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Wouldn't be the first time, second, or third time an anti-cheat unfortunately mistook something legitimate (or at least not harmful to the game itself) as a problem. Can't imagine it would hurt for them to at least look into it briefly. Right there with you on that. Hopefully you all get an answer on what's going on soon. Even if that just winds up being confirmation that the bans were legit.

Bit impressed that this has reached open testing. I know APB is a layered mess of spaghetti code, and I honestly didn't think this would pan out as a result. I still don't exactly agree with the approach however. Yet if it works then so be it. Hope the rest of testing goes smoothly. Been a long road to get this working and I'm sure there's people that can't wait for this to reach live.

Regardless that does still seem to be the most common public opinion. People haven't seen much in the way of forward momentum in the live service. Then what has been does is tainted by things like the APB IP being sold off to a no-name Chinese company. I get that the guy is trying to turn around the game. I truly do, but I also get why people are upset. What they see doesn't look good. Even if progress is being made behind the scenes. Rarely does a customer care that there's a good reason for shit hitting the fan. Which I'm betting makes things a living nightmare. Having a good public image for any online service is crazy important. While a lack of one only serves to hurt things more, but LO isn't going to right that ship until he gets something out the door I'm betting.

Good intentions. Poor implementation of 'em. I don't think they are bad people by any stretch. Just got in over their heads with APB:Reloaded.

Thank you for doing this.

Awesome news! Got a lot of questions about all of this, but for now I'm just plain happy.

I have REALLY been missing Fallen Earth. Used to play it on and off all the time! Was a fun yet flawed game that I just couldn't get enough of. Was all kinds of sad when the shutdown was announced for it. That said I'm not entirely sure how well a game like FE will have aged. My guess is that it would be a very, very, very, very niche game if it came back. Then again who knows. The MMORPG market is about as stale as it can be. With people desperate for something new or different to play. So there's always a chance it'd work out. Monetization would have to be handled VERY carefully though. People are getting fed up with the typical cash shop shenanigans you see everywhere now. Hopefully we hear more about this soon!

Didn't they basically start over with a chunk of it? I wouldn't expect much in the way of news for a while. Though I am curious to hear more about why they couldn't use the previous stuff that had been worked on. There was a playable and functional build in testing for a long time. Admittedly it was broken in a number of ways. However it didn't quite seem like it was insurmountable to fix. Which I guess wasn't the case.. which is also why I want to know more about what the heck went wrong with it!

100% with you. That just sucks for both sides imo. In that situation it's more fun to grab crazy setups that don't work all that well. Have a little fun. Ease off a bit. It's a chance to be dumb. Not floor some poor silly person that doesn't waste as much time on the game.

Been begging for this since they first tested the damn things. They were initially supposed to be "rewards" for doing missions and all that. Which makes absolutely no sense. They are just tedious and beyond irritating. Just plain easier and better as mods. Simpler to deal with balance wise too. Begged for some rare guns, cars, skins, etc instead of that garbage. Even if they are just leases it'd still be more rewarding if that's still the goal. I mean there's the old unused OG fight club guns yet + some other rotting content. Some of which were never perm to begin with so no harm done. Toss in a couple of possible items - short leases being more common with a super rare chance at a perm or something and boom. Better system for rewarding people imo. What's with the sudden change from everyone on this though?

Yep. This is definitely that will happen.. nothing bad.. nope..

I don't know about that. APB has always had desync problems to some degree. Especially way back when Gamersfirst (old G1 that is) first started trying to improve the engine. Something went horribly wrong with that and caused all kinds of problems for a while. Not sure it ever got fully resolved honestly.

Even though I'm still a bitter a-hole at times about not being able to contribute in any fashion anymore... I disagree. He made some decisions that didn't pan out. From our perspective that may have been "clear" to us, but he was doing what was the best bet at that time. It didn't pan out. Now he's trying something else as a last ditch effort. No need to rub salt in the wound. We don't really have a dog in this fight outside of being fans/players of the game. Meanwhile he put a lot of time, money, and who the heck knows what else into trying to turn around the game we like.

Was thinking the same. Doesn't really matter that much with how prevalent discord is. Let alone the fact it is typically preferred to in-game options by a mile.

Kinda-sorta agree. I think the way they've chosen to address balance problems didn't properly encompass player behavior and actual usage of items in the game. This isn't the first time they balanced based on some arbitrary numbers without looking into the broader picture on why something is the way it is within the title. Let alone the first or even second team to work on APB that has done this. Long as they manage to learn some important information from the screwup then whatever I say. Quite clear that at this point they've seen the divide between players on it. More a matter of what they do after this. Besides everyone makes mistakes. I'm more annoyed with the seemingly glacial development of this title.

