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What exactly is banned i and many others like to stretch what we make so throw us some specifics of whats allowed and not thanks shit like "no nazi symbols" is too vague

-All swastikas
-genitalia (dicks, pussies)

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here we go again

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34 minutes ago, chaoscody said:

i and many others

Who are those "many others" that you speak of? Who appointed you to be their spokesperson anyway?

 

36 minutes ago, chaoscody said:

shit like "no nazi symbols" is too vague

If you are unable to tell what sort of symbols would be forbidden just from reading sentences like "no nazi symbolism", I'd bargain you're under the recommended age restriction for this game.

 

There are some things that you really should know are not okay to create. This sort of stuff is (or should have been) taught to you in school. If you've paid any attention whatsoever in your history classes, you should know about the things perpetrated by Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler's rule. It's absolutely baffling to me why you would need someone to explain to you why swastikas are not okay to have on your APB character.

 

The part about "other cultural swastikas" is a pointless argument. Yes, the swastika was originally a religious symbol, which was appropriated by Nazi Germany. The magnitude of these crimes against humanity was such that almost universally, all over the world, the swastika lost its original meaning, and in the international culture it's predominantly associated with the Nazis. Practically no one in the general public will defend you if you put a swastika on your clothes and try to say that it's "not the nazi swastika, but some other swastika of some other religion". This is not how we understand that symbol anymore. (Bonus points if you also accuse those punishing you of "religious discrimination" because at that point you're making it painfully obvious that you're just trying to start shit and be edgy.)

 

Your best guidance is your common sense, really. If it's a hate symbol, it's a no-go. If it's full-blown porn, it's a no-go. If it discriminates other people, it's a no-go. Believe it or not, this is an online multiplayer game, with real people on the other side of the screen. It's not about how you interpret it — it's about how everyone who sees it will interpret it.

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well i can't be the only person out of a couple hundred who likes to push things and who appointed me? myself no need to be a smart patootie mate we're all friends i'd hope

so you're saying iron eagles, iron crosses, pepes, anarchist symbols, confederate flags, communist hammer & sickles and hand gesture OK sign they're all not allowed because a single someone can convey those as a symbol of hate?

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6 minutes ago, chaoscody said:

well i can't be the only person out of a couple hundred who likes to push things

So you literally have no underlying motive beyond "trying to push things". Sheesh. At least the other people I've seen trying to justify using Nazi symbols in APB were more creative with their excuses.

 

7 minutes ago, chaoscody said:

and who appointed me? myself no need to be a smart patootie mate we're all friends i'd hope

Personally speaking, I'm afraid I don't exactly want to be friends with people who get their kicks out of using fascist symbols.

 

10 minutes ago, chaoscody said:

so you're saying iron eagles, iron crosses, pepes, anarchist symbols, confederate flags, communist hammer & sickles and hand gesture OK sign they're all not allowed because a single someone can convey those as a symbol of hate?

Whoo boy, where do we even start with this one?

It kind of feels like you're trying to muddle the discourse by serving this hodgepodge of symbols, some of which are literal Nazi symbols (Iron Eagle, Iron Cross; worth mentioning, the German criminal code forbids the distribution and public use of symbols such as these) and some of which are false flag memes (the OK hand sign, which is an innocent expression that some morons on the Internet tried to bait the media into deeming a hate symbol). Putting them on the same level feels dishonest.

 

We live in stupid times in which an innocent web comic character can get turned into a hate symbol. Observe the context and the person using the symbol — humans have the ability to contextualize the things they say and do.

If it's your friend reacting to something on Twitch with zcrhdmv.png , they're probably just reacting to a scary situation on the stream they're watching.

If it's some Internet rando posting Pepe in clown makeup and also spouting some bullcrap about other races and politics, they're probably using the symbol with an agenda.

 

It's all about context. Pepe has that ambiguity behind him, so if you really want to distinguish the intent, you need to contextualize the use of the symbol. Some symbols don't have that ambiguity. Let's be honest: nobody in APB is ever going to hold history lessons and create Nazi uniforms for "educational purposes". If someone's using Nazi symbols on their character or their car or anywhere, they a) are Nazi trash, b) are kids who don't comprehend the meaning of those symbols yet, c) are edgy cretins who are doing it deliberately just to get some kicks out of it... and in all cases this is not acceptable and should be reported.

 

Simple as that.

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yeah pepe is a stretch but thats how the common media portrays it so its just like anything can be a hate symbol thats why i want a definite line of whats allowed in LO's game

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1 hour ago, chaoscody said:


so you're saying iron eagles, iron crosses, pepes, anarchist symbols, confederate flags, communist hammer & sickles and hand gesture OK sign they're all not allowed because a single someone can convey those as a symbol of hate?

I think iron crosses, good ol pepe, anarchist symbols, the hammer and sickle as well as any hand gestures are fine.

 

Actually given how many General Lees I've seen the Confederate flag is ok too.

 

So really just not swastikas I think.

 

For the body stuff, just no below the belt genitalia, and no graphic sex... I'm not sure about bodily fluids tbh, I've seen some strange things.

 

That's how I understand the rules, if you have specific questions, I'd just DM someone on the LO staff and ask.

 

Also, hey dork where you been?

 

 

edit: Im sure you've seen the armbands on Jericho, Red Armband, White Circle, Black OCA... so you can get pretty close.

 

For instance if you wanted to make the Nazi Eagle:
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You might be able to do what a lot of neo-nazi groups do (especially in Germany), and just replace the Swastika. Though maybe ask an LO staff member about that just to be sure

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very surprised about confederate flag considering how well associated it is with the kkk

 

33 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

hey dork where you been?

just around probs no chance of me joining the discord ever again probably for the better tbh

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1 minute ago, chaoscody said:

very surprised about confederate flag considering how well associated it is with the kkk

Same.

