Fenton 204 Posted May 18, 2019 Is it just me, or do people in the APB community have a really poor attitude to other people in the community? I've seen slurs directed against assumed race, gender, sexuality, virginity, mental capacity, place of origin and religion. Even if these don't offend me personally, I expect more of a supposed adult community and I have been continually disappointed. Is it worth asking Gamers First/Little Orbit to police the community? Should we all switch off our chat, close our eyes against the Nazi symbols and hum really loudly? Are we even capable of policing our own community and expecting better things of ourselves? Discuss. 10 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1291 Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) APB is a highly salt inducing game. A lot of people use that to their advantage and make people even saltier by behaving like overagressive children. //Edit: Not to mention that this game is now very old, and a lot of people think they're above the rest because they've been playing for a long time. Edited May 18, 2019 by GhosT edit 6 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glaciers 5929 Posted May 18, 2019 pvp with a (un)healthy dose of rng results in excessive salt, not really surprising imo 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recon_Puppy 43 Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Fenton said: Is it just me, or do people in the APB community have a really poor attitude to other people in the community? I've seen slurs directed against assumed race, gender, sexuality, virginity, mental capacity, place of origin and religion. Even if these don't offend me personally, I expect more of a supposed adult community and I have been continually disappointed. Is it worth asking Gamers First/Little Orbit to police the community? Should we all switch off our chat, close our eyes against the Nazi symbols and hum really loudly? Are we even capable of policing our own community and expecting better things of ourselves? Discuss. This is sadly more true than not. Thats why I'm taking steps to make sure forum posts with me in them keep a professional standing and remain unbiased, which is why I presume that no one responds to mine other than the upstanding Glaciers. There aren't enough people based around customer support in LO's reign, it needs to be improved and measures should be taken against the excessive toxicity just like with the Teamkilling in the game. Its not enough to report it, it should be monitored better. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_chain 176 Posted May 18, 2019 Ever played Rust? It is how it is, nothing you can do about it, really. Wait for the community to grow, no matter how much salt there is, it gets dissolved with enough water. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recon_Puppy 43 Posted May 18, 2019 1 minute ago, _chain said: Ever played Rust? It is how it is, nothing you can do about it, really. Wait for the community to grow, no matter how much salt there is, it gets dissolved with enough water. Well, sadly, APB is a Salt lake at this point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Dan- 413 Posted May 18, 2019 /ignore <insert player name> 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recon_Puppy 43 Posted May 18, 2019 Just now, -Dan- said: /ignore <insert player name> That doesn't exactly solve the overall toxicity, yeah it may block it from your view but its still there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Dan- 413 Posted May 18, 2019 Just now, Recon_Puppy said: That doesn't exactly solve the overall toxicity, yeah it may block it from your view but its still there. And where's the problem in that? If you see two people swearing at eachother do you call police on them ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recon_Puppy 43 Posted May 18, 2019 Just now, -Dan- said: And where's the problem in that? If you see two people swearing at eachother do you call police on them ? The problem with that is the overall toxicity is unattractive for new players, just because you ignore them doesn't mean everyone does and it still poses a problem for the new people wanting to test out the game. This isn't to say we have to ban them for toxicity, that'd be too much of an overreaction. However a chat timeout would be a good countermeasure to detected toxicity. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Dan- 413 Posted May 18, 2019 Just now, Recon_Puppy said: The problem with that is the overall toxicity is unattractive for new players, just because you ignore them doesn't mean everyone does and it still poses a problem for the new people wanting to test out the game. This isn't to say we have to ban them for toxicity, that'd be too much of an overreaction. However a chat timeout would be a good countermeasure to detected toxicity. At this point, I seriously doubt new players are put off by saltiness, but rather being stomped by dethreaters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recon_Puppy 43 Posted May 18, 2019 Just now, -Dan- said: At this point, I seriously doubt new players are put off by saltiness, but rather being stomped by dethreaters A lot of the things going on are putting off people, some people like having the challenge of veteran players fighting them. I know I did when I started playing, it was the only way for me to learn the game. I've become better because of it, but general toxicity in any game is unattractive and should be appropriately dealt with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lato 