Is what it is. If something eventually releases then great, but otherwise yeah things have been rough for ages. Everyone here knows it. Can we just stop already? Gets really boring reading the same stuff 5,000 times over. Fun-fact: Firefall isn't likely to come back. The current owners of that IP don't want to part with it despite seemingly zero plans to do anything with the MMOFPS or the supposed mobile title that I don't think ever saw the light of day.

Have to agree. Always been the odd one out when it comes to legendaries and only fallen further behind as newer stuff came out. Wonder if they couldn't take the lazy route and try something simple like a different take on the medusa mod for it. Would kinda work, maybe.

Would be neat if we could pull people out of cars like we can with random NPC's. I have no idea if that thought pertains to this thread in any capacity at all. Nor if it would be feasible, or let alone something actually good and/or fun for the game. Just a random thought I felt like spewing out. Enjoy.

Still wish they were just regular items. I still don't understand how they are "rewarding" to this day. The whole consumable thing has been a miserable failure that continues to stick around for some absurd reason.

It was bugged at one point in time. Allowing for it to be purchased using only 10,000 APB$. They since fixed the bug so it is back to costing joker tickets like it was supposed to be. My best guess is they let people keep it who bought it when it was bugged. Which is why he still has one I imagine.

It doesn't work at the moment. The anticheat won't let it far as I'm aware.

Hasn't exactly aged well is all. That plus the regular delays on practically everything aren't helping matters. I think things would be going a lot better if there were some bigger fancier changes. Old game can keep going okay-ish for a looooong time if they are maintained & regularly updated. I just don't think APB makes enough money to justify such a risky investment. I mean here on APB we've got a dated engine, poor balance (I mean, lets be honest, it's pretty rough and always has been), same maps as always, no shakeup to core gameplay loop, no secondary/fun timer killer type things to do, etc. The same old broken boring map is the one that really gets me. Also: having gameplay focused around exploits ain't good for a games health. One or two that help raise the skill ceiling are fine, but APB is a total mess of weird awkward janky nonsense that is awful to experience. APB has a solid chance of chasing off any non-veteran players with absurd ease. In short: I kinda agree. APB is an old house with the roof caving in, interiors rotted out, and the foundation is crumbling. It can definitely be fixed.. but I don't know if it's worth the effort at this point.

Credit to you guys. This is such a neat project. Happy to see it's still going! Midtown is one of those districts I always wished I could've seen for myself. Used to even have some images of it way back. Sadly those are gone and even if I did have 'em I'm not sure if I could share those. There's some absolutely fascinating and beautiful unreleased areas from APB's earlier days. I mean, look at one of the old building interiors that sadly never was: What I'd give to have them go over some of those older areas & districts with us players.

Yeeeeep. It isn't just about trying to get better performance. There is a competitive advantage to doing things like that which is why they are so popular. I personally just don't care about anything but it looking good and performing well. But, I get why all kinds of crazy tricks are done when they yield such easy benefits. Most I do is admittedly play around with some things I probably shouldn't, but I don't dip below 100fps (rare exception or two) and average 132fps+ according to AMD performance monitoring. With no notable stuttering to speak of. All while looking like I'm playing on all maxed out settings. So, yeah. I get why everyone tweaks crap. Kinda just part of APB if you want to get the most you can out of it. Even if some of the things people do you technically aren't allowed to. In my case it's just to get the damn thing to not stutter, seemingly drop frames, and not generally perform badly on high end hardware. Others are doing it to make guns not handle so freaking weirdly, have things stand out better while making the game also not run like garbage, and other such things. Like what you mentioned. Which I'm not a fan of.. but I get it. To keep on topic: cheaters suck. APB has a few sadly. LO seems to be trying their best to find an anticheat that can do what they need without some crazy drawbacks/problems. About all you can ask really.

Bunch of old SPCT pushed heavily for that back when they were testing the damn things. Was super vocal about it myself. Just didn't see it going over well. Yet they thought it'd be better to leave them the way they are now. Even with the pushback from most saying it was a bad, bad plan. Kinda crazy to look back at now. Heh. Anyways I'd rather they just be perm. I view them as "visual" mods. They have a model associated with them or effect that could be monetized. Alternative appearances and the likes with the base ones just being a thing that exists. Would also let them expand out a bit with what they could offer up for holiday rewards. Would rather they just put in rare "jackpots" of JT, APB$, or some old un-used gun variants, maybe car unlocks, etc. Could even use something like short duration of armas/JT guns to really flesh out the pool. Anyway I'll quit whining and trying to pitch old ideas (..how many years ago was that? ._.). Especially since I'm 99% certain no such system is currently in place to allow for them to easily setup modifcations with alternate appearances. Well.. maybe. Don't recall much, but there's always a slim chance they could be configured in a manner similar to that of weapon variants. Aaaaanyway now I'm shutting up.