MattScott Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Hi everyone, Fight Club can be an amazing experience in APB when everything works as intended. However, since there is no threat segregation and we allow team killing, these districts have some unique problems. Moving forward, we are requiring a minimum of rank 30 to enter Fight Club. We feel that this will help newer players avoid this area till they have more experience. We have also had some player disciplinary issues, and now it will take them longer to raise up new characters to enter these districts. As always, we will continue to monitor this change to make sure it has the intended effect. Thanks, Matt 27 11
TacticallyRed Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 This wont stop the r225 Ts But least it'll stop those random low rank trolls that go into FC just to TK whoever's unlucky enough they target. It also helps make sure there's space in FC that isn't taken up by a random low rank .
swft Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 30 rank isn't going to cut it fyi. Maybe something like 50+ rank would. 10
vsb Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, MattScott said: some player disciplinary issues i think this is the nicest way ive ever heard someone say 'cheating shitheads' before 1
Kewlin Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 This this include new characters on an account with high rank characters?
VanilleKeks Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Rank 30 seems rather low, I'd say 50 atleast. Otherwise nice change. 7
Kewlin Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, VanilleKeks said: Rank 30 seems rather low, I'd say 50 atleast. Otherwise nice change. It is kinda' weird, since 30 is barely any missions at all, but we'll see I guess.
claude Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) If your concern is primarily about new players joining and getting stomped and causing frustration among the players, or people making new chars just to grief, why not just lock FC behind a playtime wall for each individual character. This way, people with low ranked FC characters don't have to rank up to 30 just to play. I think this would be a more effective way of addressing your concerns, considering the fact that rank 30 only takes an hour or two to get. Only allow players who've played 10+ hours into FC. Edited February 13, 2019 by claude 2
CookiePuss Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, claude said: allow players who've played 10+ hours into FC. But it takes much less playtime than that to hit r30. Also, I'm not sure what you are suggesting is an option. Edited February 13, 2019 by CookiePuss
claude Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: But it takes much less playtime than that to hit r30. That's what I'm saying. If they're concerned about new players joining FC before they even learn how to play the game, or just cheaters jumping right back into FC after being banned, they should at least make the requirement to access FC take up a chunk of the players time. 5 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Also, I'm not sure what you are suggesting is an option. Maybe not, all I know is that overall playtime for each individual character is tracked, so I can't see why they wouldn't try something like this. Edited February 13, 2019 by claude
Fortune Runner Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 10 hours is not a good idea. R30 takes longer to at least learn some of the basics. 10 hours of being carried doesnt amount to much.
Nanometic Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, claude said: Only allow players who've played 10+ hours into FC. Can also just afk in social over night. ez 10 hours.
killerskull Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Havent played the game in a long time so dont know the hacker status. But this is great, no reroll hackers in FC. At least, it will reduce the frequency by a lot.
claude Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, Nanometic said: Can also just afk in social over night. ez 10 hours. Yeah but that's still 10 hours longer a cheater would have to wait to cheat in FC. Not even that bad if you think about it... way better than a cheater playing an hour or so just to get r30.
Nanometic Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, claude said: Yeah but that's still 10 hours longer a cheater would have to wait to cheat in FC. Not even that bad if you think about it... way better than a cheater playing an hour or so just to get r30. Maybe, they'd probably figure out a pretty simple way to work with the 10 hour limit. Hopefully, once BE is up to scratch with the R30 limit, they'll get smacked before even reaching Fight Club. Here's hoping anyway... Edited February 13, 2019 by Nanometic
Fortune Runner Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, claude said: Yeah but that's still 10 hours longer a cheater would have to wait to cheat in FC. Not even that bad if you think about it... way better than a cheater playing an hour or so just to get r30. look 10 hours is nothing to a cheater. R30 means that much longer whether cheater or not. Why are you arguing about the obvious ?
claude Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, Fortune Runner said: look 10 hours is nothing to a cheater. R30 means that much longer whether cheater or not. Make a new account, make a new character, join a bronze mission district, play until you hit R30. There's no way it takes you longer than 10 hours to get R30. I doubt it'll take you longer than 3 hours. 4 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said: Why are you arguing about the obvious ? What's obvious? You clearly don't remember how fast early ranks pass by.
Nanometic Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, claude said: What's obvious? You clearly don't remember how fast early ranks pass by. Without premium?
claude Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nanometic said: Without premium? Even if new accounts couldn't redeem premium trial codes (if they still work nowadays) I'm sure getting to r30 in under 10 hours wouldn't be much of a challenge.
Nanometic Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, claude said: Even if new accounts couldn't redeem premium trial codes (if they still work nowadays) I'm sure getting to r30 in under 10 hours wouldn't be much of a challenge. The difference is, you have to play missions to get to rank 30, its required work, no matter what. With 10 hours, you can easily just do whatever and not actually play, make 20 or so accounts, run the game multiple times and afk them all in social for a night, with LOs banning records of about a month thats nearly a years worth of game play for a single night of effort. Edited February 13, 2019 by Nanometic
Salammbo Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 I play only in Asylum, I'm happy to see that some things have been taken into consideration, thank you @MattScott .
Healt Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 why not both? timegate and rankgate. timegate would hold those who rank fast, rankgate would hold those who rank slow.
Loom Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) A minimum of 15750 standing is required for R30, with a 2250 average standing per mission this would be about 7 missions + some overhead. I would estimate this is achievable within 1 1/2 to 2 hours. That is quite short. But while i wouldnt say that its enough time to gather experience for new players, i recently saw some people repeatedly joining with fresh characters after (i assume) they were banned by a gm in asylum. So the R30 condition would definitely help out with that issue. If you plan to raise the rank requirement, please keep in mind that fight club is needed to complete the tutorial and thats ideally what new players should do. Edited February 13, 2019 by Loom typo 1
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