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APB is supposed to be grey and dirty. Console APB is colorful and full of palm trees where there shouldn't be any, that's not what APB is.

Right? I really miss the times when your group was like "I feel like playing some shitty random gun today" while driving around in his vaquero, and the enemy did the same thing most of the time. Today, all the variety you have is N-TEC, HVR, CSG, JG together with a Pioneer, Espacio or a 4x4.

It's been nerfed and now feels like throwing wet noodles at your enemy past 10 meters. IR makes somewhat up for it, but then you might as well just use the regular N-FAS without a cooldown timer. CJ makes it inaccurate as hell, even under 10 meters, so I wouldn't use it. There isn't really any mod that benefits the ogre, not even before the nerf. IR didn't help the ogre at all before the latest patch, I don't know why so many people used it.

Right? So many new toys to play with, yet everyone sticks to the most overpowered weapons. Where's the fun in that?

Okay, what do you think they should do? What is your current problem with the shotguns? Simple enough: They nerfed all the weak shotguns, and buffed the two best shotguns. That's all there is to say, no need to discuss anything. The shotgun change is idiotic.

Both NFAS variants have been nerfed and are now close to being useless, while the already pretty damn good CSG and JG have been buffed so they're OP again.

Have you ever tried taking off Kevlar. You're just gimping yourself by using that.

Doesn't give you the sound effects while outside of a vehicle. Also, other players can't hear your music.

You can turn off themes and custom songs by pressing L. Doesn't work with regular/imported songs though.

Thanks.

Did you honestly use IR3 on the ogre pre-nerf? It was literally useless on it before, now it's pretty much mandatory with the lousy 10m range. And then it's slow as hell, so you might as well just use the regular N-FAS instead.

Become one of the OPGLers

So theres a pic of the gun with 3 mod slots, but they're crossed out as they're unavailable. Why add them in the first place?

How are you happy? It makes the N-TEC even better, and almost all the other guns worse. And then there's the CSG and JG which have been buffed back to their OP state we had years ago. Not fun.

Yeah, it's way better now, but it's very far from being a N-TEC competitor. The N-TEC will outgun it all the time.

Well, it's a start and they definitely tried, but they rushed it too fast and pushed it out while it's far from polished. Imho they made the game worse with this patch. N-TEC is better than ever, shotguns are back to their op 2012 times, almost every other weapon has been extremely nerfed if you use IR3. Though the misery, oblivion and cobra changes are pretty good. Super weird.

Yeah I am aware of that, is that actually what they refer to as "first pellets"? It isn't even noticeable that the pellets are fired like a minigun, unless you shoot a car.

If you came back from 4 years ago, shotguns literally haven't changed for you.

What even is this "the first pellets to hit do more damage" change? Don't all the pellets arrive at almost the same time? How does one even notice which pellet comes first, and how much damage it did? Did they elaborate on that? I'm genuinely confused about that. It's also funny how they nerfed the N-FAS to a 10m drop-off range, even the SG-21 'Strife', but buff the JG and CSG to extreme ranges.

The third screenshot is a fake, has been floating around for years now. Literally just a PC pic. Game doesn't even have an M4A1.

Something new to learn. You mean learning how to counter the new CSG and N-TEC in every single mission?

Welcome to the CSG and N-TEC meta. We'll be having dark times unless LO realizes how bad these changes are.

Seems like the JG and CSG are back to their broken state before their nerf years ago, and the True Ogre feels weaker now. N-TEC became better and a lot easier to play. Marksman Rifles have little to no point anymore and suffer a lot from the IR buffnerf. Not sure if LO understood how balance works. This stuff should be tested for longer than a week, and feedback should be recognized.

It'll still be abused, rather than being used creatively. It's just going to be more silvers wrapping their ceresco in it, and wearing a basic black suit with a swastika arm band.

I mean, it's not like we had feedback regarding the stuff, and they barely changed it. Not to mention that this took place in.. a week? Definitely not enough to properly test these changes, especially if you change them during said week.