Clarification on nudity 2

[Ketog]

This topic seeks attention from @MattScott

 

So , i was playing APB today on citadel , in social district , when i went in game i noticed a GM Called "zeroexthirtynine" Asking a female character player to remove her top wich had realistic nipples drawn on it.

 

Seeing this i remembered about matt scott's topic about the clarification on nudity :

 

 

 

So at this point i told the GM "But we got a clear message from you guys stating that anything above the belt is fine"

 

then i got this as an answer (that in my opinion seemed more to be the GM's personal opinion than him reading the rules) :

 

 

i definetly knew that this GM was in the wrong from what i've read , but i guess i can do nothing because he's a GM and he decides the rules hm ?

 

So at this point  , i went myself do my own ressearch and found this in the "Clarification on Nudity" Thread  , more precisely on the blog post that you shared and liked @MattScott:

 

Here you guys state that genitalia is the limit ingame , and that above is accepted as long as it's not intended to offend anyone :

 

 

So there we go again , we're in a blurry spot ,  back to the same question , where is the limit ?:

 

Is this GM misinformed / misbehaving ? ,or  is there anything you didn't tell us ?

Rules are flexible yes , but that GM seemed to have overwritten the rule in a snap of a finger and give that player no choice, while he, the player, clearly wasn't in the wrong .

 

 

Edited June 11, 2019 by Ketog

[CookiePuss]

Imagine that, yet another GM unfamiliar with the rules.

... shocking

[BrandonBranderson]

This again?  Shouldn't GMs be up to date with everything Matt posts?

[vsb]

god not again

[CookiePuss]

Inb4 "they just misunderstood the question"

... again

[NotZombieBiscuit]

Nipples are fine. Genitals are not. Anything overly sexualised is not fine. That has been the policy for what, like 7 years now?

[CookiePuss]

Nearly 1,000 applicants and several months later... and this is the best we can do.

LO/10 job guys.

[Trivirium]

Jesus, a lot of people have been banned in the past from GMs who don't fully understand the TOS or general rules. Then when they're called out on it, they make the rules "bend" to their intended point. It's kinda crazy seeing this again. 

 

I really hope it was just a general misunderstanding and no action was taken.

[Fenton]

We live in that curious state that swings from hope to resignation.

[Kewlin]

Can we not? I'd prefer the policy not to change every five seconds.

[Zolerox]

The quest for Humanization aka "nipple Equality" will never end.

[CookiePuss]

Just now, Zolerox said:

The quest for Humanization aka "nipple Equality" will never end.

Swear to god, if they make @AsgerLund cover up those magnificent moobs... Im done.

[Aeronaut]

3 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Swear to god

leave his holiness out of these perky affairs

 

[Danimal]

Question is..why the fuck do you need to draw nipples on female tops anyways?

 

Pornhub has all your boobie needs.

 

Its like these tools WANT the  attention by walking the line of allowed or not.

 

If you cant show it in public....then it should not be allowed in game.

 

So dumb this issue.

[Xnetexe]

6 minutes ago, Danimal said:

If you cant show it in public....then it should not be allowed in game. 

Whether or not you can go nude in public depends on the location and purpose.

In the United States, some states allow nudity as long as it's provable that it's not for lewd purposes.

Nude beaches also exist, which are public.

[Kewlin]

20 minutes ago, Danimal said:

Question is..why the fuck do you need to draw nipples on female tops anyways?

 

Pornhub has all your boobie needs.

 

Its like these tools WANT the  attention by walking the line of allowed or not.

 

If you cant show it in public....then it should not be allowed in game.

 

So dumb this issue.

 

Why not though?

[Westford]

Apparently, the question of "nipple exposure" has already been answered by @MattScott

So, as far as GM-zeroxthirtynine, it comes down to a training issue, nothing more.

 

It might be helpful afterwards if LO were to instruct this uninformed GM to contact  the "female character" personally in game,

that they were incorrect in their communication to them concerning nipple display,

otherwise , those players on citadel, may never see this player's nipples again.

 

Personally, I really don't care.

The game is 18+

 

I have yet to see one nipple on Jericho, sad to say. 

 

 

[Eisena]

#freethepeanus

[Westford]

6 minutes ago, Eisena said:

#freethepeanus

peanus & vags must be contained for hygienical reasons.

 

But we still have thongs.

 

Edited October 26, 2018 by Westford

[AsgerLund]

2 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Swear to god, if they make @AsgerLund cover up those magnificent moobs... Im done.

My nips - my decision.

[Clandestine]

Bleh there are devs in other games that don't know their own game and are not ashamed to stream Q&A. Stop hating on volunteer GMs.

[CookiePuss]

3 minutes ago, Clandestine said:

Bleh there are devs in other games that don't know their own game and are not ashamed to stream Q&A. Stop hating on volunteer GMs.

Ahh the classic excuse for all things APB... "Its not the worst Ive heard of. "

[Westford]

44 minutes ago, Clandestine said:

Bleh there are devs in other games that don't know their own game and are not ashamed to stream Q&A. Stop hating on volunteer GMs.

Yes , we must allow GM's to run rampant, and make up rules of the game, as we go along.

THIS, would be the best play by far ...

 

Here..here..

 

[StrelitziaDeWitt]

6 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Swear to god, if they make @AsgerLund cover up those magnificent moobs... Im done.

I've tried but all the shirts I gave him snapped open and the shirt shot through the heavens above to be never seen again.

 

[Hexerin]

This is exactly why intelligent companies just lay down the simple "no nudity, period" rule. Anything else is just too open to interpretation, which causes the issues we see here.