BoomLion 46 Posted December 6, 2018 ok hi look noone has said what ive asked so many time .... "how hard is it for them to lock GOLDS to gold server ??? "im asking is it hard to do" real gold players wont care about being locked to gold....long as they got people to fight ... this would free silver up for silvers... "so how hard would this be to do " if theres a post about this allready im sorry.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted December 6, 2018 Not enough gold players to form a full gold server. Not enough silver players to form a silver server. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_chain 176 Posted December 6, 2018 No. I think I made a few better suggestions for when the game gets more players. Until then it should stay as it is right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iRawwwN 285 Posted December 6, 2018 hi u probably dont remember the time RP tried that and then we lost a lot of players then we got the Gold Rush event and then after those players left too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RCooper 182 Posted December 6, 2018 I mean rn if the threat stay the same doesn't matter the engine upgrade the game will die There are way more than enough people to full a silver server the problem is that thanks to gold it would be impossible to form a bronze district because there aren't enough new players to play between them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269 Posted December 7, 2018 G1 tried this once, the community cried, G1 reverted the change (and this was with a higher population) Been there, done that. No thank you, we don't need a repeat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neophobia 216 Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) On 12/7/2018 at 12:43 AM, RCooper said: I mean rn if the threat stay the same doesn't matter the engine upgrade the game will die There are way more than enough people to full a silver server the problem is that thanks to gold it would be impossible to form a bronze district because there aren't enough new players to play between them and not enough golds to have a functioning gold server (or max 1 so you'd have to decide between fin/wf) to begin with. golds leave, skill shifts lower, some silvers become gold, suddenly can't play, leave. flawless idea. not to mention that golds cant play with their (new) friends because they'd rather not play against better enemies so they'd either play alone or the golds downrank. doesn't work, was tried before. shambles. On 12/6/2018 at 9:25 AM, EvoTron said: ok hi look noone has said what ive asked so many time .... "how hard is it for them to lock GOLDS to gold server ??? "im asking is it hard to do" real gold players wont care about being locked to gold....long as they got people to fight ... this would free silver up for silvers... "so how hard would this be to do " if theres a post about this allready im sorry.. also, there are hundreds of post about this. threat segregation, lock districts, you name it. it's easy to do and it's quite dumb to do. more reasonable ideas were to kick/lock people out of bronze (permanently?) after ever reaching gold. Edited December 8, 2018 by neophobia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoomLion 46 Posted December 8, 2018 Yes if u gain gold u should be banned from join bronze ever again.. u want to play with mates who just started.. make a new char.. its not hard.., then once they know how to play u get your big boy/girl out an show them how to play v real players xd 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowie 3 Posted December 8, 2018 if every gold will go to gold district than the district will be full already the excuse that it's not enough golds to play on gold district is stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted December 9, 2018 why is this in Guides, Tips and Strategy when its a Game & Forum Suggestions thread? anyways its been answered before how there isn't enough player base to pull that off also not all golds would have gold normally in gold district especially with how mission objectives can get more points than kills matchmaking and mission points need to be reworked to show a players true skill which is what Little Orbit is planning to work on after the Engine Upgrade Until then however segregating players would only make us lose more playerbase and would not be a good idea 2 hours ago, Bowie said: if every gold will go to gold district than the district will be full already the excuse that it's not enough golds to play on gold district is stupid have you actually played in silver? not as many golds as you think 14 hours ago, EvoTron said: Yes if u gain gold u should be banned from join bronze ever again.. u want to play with mates who just started.. make a new char.. its not hard.., then once they know how to play u get your big boy/girl out an show them how to play v real players xd if a gold dethreats and makes a bronze get carried to silver threat then should he be forced to play in silver? gotta be fair about this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowie 3 Posted December 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Fortune Runner said: why is this in Guides, Tips and Strategy when its a Game & Forum Suggestions thread? anyways its been answered before how there isn't enough player base to pull that off also not all golds would have gold normally in gold district especially with how mission objectives can get more points than kills matchmaking and mission points need to be reworked to show a players true skill which is what Little Orbit is planning to work on after the Engine Upgrade Until then however segregating players would only make us lose more playerbase and would not be a good idea have you actually played in silver? not as many golds as you think if a gold dethreats and makes a bronze get carried to silver threat then should he be forced to play in silver? gotta be fair about this yes played yesterday on waterfront I played around one hour and a half and I saw 3 silvers and bronze and the rest are only golds just in a one hour and half the amount of golds I saw is enough to make more than half district in gold district but there are more golds than that if just any gold really want to back to gold district it has already happened Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted December 9, 2018 golds in bronze are either dethreaters who are exploiting to troll bronzes or silvers who are not good enough to play against golds who can possibly go gold from being in bronze normally there's 2 to 3 full districts in Jericho server among all the players and that's counting all districts. While it may look like we can just toss golds in gold district some of them are only silvers who either became gold from matchmaking being broken , being carried to gold status , a silver who is borderline gold from being in bronze but can probably become bronze from not being good enough to play golds , or dethreaters who definitely shouldn't be in bronze until matchmaking is fixed to represent a players true skills then threat will highly not be accurate of a players true skill. what if you turn gold from being carried? That