Pillowlol 86 Posted September 27, 2018 I was watching youtube when a video about another game that I play popped up and while watching I saw this: We really need to fix our image 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PunkStrider 16 Posted September 27, 2018 apb doesn't need at all the only p2w thing in this game is only premium since it halves active skill cooldown. imho 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DouglasFalcon 125 Posted September 27, 2018 People who think APB is P2W are eiher complete strangers to the game, or complete noobs that have to make up for their lack of skills by blaming something else. Sounds harsh but it's the truth. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nite 261 Posted September 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, DouglasFalcon said: People who think APB is P2W are eiher complete strangers to the game, or complete noobs that have to make up for their lack of skills by blaming something else. Sounds harsh but it's the truth. Easy for us veterans to think that but we also spent a ton of time to really learn what is what in this game. Not all new players will be so willing. APB isn't P2W but it does a poor job of expressing that with the unclear weapon stats, altered coloring of weapons and whatever else. We need that to be changed. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lign 361 Posted September 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, Nite said: Easy for us veterans to think that but we also spent a ton of time to really learn what is what in this game. Not all new players will be so willing. APB isn't P2W but it does a poor job of expressing that with the unclear weapon stats, altered coloring of weapons and whatever else. We need that to be changed. The problem is that it's nearly impossible to make new and good weapon for the game cuz we have all variations of all type of weapons. Cosmetic things, at the current state, is the best thing can be implemented in armas imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pillowlol 86 Posted September 27, 2018 I know its not (really) p2w (except for a few things) but for outsiders its looks super p2w. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JungleFlaco 10 Posted September 27, 2018 Yet again and again and again.. People claiming APB is Pay To Win just shows how no f*cking idea they have about the game. /Drops the Mic and leaves, again.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMessiah 430 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) i play dirty bomb since CB but game is about to die (no news updates like from a month) Edited September 27, 2018 by TheMessiah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JungleFlaco 10 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TheMessiah said: i play dirty bomb since CB but game is about to die (no news updates like from a month) Once the big meat (Core) is done, they just remain on minimums.. Happens a lot among NOT AAA companies. Edited September 27, 2018 by JungleFlaco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Lign said: 2 hours ago, Nite said: Easy for us veterans to think that but we also spent a ton of time to really learn what is what in this game. Not all new players will be so willing. APB isn't P2W but it does a poor job of expressing that with the unclear weapon stats, altered coloring of weapons and whatever else. We need that to be changed. The problem is that it's nearly impossible to make new and good weapon for the game cuz we have all variations of all type of weapons. Cosmetic things, at the current state, is the best thing can be implemented in armas imho. no flash bangs or animations yet. would definitely change game play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshi 436 Posted September 27, 2018 Everytime i see APB = P2W the only thing P2W about this game is the cooldowns being 2 instead of 4... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foolish ninja 59 Posted September 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Lign said: 3 hours ago, Nite said: Easy for us veterans to think that but we also spent a ton of time to really learn what is what in this game. Not all new players will be so willing. APB isn't P2W but it does a poor job of expressing that with the unclear weapon stats, altered coloring of weapons and whatever else. We need that to be changed. The problem is that it's nearly impossible to make new and good weapon for the game cuz we have all variations of all type of weapons. Cosmetic things, at the current state, is the best thing can be implemented in armas imho. look at warframe. They still add lots of new weapons, even tho they have more than hundreds of weapons already. Game just needs more free content. Especially weapons. My suggestion would be to add all weapons from events to everybody, including newcomers. Then add an option where you can buy permament guns for in game cash, and lots of new weapons for cash. Because right now, every content that has been added was trough ARMAS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted September 27, 2018 If APB is P2W I should have 200% win rate with how much I have spent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartisLTU 265 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) This days gamers are worst ... If they dont get all the best items at game beginning it must be P2W, if they get all the best items at beginning its boring and unbalanced. If game have only few weapons to chose from, game is boring ,but when game have tons of weapons ... players will play with only few meta guns. Edited September 27, 2018 by MartisLTU 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lato 188 Posted September 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Nite said: APB isn't P2W but it does a poor job of expressing that with the unclear weapon stats, altered coloring of weapons and whatever else. We need that to be changed. This ^ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5377 Posted September 27, 2018 Pay2Advance in the ability to buy 3slotted weapons and top tier vehicles on day 1 rather than grinding. Pay2Advantage with the orange character mod cooldowns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VickyFox 353 Posted September 27, 2018 The perception of the game being pay to win isn't reflective of the reality... but it also has to be noted that it is no surprise that this image isn't helped by GamersFirst's pricing of armas with so many reskin/remesh variants of already existing content. Little Orbit has a bit of work to do to, and part of that work is to change the perception of the game by showing that this is new management that does take customer service seriously. Constructive criticism is always welcome but this thought of APB being pay to win, full or cheaters, with mod or caring staff is nothing new. without sounding harsh, we have been aware of the problems for years and Little Orbit has been here for what... under 3 months? If you don't have any new suggestions (or any) then try not to put things down so much as staff are working hard with the intention to address... practically everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DouglasFalcon 125 Posted September 27, 2018 5 hours ago, foolish ninja said: look at warframe. They still add lots of new weapons, even tho they have more than hundreds of weapons already. Game just needs more free content. Especially weapons. My suggestion would be to add all weapons from events to everybody, including newcomers. Then add an option where you can buy permament guns for in game cash, and lots of new weapons for cash. Because right now, every content that has been added was trough ARMAS. Are you Stalin under disguise? Go easy with the communism my dude, LO has to make money somehow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hexerin 1140 Posted September 27, 2018 All these people that have no clue what "pay to win" actually means... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infinit3Fairl1ght 39 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) How dare this guy call my precious APB P2W!!!1 I will... I will... Yes, that's it! I will DAB on that ugly hater! Yeah! Jokes aside, who frickin cares. What is and isn't P2W is what you decide for yourself. Edited September 27, 2018 by Aurora_Valis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EMilika 41 Posted September 27, 2018 5 hours ago, CookiePuss said: Pay2Advance in the ability to buy 3slotted weapons and top tier vehicles on day 1 rather than grinding. Pay2Advantage with the orange character mod cooldowns. Payto get advantage is p2w idiot. Like i said Condor Yukon etc is pay2advancewin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted September 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, EMilika said: Condor Yukon etc is pay2advancewin what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5377 Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, EMilika said: Payto get advantage is p2w idiot. Like i said Condor Yukon etc is pay2advancewin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bellenettiel 232 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, PunkStrider said: apb doesn't need at all the only p2w thing in this game is only premium since it halves active skill cooldown. imho i am going to use my radar jam to suffocate you with my anime collection. TO DEATH. watch out free to play gamers 14 hours ago, Nite said: Easy for us veterans to think that but we also spent a ton of time to really learn what is what in this game. Not all new players will be so willing. APB isn't P2W but it does a poor job of expressing that with the unclear weapon stats, altered coloring of weapons and whatever else. We need that to be changed. Doesn't help that there is a huge confirmation bias and paranoia culture on the game too There is genuinely no point in coloring weapons differently, the only measure of rarity, on apb, is on Joker boxes. Edited September 27, 2018 by Bellenettiel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites