Can ex-cheaters really go legit?

[LilyRain 671]

Just now, Lign said:

Maybe they just had a better soft Kappa 

Gottem.

[yood 345]

I can't judge LO . business is business . am I happy ? I don't care . banned once and banned the second . many teenagers play a game that do not want or can not grow in a psychological sense .  people never change 

[iRawwwN 282]

ye they can depending on their ego - source; me

 

most good cheaters are just really good players with a little extra 'ompf'. - source; not me

 

Edited April 19, 2019 by iRawwwN

[TecH EU2 33]

It is not in our nature to change character past a certain age. The values you where brought up with will stick, if you have a cheater mentality than that is your nature, you can't change that.

 It is not only in a game, it is just life.   

 

The only time i've seen ppl change personality is trough a life altering experience, ppl who came near death, lost a partner, child,... real trauma.

 

 

So No, cheaters do not change.  

Edited April 19, 2019 by TecH EU2

[Ichinose 64]

want an easy solution to end cheating in apb?

 

Here you go:

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Remove or Nerf Colby 45 AP

Remove or Nerf OSCAR NFCP3

Remove or Nerf Joker SR15 Carbine

Remove or Nerf Obeya CR715

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[indi 175]

imagine thinking changing gun balance would alter whether someone is botting or not lol

[vsb 6171]

8 minutes ago, vsonyp0wer-xyz said:

want an easy solution to end cheating in apb?

 

Here you go:

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Remove or Nerf Colby 45 AP

Remove or Nerf OSCAR NFCP3

Remove or Nerf Joker SR15 Carbine

Remove or Nerf Obeya CR715

========================

you’re gonna have to explain this one 

 

i really hope it’s not as stupid as i think it is

[Ichinose 64]

3 minutes ago, BXNNXD said:

you’re gonna have to explain this one 

 

i really hope it’s not as stupid as i think it is

Reduce the fire rate so those macro hacking eThots cant really no us that easily.

[vsb 6171]

31 minutes ago, vsonyp0wer-xyz said:

Reduce the fire rate so those macro hacking eThots cant really no us that easily.

yup, it was exactly as stupid as i thought

 

thanks hoss

[RandomCatface 16]

You can kind of get that answer from rerolls and x/y/z known cheat infested clans. It's simply Yes and No.

[AsgerLund 1271]

Yes, ex-cheaters can really reroll legit. No, far from all rerolling cheaters reroll legit.

2 hours ago, TecH EU2 said:

...if you have a cheater mentality than that is your nature, you can't change that.

And this is absolute horseshit.

[LittleMoneyFirst 66]

17 hours ago, UubeNubeh DaWog said:

Yes, it depends on their drive "win".

Regardless of how good they actually are, if their drive to win is astronomically high they're prone to falling onto cheating if hit with a player skill wall.

 

That being said, the drive to be "good" and the drive to "win" is not the same thing.

Thats a good read coming from a person with experience about it.

 

Whats ur drive then?

3 hours ago, indi said:

imagine thinking changing gun balance would alter whether someone is botting or not lol

Example: jump shooting with nhvr. They broke it because they cant stop cheaters. "Its a good change nhvr was op", and thats how the game started going downhill.

I am going to say this again... remember when ducky jumpshot was removed and ppl kept doing it because they cheated?

 

Thats how cheaters ruins everything in a game and there shouldnt be "second" chances and such but combat them non stop.

Edited April 19, 2019 by SillyBear

[CookiePuss 5378]

24 minutes ago, SillyBear said:

Example: jump shooting with nhvr. They broke it because they cant stop cheaters. "Its a good change nhvr was op", and thats how the game started going downhill.

I am going to say this again... remember when ducky jumpshot was removed and ppl kept doing it because they cheated?

 

 

(dear Mods, this is nicer than posting the words.)

 

 

Edited April 19, 2019 by CookiePuss

[Nevv 49]

29 minutes ago, SillyBear said:

Example: jump shooting with nhvr. They broke it because they cant stop cheaters. "Its a good change nhvr was op", and thats how the game started going downhill.

I am going to say this again... remember when ducky jumpshot was removed and ppl kept doing it because they cheated?

Always wondered how things like the Salem witch trials could've happened, but after browsing the forums for a while... I can totally see how they happened

[swindIe 120]

what a thread

[UubeNubeh DaWog 136]

4 hours ago, SillyBear said:

Thats a good read coming from a person with experience about it.

