Kevlar 3 is useless

[Mitne 724]

I used Kevlar 3 before nerf and even then I considered it rubbish.

And yet we got this person in 2022. Veteran no less.

Edited August 22, 2022 by Mitne

[ColorBauss 74]

[TzickyT 212]

in apb i feel like they need to rework most of the mods in apb ... from than we can check if the meta is going to change or not.

[Qualeta 15]

On 8/20/2022 at 9:35 PM, xHenryman90x said:

Kevlar 3 combined with medspray is useful with low mobility weapons, such as LMG's or RPG's. There's no other use for it.

+rep
I think you saw me in baylan doing this yesterday with killerbee

[El-Neko 30]

I was gonna make a somewhat serious post but I realize its Todesklinge so not gonna bother but if you want me to give some advice... Positioning and aiming is key otherwise you're a slow moving brick depending on your weapon.

[Ketog 1031]

The mod OP actually wants:

[xHenryman90x 129]

10 hours ago, Qualeta said:

+rep
I think you saw me in baylan doing this yesterday with killerbee

I think i did.

[ColorBauss 74]

8 hours ago, Ketog said:

The mod OP actually wants:

Better watch out, Todesklinge might get jealous when he sees that mod on you 

[Uhtdred 238]

kev 3 is only good if you're carplaying, or if you're in a very small place where speed is not a factor. Always think about this: "why 98% of the people don't use kev 3?", thats right, because it's a bad mod...

[cowhorseman 441]

On 8/22/2022 at 1:45 AM, AsgerLund said:

How about nade balance, tho.

what do you mean. it's concuss or bust. fair and balanced. and don't you use percs or someone will rip your head off for not using concuss. because concuss is best and fair and balanced.

[AsgerLund 1271]

3 hours ago, cowhorseman said:

what do you mean. it's concuss or bust. fair and balanced. and don't you use percs or someone will rip your head off for not using concuss. because concuss is best and fair and balanced.

But I don't know how to panic suicide in CQC with concurssion nades...

[FakeBungo 248]

kevlar is used in some situations. the only thing that needs changing is health regeneration, because the gameplay is too focused around health regen.

 

but LO needs to fix servers and cheaters before doing any balancing because the game is a complete waste of time if you die 50% of the time to lag and 50% of the time to aimbotters.

[ZoriaDunne 327]

As a Kevlar 3 main user + Alig.
I have to say that it's all about playstyle, you're heavy, and you can't move fast like others, try to move more tactical, corners are your best allies,
I used to play a lot back in the day, surfing cars and destroying everythinig with my Alig. Those extra shots to die were really helpful. If you're on an open field, you're going to die, so make sure you move with a big car, Pioneer to use it as cover.
If you learn how to use Kevlar 3 it's really good, Anything can be good in the right hands, and you'll get a lot of people crying about Kevlar in your chat.

 

Merged.

 

On 8/25/2022 at 12:35 AM, Uhtdred said:

kev 3 is only good if you're carplaying, or if you're in a very small place where speed is not a factor. Always think about this: "why 98% of the people don't use kev 3?", thats right, because it's a bad mod...

Most people tend to use the easy stuff, that's why you see 98% of people using the same stuff.

[BlatMan 711]

3 hours ago, ZoriaDunne said:

Most people tend to use the easy stuff, that's why you see 98% of people using the same stuff.

If that were true 98% of the players would use the Raptor 45.

[ZoriaDunne 327]

19 hours ago, BlatMan said:

If that were true 98% of the players would use the Raptor 45.

most people use Ntec/Joker SR15 Carbine/Obeya and clothing agent.

[gremlen 18]

Why do I truly believe that OP and queen of love are not gamer guys(girls) and they just don't understand how the games work overall

Edited August 28, 2022 by gremlen

[Todesklinge 143]

Thats not a solution to say "dont use Kevlar".

Its unbalanced and need a HP increase.

 

Thats why 99% of Players use Clotting Agent, because its overpowered and have no downsides.

[neophobia 216]

On 8/20/2022 at 1:33 AM, MrChan said:

Have you posted this thread before (months ago. Not the accidental duplicate today) or are all your posts so similar that it just seems that way?

 

Merged.

 

Joined Jul 2012 and he still doesn't understand that movement is the most important thing in an APB firefight.

he posted this thread years ago for the first time. like 2014. todesklinge is quite the meme.

 

kevlar is weaker than ca or even flak for sure, but like all i'd ever want to see would be a slight movement speed increase, no other changes. definitely not more hp - in my opinion. it already is quite a chunk of hp. and does give you a big advantage in open field battles - yes, these are less common than other encounters but that doesn't mean you can just make it way too strong in these. maybe the tiniest bit to make it more consistent so every weapon (besides sniper ofc) needs at least one additional shot - i'm not sure if that isn't already the case but idk, maybe e.g. pmg.

 

fragile could also use some tweaks.

 

now... i hope no one tells him that al of these mods don't have an effect if the enemy is using stabba - besides the movement speed differences.

Edited August 30, 2022 by neophobia

[Ketog 1031]

On 8/25/2022 at 9:51 PM, ZoriaDunne said:

As a Kevlar 3 main user + Alig.
I have to say that it's all about playstyle, you're heavy, and you can't move fast like others, try to move more tactical, corners are your best allies,
I used to play a lot back in the day, surfing cars and destroying everythinig with my Alig. Those extra shots to die were really helpful. If you're on an open field, you're going to die, so make sure you move with a big car, Pioneer to use it as cover.
If you learn how to use Kevlar 3 it's really good, Anything can be good in the right hands, and you'll get a lot of people crying about Kevlar in your chat.

 

Merged.

 

Most people tend to use the easy stuff, that's why you see 98% of people using the same stuff.

 

On 8/26/2022 at 1:00 AM, BlatMan said:

If that were true 98% of the players would use the Raptor 45.

 

 

both of these opinions have a bit of truth, thing is a weapon being easy to use doesn't necessairely means it's good

Atac and Raptor 45 being a great exemple, they're not bad, but not meta either, even though anybody can use one without trouble


Kevlar in itself is useful in some very specific scenarios, but for most of your gameplay it won't be, simply because apb is all about movement.

[neophobia 216]

On 8/20/2022 at 5:12 PM, mtz said:

So far, Todesklinge's track record with threads regarding Kevlar and game balance (ignoring this very thread) includes, as listed on his forum profile:

• a demand for Clotting Agent and a few other things to be removed because he can't combat them, in September 2021.
• a miscategorized thread which calls Kevlar's underperformance a "bug", in January 2021.
• a complaint about Clotting Agent beating him, a Kevlar user, which somehow proves that Clotting Agent needs to be nerfed, in October 2020.
• a claim that using meta weapons is actually cheating, in August 2020.
• a whole slew of weird demands for gameplay changes that essentially boil down to "Kevlar should make me a bullet sponge", in July 2020.
• an empty complaint with no proposed fixes regarding the shape of the meta, in December 2019.
• a proposal that Kevlar go as far as increasing player health by 45%, along with a whole bunch of other wild math misadventures, in October 2019.
• a suggestion of making Kevlar the only way to survive an N-HVR shot, in October 2019.
• a "bug report" of Kevlar 3 making players slower at retreating into cover in fights against snipers, in August 2019.
• a call for Kevlar to become singular instead of existing in 3 variants, and to have it increase player health by 60%, in September 2019.
• a generic complaint about being too slow because of Kevlar, in August 2018.

If you feel like you've seen this thread before, it's because this is almost the only thing this user posts about.

Credit where it's due, Todesklinge is the most persistent member of the community, even if for the worst possible reasons. Continuing to use a character mod that has – over the course of over 5 years – proved itself to drag you down in most fights is a feat that I quite literally don't know how to describe.

are the old forums around somewhere? it's been like that there too

[Gateron 267]

On 8/29/2022 at 12:01 PM, Todesklinge said:

Thats not a solution to say "dont use Kevlar".

Its unbalanced and need a HP increase.

 

Thats why 99% of Players use Clotting Agent, because its overpowered and have no downsides.

Bruh kevlar is broken and its used to cheese with PMG and fart spray. Because you are bad at the game doesn't mean it needs a buff. First try to get gold lmao. Don't give Matt any idea they listened long enough to people like you destroying the balance of the game.

Edited August 30, 2022 by Gateron

[Todesklinge 143]

On 8/30/2022 at 8:46 PM, Gateron said:

Bruh kevlar is broken and its used to cheese with PMG and fart spray. Because you are bad at the game doesn't mean it needs a buff. First try to get gold lmao. Don't give Matt any idea they listened long enough to people like you destroying the balance of the game.

Tell other people, the, are bad is the only answer you can get, because you have no true answer about the balancing problem in the game!

 

Clotting Agent is overpowered and broken, so everyone use it. Also automaticly all other green modifications are bad, because the player behind is bad... your logic is not existing.

 

You are one of the problems of the game by killing the community with wrong and false informations to the gameplay by attacking personal and not with logic of balancing.

[Gateron 267]

4 hours ago, Todesklinge said:

Tell other people, the, are bad is the only answer you can get, because you have no true answer about the balancing problem in the game!

 

Clotting Agent is overpowered and broken, so everyone use it. Also automaticly all other green modifications are bad, because the player behind is bad... your logic is not existing.

 

You are one of the problems of the game by killing the community with wrong and false informations to the gameplay by attacking personal and not with logic of balancing.

Clothing agent overpowered and broken? How so because you start regenerating earlier but at a slower rate? It doesn't affect gameplay that much and doesn't give you more health so, all weapons are still the same time to kill. Your logic makes no sense why it should be buffed. Your reasoning is I can't make kills with this mod on please buff meanwhile top tier players  use kevlar with fartspray to be able to cheese. Its so broken that we use kevlar + pmg and fart spray and with that we can even win against blatant cheaters.

 

What can you classify as true reliable information. Your information seems to come from your patootie. I have been playing since OBT learning the game inside out meanwhile going against the best players. Most good players know how much G1, LO has fucked up because they listen to the average players like you. It makes no sense to listen to a average player that has no idea how the game mechanics work in depth. The issue in this case sits between the chair and the monitor. 

 

Don't take this personally but, i am done with you silvers and yellows trying to destroy the game balance then it already is.

Edited September 3, 2022 by Gateron

[EerieEric 21]

10 hours ago, Todesklinge said:

Tell other people, the, are bad is the only answer you can get, because you have no true answer about the balancing problem in the game!

 

Clotting Agent is overpowered and broken, so everyone use it. Also automaticly all other green modifications are bad, because the player behind is bad... your logic is not existing.

 

You are one of the problems of the game by killing the community with wrong and false informations to the gameplay by attacking personal and not with logic of balancing.

 

Kevlar 3 is bad.  Just use clotting agent and learn to aim, or better yet learn to dodge bullets.  It ain't rocket science my guy.

[vsb 6171]

11 hours ago, Todesklinge said:

Tell other people, the, are bad is the only answer you can get, because you have no true answer about the balancing problem in the game!

 

Clotting Agent is overpowered and broken, so everyone use it. Also automaticly all other green modifications are bad, because the player behind is bad... your logic is not existing.

 

You are one of the problems of the game by killing the community with wrong and false informations to the gameplay by attacking personal and not with logic of balancing.

you literally used "i miss a lot of shots" as a reason kevlar is underpowered, no need to get so upset when someone turns your own argument against you