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No. NL9 » Does 400 stamina damage per shot, so it can finish the job with 1 shot if the stun grenade was not perfect, meaning 0.00 seconds time-to-stun when used as a follow up. Leefekyn did this a lot on stream as he likes to main NL9 when going Less Than Lethal. PIG » 950 stamina damage per shot, so it finishes the job if the grenade barely connects. This is why Stun-grenade range-wise actually complements PIG THE BEST compared to ALL other grenade types as it still connects when they don't, except for regular frag grenades. Also 0.00 seconds follow up. CCG » When combined with stun-grenades, this weapon can chain wonders like this in no time flat: Stun-grenade's only weak-point is that it can't fend off vehicles.

You are wrong because: 1- ONCE AGAIN, there is a difference between "brain-dead weapons" and "dead weapons". How many times must I type this for you? Perhaps it is just be too early for you to even know the difference.. 2 - I don't get mad about clueless people who refuse to read and contribute positively to the forums. Your deliberate stupid-act actually entertains me. You are not the first and you most certainly won't be the last. 3 - I mentioned the PMG, not the OCA.. but it was already established that you can't read, on multiple occasions.. 4 - "Using the gun on a daily basis" is another proof as to why we are here, you got triggered and started this thread-derail because you lack skill. We have already seen how you always get mowed down with the ATAC, which IN FACT is leagues more accurate than both your beloved OCA and PMG, plus kills just as fast. Your lack of skill is not even debatable at this point. Even your latest stream shows you attempting to full-fire the ATAC at exactly 49.5 meters, you didn't even attempt to shorten the distance. You don't even know how the weapons you are using are most effectively utilized.. You are not qualified to discuss weapons when you don't know how to use them. You should "just take the chill pill and move on". 5 - This very thread and your responses are enough proof as to why you are not relaxed. All of your mentions were rage-driven without a single meaningful technical point as to why your favorite weapons are not "brain-dead". This is a forum. Thanks, but apologizing is not necessary. You'd simply start contributing and not crash-threads if you actually read and use your head before typing. You can start by understanding how weapons work. Get better at the game, redeem yourself, get out of the meme-circle.

Its blast radius is higher than those of concussions, percussions and low-yields. Stun grenade still does something where these 3 are completely useless. It only loses in that aspect to frag grenades.

A Tryhard is someone who mains a modded-PMG, Ωmodded Pioneer, gets consistently arrested by LTL-fragile and ends up crying: PMG is not stronk !! LTL is overpowered !! plz nerf LTL or I DDoS Jericho.

FBW can never beat SMGs in their effective range, not even with a macro. The strife-shotgun will lose, other shotguns would melt the FBW macroer.

You're going to pretend innocence now? Typical.. It is now even more clear who actually needs to "take a chill pill and move on". Simply pathetic.

Starting a witness-match is great, definitely better and more fair than getting a mission at random. I like this. Good job!

I ARREST OCA users face-to-face, thx. The issue here is that you can't play without these braindead weapons so don't speak as if you can. If you can't play without one, perhaps learn how the game is played instead of plaguing a tournament with your cheesiness. I am here to see players worth watching.

The server quarantines some of your packets. Corona also spreads over the internet.. #PacketLivesMatter

If only car-gameplay wasn't a thing..

That's actually genius. Something fresh that is definitely fun for Spectators. Would be interesting if it happened. Keep up the creativity

Those are the same people who got sad when their nfases became less effective after pellet-scaling got reverted back, not every opinion is qualitative or worthy of consideration for a proper tournament. Although the APB-community is currently somewhat small, there are WAY more than enough people to participate in a proper tournament that has less-cheese than the usual. This is also a community-made tournament. It is not official & by no means needs to abide by APB's current overall state of balance. Since you have mentioned the snub-only competition, in the same light, those interested in cheese are more than welcome to host PMG-only tournaments for example.. Why did they not do that yet I wonder? Of course, because they KNOW it would be a joke. These kind of people just want to win and walk away, they don't care about having memorable moments or raising the general interest in community-held events. Nobody should cater towards those people as they are the same people who make every day APB boring. Carrying that boredom over to here would also make this tournament not special.

Nicely said, but.. Everyone knows that PMG is cheese and not worthy to watch (alongside few others). That alone is an indisputable fact. It doesn't matter what those who like the weapon may say in attempts to defend it. It is one of the easiest weapons in the game to use if not the easiest of all time. So far, no prize was discussed for the tournament so arguing about that is slightly ahead of time. While yes, striving for "perfect balance" makes things slightly more fair, it is not a requirement to give out prizes. You said it yourself, this is a "player made tournament".. It is not official & definitely needs to be worth watching. Else it'll end up being a mediocre, non-memorable event that is no different from what a regular day in APB looks like. That is why we are all here. At the present time, nobody knows what the tournament will be like hence this poll exists: "what would u like to see if there was a tournament in apb (fan made)". Way to go Captain Obvious. I did not ask for "perfect balance". All I want is to see Participants capable of handling non-braindead weapons and to see worthy moments of respectable game play. 11 out of 31 voting against weapon-sets is only 35% and is enough to make you consider this as the majority are interested to see something concrete. This very thread already contains people asking for a well-organized tournament with proper rules & weapons are no exception. Kindly investigate this or this tournament will just end up being another forgotten one that nobody would care to remember.

Why please those who wish to win a tournament with the easiest weapons there is? This isn't about "perfect balance", this is about getting something worth watching.

I would personally be interested to see brain-dead-weapons not being allowed. There is no achievement in winning with PMG nor that deserves any kind of championship-praise.

Facts

It was already proven that PIG + perc is slower than PMG's ttk. Not that it required any proof as the time to initiate a perc-throw is already equal to the PMG's ttk let alone the grenade's travel time on top of that but some people can't read stats.

I gave up at "Heyo! Long time player here..."

Facts

Corona evolves and apparently so does DDoS.

Comfeyer actually killed PacMan

The chrome skin got indirectly redone (stolen) and upgraded to the Sugar Plum Fairy Weapon Skin. Much easier to obtain, much better looking. It completely overshadows the chrome skin. Shoulda got it when you had the chance if you did not already.