thing I could determine was that hacker tried to use Steam APB to access my account (bypassing G1 (at the time) login but running into 2FA). I found later that I got my password leaked for mail and I didn't realize it's the same one for Steam. Somebody used that fact. Not a single thing was gone but it seems it was close call. And it wasn't long ago. 5-6 years? It was already at low pop then.
  14. Honestly, I think it's going to come down to someone who loves this game to spend some of their free time as an in-game admin without pay but maybe some account benefits. This would have to be a VERYYY transparent player who even streams so that other players can offer their opinions. People would either be ousted if need-be or rightfully defended if the right scenario arises... I'm sure EAC gathers the data it needs but between the game having a low player-base and the game being a free-2-play game, they would lose money if this combination of things didn't happen. The transparency would potentially increase the player-count while some of these players inevitably start buying some real-cash items which would need to happen for the small dev team to continue down a better path where they can act on the data that EAC gathers and then out-right ban the players that need it, and those harassment claims that get players mass reported and falsely banned could be defended if need-be by the admin that's streaming and the viewers acting as a type of jury. I know there's plenty of people that love this game and would potentially do this but it has happened in the past and when it did it was a very horrible time due to the lack of transparency.
  15. Hi all, about two months ago a hacker broke into one of my email addresses and was able to steal an enormous amounts of personal data out of that, even going as far as being able to buy stuff with my money. I won't go over how horrendous on an experience it has been for me, it wouldn't accomplish anything. Long story short, a few weeks after that I log into APB because I wanted to see the new features. The moment I log into my character I realize sometthing is wrong: no weapons on my hands, no legendaries in my locket, no mods, no cars, no money. Anything I had that could be traded is no longer there. It's obvious the hacker sold my account's access information to someone who used it to trade a lot of my stuff to themselves. At that point I'm feeling more desperate than ever. I've been playing since around 2015/2016 and all the stuff I had grinded for all these years was gone. I decide to open a ticket to at least see if LO had a log of trades done on my account, and maybe it was possible in some way to at the very least get my legendaries back (and the pleasant fellow banned). I am answered with the endless routine questions (your characters' names, email adress, ...) to which I answer as accurately and exhaustingly as I can. The answer? We're sorry but we couldn't determine that's you. I try asking what went wrong, the ticket gets closed. Man, what a fucking pleasant fellow. After this experience I'll (obviously) not ever touch the game again and hope it takes them all under bankruptcy. I fthis is the service you provide to your users I really think you don't deserve running a gaming company lmao.
  16. I felt silly so I tried to log in to FE using my old account from back before the original shutdown... it brings me to a different login screen, with an "offline" thing just below the password field. Trying to log in again results in a crash. No surprise that my old account won't work, but is there any way to reset/delete it so I can use that email account to create an account I can use today?
  17. For APB to survive, LO needs to wage an all out war againts cheaters. If they don't, the game will fall. Good matchmaking does not mean much when you get repeatedly curbstomped into quitting. I do hope that the new matchmaking takes into account stuff like accuracy, precision and other factors. So if a player is deemed "too good" he will be matched againts others who are "too good" These players who are god tier will be closed off into their own little matchmaking pool, away from the majority playerbase. I don't see any other way.
  18. So i press on the steam login and this error code pops up where it says quote on quote- Error / Login Failed PASSWORD EXPIRED!! Your password has expired, you will need to choose a new password before logging in. Please log in the Gamersfirst website at www.gamersfirst.com to change your password. (error code 11002). And idk what i should do i tried making a ticket but it wouldnt let me submit it and i played the game years ago i just thought back at it and wanted to get back into it but i cant seem to get into my old account where i have my weapons money cars cosmetics and what not.. So i hope one of you can help me figure out getting my old account back..