But it is what it is.

2 minutes ago, chaoscody said:

just around probs no chance of me joining the discord ever again probably for the better tbh

Fair enough. I was just asking Murk why you hadn't rejoined, take care of yourself. 😉

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3 hours ago, chaoscody said:

-genitalia (dicks, pussies)

thx

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1 hour ago, CookiePuss said:

For instance if you wanted to make the Nazi Eagle:

was going to make that exact iron eagle just without the swastika lol even asked murk to ask the discord if anyone had one like it

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4 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

I heard underage APB players is also bannable.

 

3 hours ago, chaoscody said:

yeah no kiddin'

i feel like this deserves to be posted twice

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4 hours ago, chaoscody said:

very surprised about confederate flag considering how well associated it is with the kkk

Everyone should know the real flag of the kkk is the US one.

5 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

I'm not sure about bodily fluids tbh, I've seen some strange things.

It's just milk... or another white substance that the anime girls spilt on themselves, duh quit being so perverted :')

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16 minutes ago, Acornie said:

Everyone should know the real flag of the kkk is the US one.

It's just milk... or another white substance that the anime girls spilt on themselves, duh quit being so perverted :')

Weebs do love them some yogurt. Not sure why it's so runny, but whatevs.

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26 minutes ago, Acornie said:

 

It's just milk... or another white substance that the anime girls spilt on themselves, duh quit being so perverted :')

I think i've heard that defence before..

 

"I didn't intend it that way, Surely you can't hold me accountable for you're interpertation" 

 

How do you spit on yourself?

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hurr durr i cry about symbols in an 18+ game whats the point crying honestly 

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9 hours ago, MartinPL said:

Who are those "many others" that you speak of? Who appointed you to be their spokesperson anyway?

 

If you are unable to tell what sort of symbols would be forbidden just from reading sentences like "no nazi symbolism", I'd bargain you're under the recommended age restriction for this game.

 

There are some things that you really should know are not okay to create. This sort of stuff is (or should have been) taught to you in school. If you've paid any attention whatsoever in your history classes, you should know about the things perpetrated by Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler's rule. It's absolutely baffling to me why you would need someone to explain to you why swastikas are not okay to have on your APB character.

 

The part about "other cultural swastikas" is a pointless argument. Yes, the swastika was originally a religious symbol, which was appropriated by Nazi Germany. The magnitude of these crimes against humanity was such that almost universally, all over the world, the swastika lost its original meaning, and in the international culture it's predominantly associated with the Nazis. Practically no one in the general public will defend you if you put a swastika on your clothes and try to say that it's "not the nazi swastika, but some other swastika of some other religion". This is not how we understand that symbol anymore. (Bonus points if you also accuse those punishing you of "religious discrimination" because at that point you're making it painfully obvious that you're just trying to start shit and be edgy.)

 

Your best guidance is your common sense, really. If it's a hate symbol, it's a no-go. If it's full-blown porn, it's a no-go. If it discriminates other people, it's a no-go. Believe it or not, this is an online multiplayer game, with real people on the other side of the screen. It's not about how you interpret it — it's about how everyone who sees it will interpret it.

I still think that he didnt nothing wrong. He standed for his country and people. He was against being controled by international powers. That he was racist is a lie because other countries also helped (there are many pics censored).

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- Hate symbols, or obvious "this is not a hate symbol, but i totally hid one in there"

- Every genitalia that's under the belt.

- Technically real life brands

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30 minutes ago, Ketog said:

- Hate symbols, or obvious "this is not a hate symbol, but i totally hid one in there"

- Every genitalia that's under the belt.

- Technically real life brands

Do we have genitals above the belt? I didnt know... can you point them?

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10 hours ago, chaoscody said:

confederate flags

https://www.dictionary.com/e/politics/confederate-flag/

 

The Confederate flag is a flag that was used by the seceded Southern states, or the Confederacy, during the Civil War. While the Confederacy used three different flags, the flag most commonly called the Confederate flag was its battle flag.

While for some the Confederate flag is a statement of Southern pride, over the years it has come to be viewed by many as an offensive and racist symbol.

 

I am uncertain on Little Orbits stance on the confederate flag since the white supremacist group that was started by the democrats use it as a hate symbol even though its meaning is for the south and southern pride and misused by the white supremacist group for hate.

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57 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

https://www.dictionary.com/e/politics/confederate-flag/

 

The Confederate flag is a flag that was used by the seceded Southern states, or the Confederacy, during the Civil War. While the Confederacy used three different flags, the flag most commonly called the Confederate flag was its battle flag.

While for some the Confederate flag is a statement of Southern pride, over the years it has come to be viewed by many as an offensive and racist symbol.

 

I am uncertain on Little Orbits stance on the confederate flag since the white supremacist group that was started by the democrats use it as a hate symbol even though its meaning is for the south and southern pride and misused by the white supremacist group for hate.

bruh you are late af

 

The Confederacy existed for 4 years.

4

years

 

Not to mention no one seemed to give two shits about the flag until the civil rights movement. Then suddenly everyone wants to fly the flag and put up statues of traitors.

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i was in a mission with a trainee who had the n word in his logo and clan name crackheads, he spawned in my car and drove off 100s of meters

also i saw a soldier with swastika patches 

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2 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

bruh you are late af

 

The Confederacy existed for 4 years.

4

years

 

Not to mention no one seemed to give two shits about the flag until the civil rights movement. Then suddenly everyone wants to fly the flag and put up statues of traitors.

which would be another reason why i don't know Little Orbits stance on it. 

but as for the confederate flag , its always been flown there.

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