188 Posted May 18, 2019 Name me a pvp game with a polite and nice community Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alani 475 Posted May 18, 2019 this thread is just bait for some stupid argument to happen especially with mentions of certain things no one has ever made fun or or whatever lmao Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadliest 336 Posted May 18, 2019 words can never hurt you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnneArkey 3 Posted May 19, 2019 It is neither feasible nor worth asking Little Orbit to police it's players, as you have the tools and ability to either block, mute, or report behavior that you believe breaks the terms of service. Asking the company to moderate the players would require more employees than the business could sustain, considering the fact that these employees would be an increased labor drain, and asking them to develop a software solution may stoke the issue further, as there are people who like to find ways around filters and restrictions just to prove that they can. It may be best to learn how to co-exist and deal with players who find the behavior, speech, and symbols entertaining. You cannot control other people and their actions, only your own reactions to them. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilWonka 96 Posted May 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Fenton said: Is it just me, or do people in the APB community have a really poor attitude to other people in the community? I've seen slurs directed against assumed race, gender, sexuality, virginity, mental capacity, place of origin and religion. Even if these don't offend me personally, I expect more of a supposed adult community and I have been continually disappointed. Is it worth asking Gamers First/Little Orbit to police the community? Should we all switch off our chat, close our eyes against the Nazi symbols and hum really loudly? Are we even capable of policing our own community and expecting better things of ourselves? Discuss. A big problem is people caint tell the difference between trash talk and being toxic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recon_Puppy 43 Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Lato said: Name me a pvp game with a polite and nice community Battlefield 4. I've ran into nothing but respectful people on there. 1 hour ago, AnneArkey said: It is neither feasible nor worth asking Little Orbit to police it's players, as you have the tools and ability to either block, mute, or report behavior that you believe breaks the terms of service. Asking the company to moderate the players would require more employees than the business could sustain, considering the fact that these employees would be an increased labor drain, and asking them to develop a software solution may stoke the issue further, as there are people who like to find ways around filters and restrictions just to prove that they can. It may be best to learn how to co-exist and deal with players who find the behavior, speech, and symbols entertaining. You cannot control other people and their actions, only your own reactions to them. I'm not asking them to police it themselves, but they could set up a system to detect common toxic words or phrases and have it punish the player with a chat suspension, like what Overwatch does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted May 19, 2019 7 hours ago, -Dan- said: If you see two people swearing at eachother do you call police on them ? Sign language? Bird bird bird , bird is the word Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clandestine 390 Posted May 19, 2019 APB is pretty calm and civilized compared to DBD post game chat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenton 204 Posted May 19, 2019 10 hours ago, Alani said: this thread is just bait for some stupid argument to happen Not my intention, I assure you. 8 hours ago, Willy Wonka said: A big problem is people cant tell the difference between trash talk and being toxic. This is true. Being an international community as well, the line between the two can be pretty blurred as common insults in one place could be a deathly insult in another. Thank you for keeping the discussion civil thusfar. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eisena 86 Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) Living long enough to have become an adult has no influence whatsoever on how you behave in social situations. It's an inherent flaw in some people you simply can't erase. That being said, I greatly enjoy this community. If the people playing APB weren't the way they are like now I most likely wouldn't be here. Edited May 19, 2019 by Eisena Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5235 Posted May 19, 2019 I'm just glad some people think we still get new players. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Queen of Love 412 Posted May 19, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory An old post of a veteran (Sho.) explained it very well. The game has been a bit vandalized (G. Co.) And is hard restore the damage (OOB,N-bug,Threat Locking,Teamkick) Also with all effort possible (ty LO ) it still appears ruined. Solution: Clean and Fresh Air first. Add something funny after restore the good old APB. 1st thing to do : This: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cr0 328 Posted May 19, 2019 I think the rules that are already in place are good enough. Any more than that and we start closing in on the plague called political correctness. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites