Similarities Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, The Suspect said: I mean, yeah, you can pay and sig your own driver to cheat in game with 1k peak online but do those kids have enough money and most important, coding skills to write one and successfully utilize to bypass BE? 1 I think you overestimate BE, it's JUST okay, I've seen plenty of sources to cheats that "bypassed" BattlEye (before Bastian started redirecting calls from lsass/csrss' NtWVM and NtRVM functions to his driver via IoCtl requests and invoking KeBugCheck when he deems them illegitimate) and there were a lot of red flags (creation of a DRIVER_OBJECT from a driver that has no certificate, VMT hooks with their caller func's return address, or VMT ptr, being located outside of game memory, strings with no encryption looking specifically for game exes, CreateThread being called directly from the cheat module rather than hijacking an existing thread, handles being opened rather than hijacked, failure to unlink from PEB, PE headers being plain as day, and more) and there was never any action taken on them until they were either released or sold, the problem is not that they're private either, as all of the things listed above are relatively sketchy given the scenario. It's okay, but it's not good enough to wreck a lot of p2cs as long as the p2c is actually cleaning up after itself properly (which most do not, because a lot of the people developing this stuff are either plain incompetent or just don't care), it's especially JUST okay given that a lot of functionality it has, such as the ability to dump memory pages (from user mode and kernel) is rarely used by Bastian and co, the reason being that manual memory analysis takes a long time, it's easier to just buy and sig stuff than it is to manually analyze things for long periods of time w/o being sure what they are, so it's really not all that great, I've seen total idiots who have no idea what an entry point is get around BE's auto bans for quite a period of time. Edited July 24, 2018 by Similarities
Slickmund Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 First encounter with a cheater in ages, Silver district Citadel, blatantly speedhacking. Wont name the fella, didn't record either because I sure am not going to bother with doing so unless I start getting annoyed by it. Just dropping my observations here really.
Saxtus Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) So BE can't do everything. As long as LO doesn't its own independent tests on sketchy people, people will always find a way to cheat. Edited July 25, 2018 by Saxtus
The Suspect Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Similarities said: I think you overestimate BE Nah, just realistically estimating APB "coding" scene, most of people are on "rename ayyware source and sell it as p2c" level. I.e. RX/HS, clueless noname and paster who wasn't able to compile ready-to-use base without spoonfeeding a year ago, now runs "invite-only" "elite" apb p2c lmao. 5 hours ago, Slickmund said: First encounter with a cheater in ages, Silver district Citadel, blatantly speedhacking. Wont name the fella, didn't record either because I sure am not going to bother with doing so unless I start getting annoyed by it. Just dropping my observations here really. Here we go, kid downloads some packet editor and pretends to be a b1g BE bypasser and cheater by clicking few buttons. Edited July 25, 2018 by The Suspect :~)
Similarities Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 10 hours ago, The Suspect said: Nah, just realistically estimating APB "coding" scene, most of people are on "rename ayyware source and sell it as p2c" level. I.e. RX/HS, clueless noname and paster who wasn't able to compile ready-to-use base without spoonfeeding a year ago, now runs "invite-only" "elite" apb p2c lmao. 5 HS you mean mr. "I can't write an anti-screenshot so instead I'll have a radar hack that you put on your other monitor", yeah he's an absolute genius, he also said his hag is going to have a BE bypass, see him in 2035 i guess.
notMateo Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 9:41 PM, MattScott said: I am not proud of banning. I've already spoken on this topic a lot before, so I'm not going rehash that here. Good line.
Werefox Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 After hearing a new Dev team is working on APB now and that BattlEye is taking over, I'm going to jump back on and start playing again after 5 years, I left in 2013. I've been a server owner several times in ARMA 2 and 3, I know the inner workings of BattlEye, as others pointed out, its not perfect, but it works. That's good enough for me to get back on and start playing.
AveragePlayer Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/24/2018 at 5:13 PM, BXNNXD said: well now we know that you’re full of shit lol youre either lying or you managed to find the single most inept GM the game has ever had nope it was a GM following the rules. 0 tolerance for cheats, and it said on the GM rule post "the use of a macro or anything that mimics a macro" was to be banned. Back then they banned for 2 hours anyone that cheated in any form. but you would have to be a RTW player to remember the golden days. sure they would reroll but all of their stuff on the first account was gone. the issue is that the "entitled" kids think they deserve to cheats and will admit it then call you salty for trying to make them play in the rules.
vsb Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, AveragePlayer said: nope it was a GM following the rules. 0 tolerance for cheats, and it said on the GM rule post "the use of a macro or anything that mimics a macro" was to be banned. Back then they banned for 2 hours anyone that cheated in any form. but you would have to be a RTW player to remember the golden days. sure they would reroll but all of their stuff on the first account was gone. the issue is that the "entitled" kids think they deserve to cheats and will admit it then call you salty for trying to make them play in the rules. banning people for using ingame functions is the opposite of following the rules lmao
AveragePlayer Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 7/28/2018 at 10:25 PM, BXNNXD said: On 7/28/2018 at 10:10 PM, AveragePlayer said: nope it was a GM following the rules. 0 tolerance for cheats, and it said on the GM rule post "the use of a macro or anything that mimics a macro" was to be banned. Back then they banned for 2 hours anyone that cheated in any form. but you would have to be a RTW player to remember the golden days. sure they would reroll but all of their stuff on the first account was gone. the issue is that the "entitled" kids think they deserve to cheats and will admit it then call you salty for trying to make them play in the rules. banning people for using ingame functions is the opposite of following the rules lmao no its not when the "function" is an exploit. and is posted by gms as a Rule.
vsb Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 9 hours ago, AveragePlayer said: no its not when the "function" is an exploit. and is posted by gms as a Rule any gun that gains an “advantage” from scroll wheeling is balanced around its min ttk - scroll wheeling won’t change that, so scroll wheeling is not an exploit idk why this is so hard for some people to understand 3
Fortune Runner Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 18 hours ago, BXNNXD said: any gun that gains an “advantage” from scroll wheeling is balanced around its min ttk - scroll wheeling won’t change that, so scroll wheeling is not an exploit idk why this is so hard for some people to understand I have a true story to tell I tried that scroll wheel trick since people claim it works to see if its true and needs a fix to know the truth of it. It doesn't and I am glad. The End
Cru Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said: I have a true story to tell I tried that scroll wheel trick since people claim it works to see if its true and needs a fix to know the truth of it. It doesn't and I am glad. The End pls dude, ahah , dont lie to ur self , u just got to set fire 1 in scroll weel up and fire 2 on scroll weel down , and u gonna start shothing whit oscar and fbw as automatics
vsb Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Cru said: pls dude, ahah , dont lie to ur self , u just got to set fire 1 in scroll weel up and fire 2 on scroll weel down , and u gonna start shothing whit oscar and fbw as automatics On 9/3/2018 at 10:03 AM, BXNNXD said: any gun that gains an “advantage” from scroll wheeling is balanced around its min ttk - scroll wheeling won’t change that, so scroll wheeling is not an exploit idk why this is so hard for some people to understand 1
Keshi Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 idk why people need scrollwheel to shoot a carbine consistant while they can just train and maintain the click per second to make it work as good as a scrollwheel
Virgil Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) nobody good at the game uses scroll wheel on carbine, more delusional players. firing consistently is better than firing at max fire rate, and if you fire consistently for long enough, you will be able to fire it pretty quick. but who knows, this delusion will never go away, i've been called a macroer/scroll-wheel user since i started the game because I use almost exclusively marksman guns, but never have, same with a lot of old MBAH players. it's almost like nobody does it. Edited September 4, 2018 by Virgil
Keshi Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: nobody good at the game uses scroll wheel on carbine, more delusional players. firing consistently is better than firing at max fire rate, and if you fire consistently for long enough, you will be able to fire it pretty quick. ^
Virgil Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Keshi said: 39 minutes ago, Virgil said: nobody good at the game uses scroll wheel on carbine, more delusional players. firing consistently is better than firing at max fire rate, and if you fire consistently for long enough, you will be able to fire it pretty quick. ^ yeah not real sure what happened to this community they think good players use a scroll wheel, lmao they think shredder is balanced with ir3 hahahahahaha they thought yukon was balanced jesus christ, what happened to this game
Keshi Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: yeah not real sure what happened to this community they think good players use a scroll wheel, lmao they think shredder is balanced with ir3 hahahahahaha they thought yukon was balanced jesus christ, what happened to this game i've been maining carbine ever since 2014. I jammed that gun so much that i can shoot it consistantly untill i quit in 2016. Now after i came back, 1hours of using already got me back to my consistency Some people just don't want to practice and call everyone who can do it a macro user or a cheater lmfao
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