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What's this topic even about? My brain got fried trying to read the posts. I'm pretty sure the game code is vulnerable to hacks right now. I'm also pretty sure MattScott and Lo team are working to make an engine upgrade fix and private anticheat and have the people who know what they're doing to work on it... if they don't they game is dead. If they do it will make them some money. I for one will be thrilled to invest in an APB reboot on a new. improved engine. Hopefully all the weaknesses of the game we suffer through right now are helping the team develop the improvements we need.

There is such a tiny playerbase... and those who continue to play will be "ignored" because they're not worth listening to... So are you actually saying there are no cheats in-game anymore? I mean, if the playerbase is daily writing about a problem with cheaters... and there are problems with BattLEye being bypassed.... but LO should ignore these concerns as worthless... well... sounds like people such as YOU want the game to die. There's another huge problem with skill levels, and premade gold dethreaters who tryhard troll the bronze districts daily, for hours, relentlessly, preventing any actual new players from coming into the game. I'm sure many of them are wrongly perceived by the lesser skilled players as "cheaters" when they really aren't. But if someone encounters a match with cheaters... and we can spot them, often trainee accounts the go ballistic and get super high scores with seemingly no effort and wreck everybody, including golds... and then for the next two hours matches the hardcore high rank trolls... it is going to create the impression that cheating is endemic to this game. So, what should LO do about it? IGNORE everyone's sincere concerns or that they take the time to post them? Some of it is a matter of perception. A reputable business would intervene and ask WHY are some players having this perception about our game and what can we CHANGE to save it before it's done. But IGNORE? Well, that's a guarantee of failure to keep that tiny population isn't it. I hope you aren't working for this company because this is the kind of arrogance that will destroy this game... or what's left of it. Not to mention your forum hostility to other people's genuine opinions right or wrong.

The people who desperately deny the obvious cheats are worthless to the new company. It's sad to see the old cheater fanbois circle around MattScott and LO and giving them a load of bad advice.

The entire game client is compromised. No anti-cheat system is going to actually work until the engine upgrade. Innova's proprietary anticheat and in-game GMs who spectated the game was the most effective iteration of APB... they did a lot of things right, lower subscription, lower Armas prices (well their version of Armas), gun mods that people enjoyed, even giveaways. No system is perfect, but that came close. The best we can hope for is a new coded game in conjunction with a good anticheat, and some proprietary protections to the files and perhaps some random in-game GMs to spectate the suspicious. If they do that, this game just might come back to life.

Technically speaking, they are doing everything humanly possible by slowly working on the engine upgrades. Nothing can be done to prevent or even minimize hacks in an already compromised game client. We have to wait until the game is recoded, then the old coded hacks will not work, and hopefully some stronger safeguards to the game files will be introduced. Given this is a small population game, the time and cost for coding new hacks would be very expensive, and thus far fewer. No one can do anything,,, except wait. At LEAST LO had the right plan. Upgrading the game engine is the ONLY thing that can save this game. At least they've kept it open for us to play, aggravating as it is, it's still an awesomely fun game at times. The game is broken, we all know this. LO invested in a broken game with the intent to fix it. That can't be an easy task with a small studio. Just wait until they actually fix the game before you blame them for something already broken.

lagswitch hekler chets... or however u say it in Brazilian. Actually it's not really a cheat, it's a exploit some players use. There's been a few videos showing it but they get deleted because of name & shame so w/e. It does exist in game tho, but it's not particularly common... some categories of players seem to use it more cough* Br.

Bout time. This is actually the best news yet. G1 hardware.

LMAO wish I had seen it. Would have made my day.

Since the Threat Segregation Patch.

Their gimp I got the nunavut myself. It always runs out of bullets on me and kills me. That being said, there is a way to use them... if someone is already shot (big hint) they make a wonderful finisher.

K. Are you even slightly familiar with what closet cheating is? It's when the cheats are toggled on and off to give the impression of legitimacy. Silver cheaters? Sometimes there are even trainee cheaters. How can this be? It's called rerolling a new account to cheat on for a bit and then delete. APB has had paid hacks available to it for many years, and some of the most dedicated players have coded private cheats for this game. BE doesn't make those cheats obsolete if they can work a bypass and still inject them, and toggle till the goats come home. And BTW that video was a cheater showing how easy it was to be kicked for third-party programs and make a new account and continue the same as before. If you think the video of him getting kicked by BE was a joke, or that rerolling is just "aw shucks don't believe everything on the internet I was just fooling" you're not terribly bright. A common misconception spread by hack companies themselves (yes you can read their forums) that hacking means invincible or only rage-hack god-tier. The very basis of a closet cheater is to play under the radar and evade detection or suspicion. As a result most people if they are looking for MrEpicGoat lvl of blatant cheating, won't see anything at all. The fact there are no health hacks allows us to know that hackers when taking enough damage will die. Someone who is killed isn't "not hacking" anymore than someone who may not have turned on their esp can be flanked, although his triggerbot lock may still be on, so that his aim and ability to get kills is higher than average. And on some who tend a bit more blatant and a little less closety, that kvd ratio is quite out of the norm.

I believe this is what originally led to MrEpicGoat.