 

Whats ur drive then?

Personally, my drive is to be "good", as per my definitions, i don't really care for the standards of others. I set a goal and work for it, once i reach that goal i set a higher one. Over the 11 years of gaming experience I've had you can reasonably estimate the level of my current goals.

Any particular person i kill, beat, defeat, whatever, is just another number to me. Even then i believe in quality > quantity.

Edited April 20, 2019 by UubeNubeh DaWog

[Fortune Runner 796]

8 hours ago, SillyBear said:

Example: jump shooting with nhvr. They broke it because they cant stop cheaters. "Its a good change nhvr was op", and thats how the game started going downhill.

I am going to say this again... remember when ducky jumpshot was removed and ppl kept doing it because they cheated?

 

Thats how cheaters ruins everything in a game and there shouldnt be "second" chances and such but combat them non stop.

Please tell me you are not serious about this

[Westford 167]

I suppose one might ask if there is any truth to the old adage;

"The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior"

 

Who knows ?

 

 

 

 

 

[Fortune Runner 796]

16 hours ago, vsonyp0wer-xyz said:

want an easy solution to end cheating in apb?

 

Here you go:

========================

Remove or Nerf Colby 45 AP

Remove or Nerf OSCAR NFCP3

Remove or Nerf Joker SR15 Carbine

Remove or Nerf Obeya CR715

========================

Those suggestions have nothing to do with cheating , only your personal issues with those guns.

[TheJellyGoo 343]

I would say it's a case of the exception rather than the rule.

Can cheaters become legit? Sure, some do but the majority won't.

Relapses are very likely due to the reason for their cheating being a deep-seated issue in their character.

To admit would be the first step most already fail at. The excuses that haven't changed in decades are still the same.

Their explanations followed by contradictions since they can't keep track of their own lies disprove any shred of honesty. 

APB has proven it all over the years. Just check the Steamprofiles of most of those cases and they will have VAC history too.

 

[Flight 239]

I have removed the section in the OP describing the players, without directly mentioning their name. I did not hand out any warnings.

I would usually note this to the user in private, but I figured it would be relevant for others who may be tempted to write posts or threads of this nature.

 

Discussing topics like this is fine, but making detailed indirect references to the players you are talking about, in order to bypass forum rules, is not.

If you believe a player may still be cheating, please do report them so that we can investigate the matter.

https://support.gamersfirst.com/hc/en-us

 

Keep the thread clean please

[Deadliest 385]

53 minutes ago, Flight said:

I have removed the section in the OP describing the players, without directly mentioning their name. I did not hand out any warnings.

I would usually note this to the user in private, but I figured it would be relevant for others who may be tempted to write posts or threads of this nature.

 

Discussing topics like this is fine, but making detailed indirect references to the players you are talking about, in order to bypass forum rules, is not.

If you believe a player may still be cheating, please do report them so that we can investigate the matter.

https://support.gamersfirst.com/hc/en-us

 

Keep the thread clean please

thai cheaters 

[Ichinose 64]

4 hours ago, Fortune Runner said:

Those suggestions have nothing to do with cheating , only your personal issues with those guns.

Uh Disagree. Cheaters are most commonly banned with those weapons in their hands. Which wants to say something

 

if a cheater is using it, it must be too op. And it is.

 

The only counter for a OSCAR user is to take an OSMAW / AAEPD Volcano

 

then he will start flaming u 

[MartisLTU 265]

On 4/19/2019 at 3:21 AM, Hiaro said:

Do you think past cheaters can truly change and play completely legit now and even be really good at the game while clean?

“Oh I doubt that. Give us common folk one taste of power and we’re like the lion who tasted man – nothing is ever so sweet again” – Lord Varys

[vsb 6171]

50 minutes ago, vsonyp0wer-xyz said:

Uh Disagree. Cheaters are most commonly banned with those weapons in their hands. Which wants to say something

 

if a cheater is using it, it must be too op. And it is.

 

The only counter for a OSCAR user is to take an OSMAW / AAEPD Volcano

 

then he will start flaming u 

better nerf the fbw too then, i bet more cheaters have been banned with an fbw equipped than any other gun

 

balancing your game around cheaters is flat out stupid, you’ll only end up putting your legit player base at even more of a disadvantage because (pro tip) cheaters don’t care how weak a gun is when they can land every shot and outmaneuver their opp