Lign Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) Obeya and obir with ir3 are going to be a new meta with 82m of effective range with percentage system and ntec with 60m range is so huge for the most popular gun in the game Edited October 21, 2018 by Lign
NotZombieBiscuit Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 You are not very good at reading are you? 1
Lign Posted October 21, 2018 Author Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: You are not very good at reading are you? What did I miss?
HighSociety Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 there was no percentage on old IR... just 3, 5, 7m
Lign Posted October 21, 2018 Author Posted October 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, HighSociety said: there was no percentage on old IR... just 3, 5, 7m yes, but as far as I know they want to keep percentage
HighSociety Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Lign said: yes, but as far as I know they want to keep percentage who said this? can u give link or quote pls? Edited October 21, 2018 by HighSociety
SpeedyCat Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lign said: yes, but as far as I know they want to keep percentage 2 minutes ago, HighSociety said: who said this? can u give link or quote pls? exactly, but only until they release other downsides^^ You can read here: Edited October 21, 2018 by SpeedyCat 1
Lign Posted October 21, 2018 Author Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, SpeedyCat said: exactly, but only until they release other downsides^^ so, obeya and obir will be broken. minttk 80+m is coming
SpeedyCat Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lign said: so, obeya and obir will be broken. minttk 80+m is coming No, the slower firrerate downside will be removed. and only the range buff will be kept.
Lign Posted October 21, 2018 Author Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, SpeedyCat said: No, the slower firrerate downside will be removed. and only the range buff will be kept. I mean, it will be so op. +15% +3m is so much for obeya
ShaiShai Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Lign said: I mean, it will be so op. +15% +3m is so much for obeya so first you say its broken, so they revert and now its op make up ur dam mind 2
vsb Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, ShaiShai said: so first you say its broken, so they revert and now its op make up ur dam mind they only reverted half of it
ShaiShai Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: they only reverted half of it still, people wanted it reverted, so lo gives in and reverts it (even if you say its half, its still a revert) and now the community still complains and say its overpowerd
CookiePuss Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, ShaiShai said: still, people wanted it reverted, so lo gives in and reverts it (even if you say its half, its still a revert) and now the community still complains and say its overpowerd Surely you dont think the same people who wanted it reverted are the same ones complaining now that it has been?
ShaiShai Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, CookiePuss said: Surely you dont think the same people who wanted it reverted are the same ones complaining now that it has been? no i don't think that but just a little weird that people were complaining that it was broken then when lo actually did something about it now its all the sudden overpowered , i mean the patch isn't even out yet (not to my knowledge correct me if im wrong as even with the changes to ir before and after, i couldn't shoot for shit) and people claiming op
vsb Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, ShaiShai said: still, people wanted it reverted, so lo gives in and reverts it (even if you say its half, its still a revert) and now the community still complains and say its overpowerd because now the mod that was already a free upgrade has gotten buffed this is the exact same situation we were in when orbit reverted the upside of improved rifling and left the downside for 2 months, it’s like they learned nothing
Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ShaiShai said: no i don't think that but just a little weird that people were complaining that it was broken then when lo actually did something about it now its all the sudden overpowered , i mean the patch isn't even out yet (not to my knowledge correct me if im wrong as even with the changes to ir before and after, i couldn't shoot for shit) and people claiming op Put it like this: The ntec does max damage up to 50m before dropping off. Which sounds more broken. A ntec doing max damage up to 57m or a ntec doing max damage up to 60m. Bare in mind they both have the old downside of Improved Rifling (which in case you didn't know, did nothing) Edited October 21, 2018 by Weeb TheEpicGuyV2
DouglasFalcon Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 APB is gonna be unplayble until they find a good way to balance IR3 out. I'm out until I see a good solution lol, I fckin hate NTEC and OBEYA already and I dont want to see them getting even stronger
Lign Posted October 21, 2018 Author Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, DouglasFalcon said: APB is gonna be unplayble until they find a good way to balance IR3 out. I'm out until I see a good solution lol, I fckin hate NTEC and OBEYA already and I dont want to see them getting even stronger 60m ntec and 82m obeya oof
Fur Posted October 22, 2018 Posted October 22, 2018 wait theyre are keeping the percentage base on IR3 still? WHAT THE FUCK I was excited that they were reverting IR3, but now I am not. That sounds like a bunch of guns are going to be TOO good now. As VSB said, LO learned nothing from last time
Lign Posted October 22, 2018 Author Posted October 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Fur said: wait theyre are keeping the percentage base on IR3 still? WHAT THE FUCK I was excited that they were reverting IR3, but now I am not. That sounds like a bunch of guns are going to be TOO good now. As VSB said, LO learned nothing from last time I don’t understand them. They admitted their mistake but keeping doing the same again
Frosi Posted October 22, 2018 Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ignas / qsn said: just stop... these constant changes to mods are getting annoying. Noone has ever complained about mods before LO and now it's a complete mess. One side wants them back, another wants them completely ruined. Pretty much this. Reverting the downside but keeping the current upside is a horrible idea and will make the range meta even stronger, I really hope they consider reverting it entire mod so we're back to IR3's usual +7 meters effective range aswell rather than 15% + 3 meters. Edited October 22, 2018 by Frosi 1
TheDogCatcher Posted October 22, 2018 Posted October 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Ignas / qsn said: just stop... these constant changes to mods are getting annoying. Noone has ever complained about mods before LO and now it's a complete mess. One side wants them back, another wants them completely ruined. Totally agree, It's like they can't accept that their bad idea was bad and so they give in partially but they still can't let go completely. Honestly if I was in charge of LO I'd be giving the balance guy his marching orders, this person obviously has no idea what they are doing . The big problem with messing with mods is that they can have so many potentially unexpected consequences due to the wide variety of weapons they can be used on, so without an intimate knowledge of all weapons in the game it becomes really easy to screw things up, this should be bleedin obvious to anyone doing this kind of work.
BlatMan Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 All semi-auto rifles range were reduced by 5M. Even with the IR range buff, they all have about 1M less range with IR3 than previously. However, all automatic rifles received a slight range buff, and the LCR got a ttk reduction. Congrats, all you people complaining about IR on the N-TEC just buffed it.
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