DM you the links? Wha? Have you assigned yourself the role of official support moderator? Use a search engine, it's not hard. I played on Cheatadel last night, and I can assure you, there's some sketchy players out there. What you're saying here amounts to denial and minimization. I do sincerely hope the LO staff would rather google BE bypasses and have their team take a look for problem areas then listen to a guy like you. The fact that cheat companies are making videos of their trolling shows how poorly informed you are... or how deliberately dumb you're pretending to be... the quality of the cheater fanboi crowd from the old days. If you want to get to the point of the video, fast forward to 3:04 where he is kicked by BE for using a disallowed program. He then went on to make a new character and make two more videos where his blatant cheating simply continues. BE can be bypassed. BE cannot stop rerolling cheater accounts. Our problems haven't really changed with the implementation of BE and our hope is going to be a more secure game with the upcoming Engine Upgrade... but even then because of a FTP game and rerolling cheaters... it won't ever go away. So you never saw a cheater or suspicious player? LMAO, sure. I certainly have, every night there's a couple.

I think the only solution at this point is going to be the Engine Upgrade, with certain anticheat measures as well as locking off the files from player editing, and detection for edited files. While nothing can be completely free of cheats, APB has notoriously been easy to hack. Hopefully as LO tends to the game, this endemic exploitation and bypassing will be a thing of the past. But blanket denials that these kind of things exist are... not credible imo. So a multi-billion dollar cheat industry is simply "lying" about their techniques for bypassing anticheat systems? Haha okay. The whole point was to show that a variety of cheats and exploits have existed in APB for a long, long time... and that someone who claims they never saw something fishy is probably not being real. Just my opinion. As you mention, yes a lot of things are outdated and patched... WHY? because it's a battle between profitable cheat makers and anticheat services. Just saying APB sorely needs an engine upgrade with some resistant to cheat things built into it, as the original APB was so virginally naive... and easily exploitable as it remains to this day.

Is that why hack sites all have forums discussing how to disable the BE in processes? I mean I googled to see if it could be that easy and apparently it is. There are also some very devious ways involving purchasing a signed driver to mask the cheat engine. Soooo, do hackers use this to hack our game? You betcha. Playing "dumb" doesn't make it go away, in fact exposing it should allow the LO team to get right on it. Because we haven't had the weird "glitch" where an enemy's icon is right close but when we go there, he isn't, he's 1/2 way across the map ya?

Sure.

Can you pls buff the SBSR rifle + sniper (coronor + IRS) as they are nice niche guns but subpar TTK versus the current meta (HVR-DMR-Scout). Or at least buff the stun-hard dmg on the IRS? They are awesome fun guns but not competitive... and they certainly should be simply a variant of already good guns, not a weaker stepson that no one ever uses.

You missed out on MrEpicGoat then. He taught the APB community what the term shawcopter means.

While not impossible, someone going 24-2-4 is a bit sketchy. In a perfect world players who perform "too good" consistently out of norm should be spectated periodically.

Hehe pro;;y not, but it was fun imagining it might be Matt and watching his lil cute bronze noobness tryna open the car door.

She did once ban a guy for using the fart emote on her in Social, and justified it based on him having been a reroll previously banned, as "ban evasion." Just goes to show how corrupt and inconsistent G1's policies were. Anyway my take on all this is cheaters gonna cheat, BE can be bypassed thru paid programs temporarily, and cheaters gonna reroll. The HOPE for this game is coming in the planned engine and coding upgrades which will make all kinds of current cheats obsolete... and being a small player base, newer cheats will be hella expensive and therefore rare. Since everything is changing, the sorta general amnesty and acknowledgment of false bans was totally appropriate. Everyone has a new chance.... but the playing field won't be completely fair until the major fixes are underway. hopefully the fixes make the game great and bring back population.

I played a match with guy who claimed he was one of the co-owners. If it was true, it was probably Matt. he was also Bronze

Your whole position is denigrating anyone who would accuse such a thing, and flip it on them, they are bad, they don't know how to use semi-auto guns. The net result is a blanket DENIAL which amounts to the same thing. YOU need to chill... and stop insulting other players integrity for telling the truth about macroing, the dirty little secret of APB for years... Anyone can check the internet, these "sites" have had APB "macro" script offerings going back to 2012 and sold as part of "cheat" pkgs. ------------------------ (Just a quick internet search... oh looky, all those exact guns you were talking about...) [Release] Macros for APB (X7) - ....CheaTs First-Person Shooters › All Points Bulletin This macro really simple. It for all semi-automatic guns in apb. Better use for Joker SR 15, STAC-10, Obeya FBV, Colby .45 AP, Joker RFP-9, ... [Release] Macro aka rapid fire (64bit & 32bit) Updated [Release] AUTOCLICK (RAPID FIRE) MACRO [Release] Multi use macro, (tested on apb:r only so far [Tutorial] How to: Abuse the Joker Carbine without macros/scripts ... FINAL AUTOCLICK (RAPID FIRE) MACRO - MPGH Semi-Auto weapons rewarding players with macros An Autoclicker It's a macro that auto clicks your mouse when you hold the button. ... It will make a pistol or a semi-fire weapon into an SMG! ... APB Reloaded or any games wont be able to tell if it's a macro or not Apb Reloaded MACRO - Downloads - OldSchoolH-k - Game Hacks ... Downloads › All Points Bulletin- It for all semi-automatic guns in apb. Better use for Joker SR 15, STAC-10, Obeya FBW, Colby .45 AP, Joker RFP-9, OBIR. This is fastest macro.

So wouldn't the simple fix just be investing in a couple of new "real" servers?

Threat segregation failed. LO needs to reroll the entire threat system that G1 put in the game fundamentally altering something that was never broken and directly resulting in the toxic dethreating and noob stomping. All districts should be open to all players, as they were initially... only the matchmaking should account for players actual threat and rank and player-style over time, providing much more accurate matches... so those stacked pro gold teams who steamroll through bronze could no longer as they would only get matched with other stacked gold teams of closer to equal performance ability... and one high ranked gold could sometimes match a bronze army of 10 players... this was how fair things used to be.