wouldn't be fair to toss you in gold district just like that. Also most of the time there are not enough golds on to be in gold district which is why golds go to silver and silvers get forced into bronze. Little Orbit mentioned plans for fixing matchmaking but I do not recall where the thread is to link it to you. until matchmaking is fixed , it is not a good idea to force golds to gold district because some are not real golds they are only silvers who shouldn't be gold but matchmaking is broken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InspiriaHelix 4 Posted December 9, 2018 Generally speaking, Golds that purposefully dethreat aren't true Golds. The standard for becoming Gold is so low that if a Silver player plays against enough Bronze they can easily become Gold. Perhaps there should be, simply, no threats - or at least make threats not control which district you can go in. Redoing what G1 did will literally kill the game, I know I won't play if that happens - just like I stopped playing in 2015. Just saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesruul 16 Posted December 10, 2018 Lemme explain something. Dethreating was NOT a thing until the old Gamersfirst implemented the threat lock system for districts, like others have reiterated. When that happened, people found out that dethreating was possible, and thus did so. The problem with this, is that they didn't stop dethreating when the system was disabled. You can lock a gold to a gold district, but if he were to start doing incredibly bad in the district, then he's going to drop down to silver/bronze. You're asking for what has already been tried. There's not a big enough population of players for a simple bronze/silver/gold categorizations for the game to match up players to fight against. You have to take in the future effects of this kind of stuff, especially if it's already been done ONCE. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Latsha 71 Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) On 12/10/2018 at 5:46 AM, Caesruul said: You can lock a gold to a gold district, but if he were to start doing incredibly bad in the district, then he's going to drop down to silver/bronze. That's why LO should consider various punishments to these people in the future, this is an issue that paralyses a player growth because people think the game's unplayable and boring due to constant losses. I never understood these people. Instead of focusing on increasing their skill they just limit themselves to playing against newbies, quickly draining newbies' interest in the game. Edited December 16, 2018 by Latsha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesruul 16 Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Latsha said: That's why LO should consider various punishments to these people in the future, this is an issue that paralyses a player growth because people think the game's unplayable and boring due to constant losses. I never understood these people. Instead of focusing on increasing their skill they just limit themselves to playing against newbies, quickly draining newbies' interest in the game. The problem with this is, how will the system detect them as dethreating? Player reports? Highly unreliable due to human nature being very volatile. Some kind of algorithm? Maybe, and maybe after the engine update-priorities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaQuandra 91 Posted December 17, 2018 Hi. They tried this before....back when the game had a larger population. The gold servers were dead, not because golds wanted to avoid those servers, but because there are simply not enough gold players on at a given time. Your suggestion has been tried. It didn't work. Time for a new suggestion or I dunno, play the opp you get and try and be better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenton 210 Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 8:25 AM, EvoTron said: ok hi look noone has said what ive asked so many time .... "how hard is it for them to lock GOLDS to gold server ??? "im asking is it hard to do" This has been suggested before, many times. You may care to look here, here and here. Also discussed here, and here and here... there's more to be found via a simple forum and/or Google. Matchmaking has also been discussed by Matt Scott CEO; here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted December 19, 2018 full delirium. some adjust the rules for themselves to be the winner always . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpuzvaBob 92 Posted December 19, 2018 Moved thread to correct section. -Spuzva 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnEGod 10 Posted January 7, 2019 On 12/6/2018 at 10:25 AM, EvoTron said: ok hi look noone has said what ive asked so many time .... "how hard is it for them to lock GOLDS to gold server ??? "im asking is it hard to do" real gold players wont care about being locked to gold....long as they got people to fight ... this would free silver up for silvers... "so how hard would this be to do " if theres a post about this allready im sorry.. We need gold just one server with balance matchmaking and gold rewards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xegethra 22 Posted January 8, 2019 In theory it would be nice, lots of ideals exist in theory. One idea I had was to lock them in their own district, and all their characters also get locked to it. If they have lower threat friends then their districts are open to everyone, but not every district is open to them. It's kinda like that now but dethreating sort of makes it unworkable. And you have fake golds who get gold, but can never hold onto it, would be a bit of a shame to lock them out like that. The best idea, even though the playerbase is low....is to just have no threat districts, at all. So everyone gets to play together and their is a bigger range of skill in a room to match up with. Dethreating will be a thing still, but it's better than nothing. Just get rid of threat and put players against each other based on numbers instead maybe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VickyFox 353 Posted January 8, 2019 All I'm going to say is server populations. If you think there is a limited number of players now, imagine when everyone is locked to their threat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShaiShai 130 Posted January 9, 2019 On 12/6/2018 at 6:35 PM, iRawwwN said: hi u probably dont remember the time RP tried that and then we lost a lot of players then we got the Gold Rush event and then after those players left too. we still havent recovered since that loss, locking districts wouldnt work now too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted January 9, 2019 Only segregation should be for Ts and Greens who can duke it out in the tutorial district, they should also be warned from entering any other district to protect them even further also those threats should never be dethreatable to once players go Bronze and above. All the rest should be in the one pot on the one server with improved matchmaking to make individual matches more fair but drawn from a greater pool of players. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites