LilyRain

Mobility for Assault Rifles as a whole got massively suppressed over the years (running & gunning, jump shooting, etc). With N-TEC, one must either be moving or still, can't do both. If you're planning on doing both simultaneously, you must be at kissing-distance, else you're sacrificing accuracy regardless 'and you should swap to a weapon that better suits the situation' (I don't fully agree with this but that's how the 'balancers' wanted the game to be, effectively making it so restrictive as of today to the point of imminent population death). This by nature doesn't count as a point for Scoped N-TEC alone. This is a global balancing restriction that should be changed across the board. Thanks I must expand a bit because Armas sells more than 1 variant of Scoped N-TEC. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My disagreement goes for Dvah and PR2: Dvah: Offers THREE open mod slots, a complete dream for new players because it would take ages for them to unlock crimslayer/copsbane (3 open slot regular n-tec). Even 2 open slots ('Adeen') will take them decent time (1500 total kills) with the prolonged matchmaking, low population and needing to actually score kills on veterans and cheaters. For a newbie, 1500 kills is a dream. PR2: Comes standard with both Hunting Sight 3 and Improved Rifling 3, pretty much set for life as far as N-TECs in general are concerned. The 3rd slot is just added competitiveness, something newbies won't even realize possible yet nor good enough to execute properly. So ultimately, with Dvah and PR2, a new player is most certainly getting returns on what they are paying for. Lasting 'permanently' if they are also interested in not paying for N-TEC leases every 10 days. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sadly, the most 'scam' variant is the [Scoped NTEC-5 RT1]. The long reload time from Extended Mag 3: While virtually harmless (the weapon without it already has enough bullets to kill 5 opponents) is objectively a bad mod to have on this weapon. What makes it a scam however is that the weapon is doomed to never have Hunting Sight nor Red mods. This weapon simply should not exist on Armas for every reason. And of course, the PR1. It is basically PR2 without Improved Rifling 3. An underwhelming purchase since it is doomed to have only 1 slot, strictly housing HS3 but it is still a short-term benefit for a newbie. HS3 entirely transforms Assault Rifles. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Incentive... This is pretty much the portion that I will never agree with and this is why I mentioned that Armas should become cosmetics exclusive. Let us not forget what "incentives" did to OCA&PMG vs OCA 'Whisper' PR. Made APB even more close range centeric when it wasn't even needed, shamelessly to sell that nonsense. They didn't even hide it.... "it was important to ensure that this gun still had a special function that made it feel distinct from the base model" they said while REPEATING the OCA ttk-buff as a CORE STANDARD from 0.7s to 0.67s [Source: https://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/news/2020/9/11/weapon-balance] The game got destroyed enough as is for way over a decade. Let us not give LO an excuse to make another guaranteed & exaggerated dumb-balance changes to continue repeating history for the millionth time.

While I do disagree, let's us pretend for a moment that is true. I'd say that is a good thing. Armas should only sell cosmetics moving forward. 'Nuuu, it isn't Pay2Win'. Too bad new players won't give a damn to study the game. They see gameplay elements being sold on Armas, they'll leave. Game is already a graveyard as is, it should stop increasing gravestones.

This is not true. Back in the day, threat was decided by simply winning/losing. You got a badly designed mission with casual/newbie randoms? Your threat will go down. Nothing you can do other than restart the game. This is why Clans demanded Gold players so much. Now, threat is score-based. You can stay Gold without winning a single match with the same casual/newbie randoms. Your individual score now matters. Clans are now nothing but an extended friend list.

Can't blame the man for a good time, free of charge.

While GTA 6 got delayed till June of next year, I doubt the complainers will realize the basics before then let alone say something remotely correct about how balance should be.

Nice try. You didn't even do the most basic of research. "Publish your news properly" in your opening post couldn't be any further from the truth. All you had to do was look at the latest AMA as well as the roadmap. Those contain LO's "strategies". Yes, they are underwhelming and insufficient but that is what you are looking for. Again, your thread is pointless so you don't get to play the "please read" card. You didn't read yourself.

Still a contradiction since your VERY thread is about "reviving" APB. When you call for "not act like APB Reloaded was ever a major title that was killed or anything."... then why are you making a thread about reviving it? lol.. The only stupid thing here are your takes. Only someone who was living under a rock would even make such a pointless thread in the first place.

Self-contradiction right there. Of course, APB was never FIFA or Call of Duty but going down from those numbers to the current PEAKS (sub 500 players on EU, sub 160 players on NA) most certainly counts as killing APB's playerbase. Even for those that didn't feel like playing, at the very least, socializing in Social was a thing to do all day. Now? If you're in social, you're literally wasting power. Better off attempt mining some crypto. YES, the game was killed to the point where Live Servers are currently the Open Test Servers. Anyone who says otherwise is simply not living in this timeline. +Those peaks are factually half since many Players run around with multiple characters. So it is even worse.

Your opinion is based on a blatant lie. Not worth reading.

Let's see here, 11 people. According to you, 11 comments represent 170 NA players + 420 EU players + God knows the # of those watching the game till it gets better by some sort of a miracle. And since you mentioned vsb, he also says: "anyone whining for a ttk nerf without any buffs in exchange just straight up doesn’t understand balance". This is a direct response to your cries about 'Secondaries should be inferior to Primaries, unconditionally'. So that 11 goes down to 10 at the very minimum. It is very apparent who is the "child" here.. You bluffed against factual stats from APBDB, FAILED and still continue to argue against what is set in stone... So you resort to an even more useless, petty level. Nice try, you failed again. Have fun learning to click better than an average .45 user. Best of luck.

- No. Be glad the better players are fans of the Colby .45 because you will have no chance against them otherwise. This naturally includes Cheaters as well. - Again, I care about facts as proven prior. Emotions and opinions have no place in an objective discussion. - There were no "most", speak for yourself.

'I was proven wrong so I'll claim to stop responding, proceed to further respond and play victim'. Believe what you will, let's see how many believe you.

That is something to be grateful about. At least there is a chance vs a Cheater using .45. What will you do if Cheaters decide to aimbot and speed-teleport with OCA, JG, CSG, N-TEC, SHAW, Euryale, Carbine, N-FA 9, etc...?

If only those special districts have the waterfront northern section unpatched, so we get to phase out and drive on water again. Good old times.

You must be talking to yourself because that is literally that. Speak for yourself. As small as the playerbase is, it is in the hundreds while you and your gang can be counted on one hand, 2 max. You're done.

You are basically Little Orbit in a parallel timeline. Yes, perfect solutions are simply not achievable. That does NOT mean it is okay to move to a worse place. It is not a motivation/reason/excuse. What do you think the latest attempts with SARD and prior to it, the open-source-for-developers Easy Anti Cheat were? Exactly that... they were attempts to 'detect' Cheaters. ------------------ My friend, LO CAN'T DETECT. They ended up false banning so naturally they'll end up false kicking as well. Cheaters will figure out how to bypass ban/kick Triggers within only 1-2 hours after whatever LO comes up with goes live, period. So ultimately, you'll only piss off actual players by getting them kicked. You won't affect any Cheater with this.

Thank you for asking genuine questions. I don't function with opinions, I only care about objective facts. Opinions have no real place where facts are already established. To name a couple, factually, you should know that FR0G 'Kokoe' PR1 & N-FA 9 "Quickdraw" PR1 are unquestionably far more objectively useful in a serious disgusting-loadout vs standard Colby .45. Those that can't tell why should keep their 'opinions' in their pockets. Both are available PERMANENTLY in the Joker Store for roughly the same price as Colby .45, which a free-2-play player can get by... simply existing. And the logic of 'Secondaries shouldn't compete with Primaries' is outright nonsensical. Else, let us have N-HVR kill faster than every secondary in the game, just because 'it is a primary weapon'. Like, no, that's just not the way. What "investment", 3000 Joker Tickets? lol.. The problem is that the "complaints" about .45 being "OP" are simply... false. lol like... if the weapon was out of line, we would've spoken about it before you, thanks.

As far as the 'opinion' of 'Secondaries shouldn't be as strong as Primaries' is concerned. Even if we agree to that (which I don't), Colby .45 is NOT the most busted secondary weapon in the game. I'm afraid that argument is blown out of the water.

That has its own downsides as well. Cheaters will get kicked. Then, they will keep trying till they know how to effectively not trigger the anti-cheat. Then we're back to normal. They'll continue cheating without getting kicked.

You're automatically a fool for thinking nerfing .45 is the way forward.

Another massive mistake. Standing is not the same is running and gunning. You won't be typically "standing" in a real match. You'll be running, that's why it is called RUN MODIFIER. Your basic example doesn't factor in that Colby .45 has a x1.5 modifier from that example while 'Whisper' with RS3 actually improves by x1.01. "What means nothing" is the accuracy of a weapon in close range when it SIMPLY kills slower. Use your head please. Thanks for your input but I encourage you to learn the game before you remotely think you are qualified to make balance suggestions.

Big mistake.. The only point here is that you have no clue to what you are blabbing about, trying to deceive the masses on something you clearly did not research. Here, I'll make their accuracies when running crystal so there won't be any further lies: OCA-EW 626 'Whisper' PR2: (Accuracy Radius at 10m: 34 cm) x (Run Modifier with RS3: 0.99) = 33.66 cm at 10 meters. Colby .45 AP: (Accuracy Radius at 10m: 20 cm) x (Run Modifier: 1.5) = 30 cm at 10 meters. Percentage difference: |33.66−30|[(33.66+30)2]×100=|33.66−30|[(33.66+30)2]×100 =|3.66|[63.662]×100=|3.66|[63.662]×100 =3.6631.83×100=3.6631.83×100 =0.114986×100=0.114986×100 =11.4986% difference So congratu-fucking-lations, you're making a 10% difference seem like 70% just to try and persuade LO into a nerf. Perhaps.... GET IN YOUR OPTIMUM RANGE. It is baffling to even think that in APB out of all games, it is somehow difficult to close the gap with all the car-gameplay/wall_hugging that clearly dominates the game. ----------------------- Yeah, yeah, let us add another weapon to the pool of 'too far to compete'. You yourself said that you wanted to see other secondaries BE USED MORE. You're contradicting yourself. You don't even know what you want nor the implications. You're just moving back and forth on a reactive nerf agenda just because better players screwed you over with Colby .45. Don't kid yourself, the same players would've killed you with weapons that can literally neutralize faster than Colby .45. Either way, you will achieve nothing from this.

OCA (0.7 s ttk) and JG (0.67 s ttk) "easily" lose to a 0.8+s ttk weapon in close range..............? Thanks for sharing but the only correct thing you have mentioned is that Colby .45 has a 0.8 ttk.

Sadly, one cannot post video proof in here, but an entire group took the concept of "Cheat Points" quite passionately, LOL!

Agreed People seem to always forget that with how slow Little Orbit is, every seemingly 'small request' is a major time loss towards actually making the game better (if that's ever on the priority list to-do list).