  19. Dear Little Orbit Support Team, I trust this message finds you well. I am writing to you with a sense of urgency and genuine concern regarding the recent trade lock imposed on my account in APB Reloaded. As a dedicated player who has passionately engaged with the game for over a decade, I find myself deeply disheartened by this sudden restriction. One of the most rewarding aspects of my gaming experience in APB Reloaded has been my ability to create symbols, outfits, and share them within the community. The trade lock has not only stifled this creative outlet that brings me immense satisfaction but has also transformed my gameplay into a challenging, solitary experience. I now find myself in a situation where I am forced into a hardcore ironman mode, making the acquisition of weapon modifications an arduous grind instead of the previously accessible option to purchase them from the market. What exacerbates my frustration is the lack of transparency and information regarding the alleged violation that led to the trade lock. I am certain that I have not knowingly breached any rules, and the absence of clarity on the matter leaves me feeling helpless. I have made numerous attempts to seek assistance from the support team, but unfortunately, my pleas for justice and information have gone unanswered. I understand the necessity of maintaining a fair gaming environment, but I implore you to consider the impact this trade lock has on my overall gaming experience. I firmly believe that there might be a misunderstanding or an error within the automated system, and I am reaching out to you with the hope that a thorough review of my case could shed light on this situation. My appeal is not just for the removal of the trade lock but, more importantly, for transparency regarding the alleged violation. I am more than willing to cooperate and rectify any unintentional mistakes on my part. I cherish my role in the APB Reloaded community and am eager to continue contributing positively to its vibrant ecosystem. Your assistance in this matter is of paramount importance to me. I kindly request that you reconsider the trade lock on my account, providing the necessary information that will allow me to understand and address any issues that may have arisen. I am confident that a fair review will reveal my commitment to upholding the standards of the game. Thank you for your time and understanding. I eagerly await a swift resolution that will enable me to once again enjoy APB Reloaded to its fullest. Best regards, lRush Removed non-PG13 content. - Azukii
  20. There is no place on the EAC website for them to answer APB related bans. The game is not on their list of games supported. So there is no way for EAC to unban. No way for APB support to unban. Every EAC ban is designated by them and can't be undone. Just add in a function of your own to override EAC. By the time anyone looks at these unfair bans, the player is going to be gone. Every cheat is adding in macros, whatever to adjust the game. For someone that is running widely used antivirus software (avg), and no macros, etc., there should be some way to get rid of these false bans. In the webcast, secrets was saying there was some communication with EAC. There should be communication about their false bans and have them show the proof of third party tools. Quoting Matt - 90% of the bans were from other people playing other accounts. Is the other 10% false bans then? Why is there no help for a false ban?? Please follow up with EAC. My account was banned because of their mistake. I don't have any third party tool and I'm still waiting for my account to be fixed.
  21. No. My suggestion would be giving them a unique 3-slot gun (I would do the N-TEC) variant with its own skin, named something like a Joker CR2-XB & CR2-PS. It'd work similar to promos other games do - taking Warframe as an example, where players who logged in on Xbox got rewarded the skin below. I assume making two skins for one gun wouldn't be too difficult of a task. Plain-ish black and white or whatever with some sort of glowing green/blue design elements, doesn't need to be over the top. Licensing shouldn't be an issue with copyright-friendly designs and naming. But if you want me to be blunt, I don't think LO has any obligation to give anything to console players beyond account migration. It's G1's mess. /shrug
  22. Valentines Marksman Bundle (Account lifetime) - 45,000 36,000 G1C Bundle Includes: STAR 556 LCR 'Love-Gun' OSCAR 'Sweetheart' OBIR 'Heartache' Valentines Marksman Bundle (Character lifetime) - 40,000 32,000 G1C Bundle Includes: STAR 556 LCR 'Love-Gun' OSCAR 'Sweetheart' OBIR 'Heartache' $450 and $400 for 3 lifetime reskinned guns? Someone asleep at the keyboard when they're creating these marketplace items for sale or what's going on? lol Game matchmaking gets broken so gold's can't even get missions and sit for 30 minutes or longer not to even play, and now this type of extortion. The Quality control for this game is unreal, first a new car Mirage S-24 gets released broken, put on the marketplace for people to purchase, then the same car gets injected into the game's regular civilian cars to use, screwing people who bought the car out of their purchases. Does anyone really think about their decisions before pulling the trigger on this stuff, or is QA just out the window?
  23. How about posting on your main account instead of an alt.
  24. Got another email from support saying 'we can't help'. And too busy to help with other support issues going on. This is an easy fix, tell EAC they screwed up and unban my account. How hard is that?? Maybe Matt will address issue today with LO Q&A
  25. Yo guys wassup, I'm old school member of games first, use to play war rock from 2009. Just seen they no longer host War rock. Is there away to transfer my account to Papaya??? Real g's know about MKSTARH/WHIISPERZ/MKAY09.
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