Ketog Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) So this is a very crude video but we tried primary shotguns and did in my opinion the most important tests we should have done with them Heres the timestamps before you ask :0:00 Ogre 0:55 NFAS 1:28 DOW 2:05 Strife + tests 5:10 Trash longer range NFAS test. 5:33 Trash longer range NFAS test. 6:55 Longer range DOW test. 9:30 CSG range test. 12:53 Shredder range tests. So what i can conclude after this is that shotguns pretty much feel the same but got a steeper damage drop when they get out of their range , just like carabines do . Edited September 19, 2018 by Ketog 3 2
neophobia Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, (Xbox)MortisedGuide said: Rip console. take a look at the blogpost btt: did you also test how forgiving they are for bad aim? this was/is my biggest concern besides range, you didn't even have to hit enemies well and they still easily died 2
Darkzero3802 Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Im not suprised tbh. These re-balances have been based on a broken as hell hitreg that has only recently been fixed. NOW they should look into re-balancing everything if and only if the hitreg works properly. If it doesnt work you cant balance anything. 1
Rikard86 Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, neophobia said: take a look at the blogpost btt: did you also test how forgiving they are for bad aim? this was/is my biggest concern besides range, you didn't even have to hit enemies well and they still easily died they lowered the multiplier on consecutive pellets meaning you now have to land more to kill AND increased the TTK across all shotguns (DOW and NFAS excluded). on paper it works, however when I tried the JG on Test A it wasn't that much different, at least until 7m 1
Nitronik Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rikard86 said: they lowered the multiplier on consecutive pellets meaning you now have to land more to kill AND increased the TTK across all shotguns (DOW and NFAS excluded). on paper it works, however when I tried the JG on Test A it wasn't that much different, at least until 7m TTK nerf should make pump shotguns a lot less grating to go up against
TheFakestOfFakeGolds Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Overall, which shotguns seem to have been nerfed/buffed? I'll try to post my impressions here but feel free to correct me Ogre was surely unintentionally buffed, i remember it killing with 4 shots, same thing for NFAS (...? i havent used the normal nfas in a while...) From what i read Strife is a lot more usable now. Looks like range and spread both got improved No word on NFAS range test because as i said above i almost never use the normal N-FAS. Looks like Thumper wasn't changed at all I'm confused at the CSG... In the very first of the dev's post, i remember reading about the spread tightening, but also a fire rate decrease for extra range for CSG... TBH i don't see a reason to pick CSG up over JG or other shotguns... No words on shredder, never tried it. Help me for those weapons i had no word for please
Ketog Posted September 19, 2018 Author Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheFakestOfFakeGolds said: Overall, which shotguns seem to have been nerfed/buffed? I'll try to post my impressions here but feel free to correct me Ogre was surely unintentionally buffed, i remember it killing with 4 shots, same thing for NFAS (...? i havent used the normal nfas in a while...) From what i read Strife is a lot more usable now. Looks like range and spread both got improved No word on NFAS range test because as i said above i almost never use the normal N-FAS. Looks like Thumper wasn't changed at all I'm confused at the CSG... In the very first of the dev's post, i remember reading about the spread tightening, but also a fire rate decrease for extra range for CSG... TBH i don't see a reason to pick CSG up over JG or other shotguns... No words on shredder, never tried it. Help me for those weapons i had no word for please Pretty sure none of the NFAS have been 4 shots ever The old and never updated APB dB :http://apbdb.com/items/Weapon_Shotgun_NFAS-Ogre_PR2_ArmasJB/ The updated APB DB Maintained by Speed :http://apbdb.com/items/Weapon_Shotgun_NFAS-Ogre_PR2_ArmasJB/ And a recent video by Hei gaming clearly showing 3shots to kill : As for the change seen on the blog post , all of them are completely wrong , i mentioned that none of them made sense in the "mid september update" thread Edited September 19, 2018 by Ketog
MattScott Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Hi all, I have updated the changed Weapon and Improved Rifling changes in the latest blog to help with confusion. The stats are now a direct comparison between 1.19.7 and 1.19.6.https://apbreloaded.gamersfirst.com/2018/09/mid-september-update.html Thanks, Matt 2 4
Nitronik Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, MattScott said: Hi all, I have updated the changed Weapon and Improved Rifling changes in the latest blog to help with confusion. The stats are now a direct comparison between 1.19.7 and 1.19.6.https://apbreloaded.gamersfirst.com/2018/09/mid-september-update.html Thanks, Matt Awesome!
MACKxBOLAN Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 SALT We will need a large metal bin to chuck all the shotguns in. My 38 does better.
Keshi Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, MattScott said: Hi all, I have updated the changed Weapon and Improved Rifling changes in the latest blog to help with confusion. The stats are now a direct comparison between 1.19.7 and 1.19.6.https://apbreloaded.gamersfirst.com/2018/09/mid-september-update.html Thanks, Matt Thank you for the update matt!
vsb Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: That is what your father said too. i wouldn’t know
virginiavirgin Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 4 hours ago, MattScott said: Hi all, I have updated the changed Weapon and Improved Rifling changes in the latest blog to help with confusion. The stats are now a direct comparison between 1.19.7 and 1.19.6.https://apbreloaded.gamersfirst.com/2018/09/mid-september-update.html Thanks, Matt I don’t see anything about the ogre
Rikard86 Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Just popping in to write this: Strife gud. That's all I have to say on the matter.
(Xbox)MortisedGuide Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 8 hours ago, neophobia said: take a look at the blogpost btt: did you also test how forgiving they are for bad aim? this was/is my biggest concern besides range, you didn't even have to hit enemies well and they still easily died Link.
Hexerin Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 7 hours ago, MattScott said: Hi all, "Damage 55 (from 80). Total Damage 931 (from 858)" Looks like you need to go over them again, because clearly something is wrong.
AxeTurboAgresor Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Strife is so SO bad. Any other shotgun is still better in every situation. 2:25 - at THAT distance, you should be freakin dead in 2 shots from strife, yet he landed 3 hits in row and u happened to be still alive.
neophobia Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, (Xbox)MortisedGuide said: 11 hours ago, neophobia said: take a look at the blogpost btt: did you also test how forgiving they are for bad aim? this was/is my biggest concern besides range, you didn't even have to hit enemies well and they still easily died Link. besides that you can always find the blog where it always was and has been for the past... 8 yearshttps://apbreloaded.gamersfirst.com
Strikes Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 What kind of typewritter keyboard are you using my man.
Ketog Posted September 20, 2018 Author Posted September 20, 2018 20 hours ago, Clandestine said: Testing with over 200ms tho? Alright but what does that change ? 3 hours ago, Rarky said: What kind of typewritter keyboard are you using my man. It's a modern gamer thingy , it's called a mechanical keyboard
Strikes Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Ketog said: Alright but what does that change ? It's a modern gamer thingy , it's called a mechanical keyboard And here I thought my Razer Blackwidow was making a lot of noise haha
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