MattScott 15242 Posted June 13, 2019 Hi everyone, Just a quick note to say that yesterday's patch accidentally included the ability for players to drop their weapons when dying across all districts. Essentially we created a new flag for this feature that is a core part of RIOT, but that flag wasn't turned off on the other district types. This was not intended, and will be removed on the next patch. For those players that like this feature, I think the context of my decision is important. This topic was discussed a lot with the SPCT, and in the end I agreed with the position that choosing a strategic loadout is a fundamental part of APB, as it forces players to choose wisely and lean into specific play styles. The addition of dropped weapons trivialize some of those choices, and has the potential to reinforce gameplay we don't want to see. However now that we've seen this can actually happen, do you guys want this feature left on for Fight Club? Thanks, Matt 13 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StunStick 140 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) Don't add nonsense to Fight Club. Adding weapon drops has been requested in the past but it doesn't work well in this game. Edited June 13, 2019 by StunStick . 13 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Cashpoint 269 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) @MattScott Will this feature be removed from Action Districts? I know you allude to it in your post, but just to get a concrete answer. Edited June 13, 2019 by Lord Cashpoint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevkof 806 Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, Lord Cashpoint said: @MattScott Will this feature be removed from Action Districts? This was answered. Yes it'll be removed 9 minutes ago, MattScott said: This was not intended, and will be removed on the next patch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Cashpoint 269 Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, Kevkof said: This was answered. Yes it'll be removed I appreciate that - I presumed that's what he meant, I just wanted an absolute confirmation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OvermoderatedForum 71 Posted June 13, 2019 I was confused by this because it wasn't in the patch notes. So thank you for clarifying and I don't want the world to see me, cause I don't think that they'd understand. When everything's made to be broken, I just want you to know who I am Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHidden-Tember 142 Posted June 13, 2019 eh, I like this in mission districts T.T It completely removes the "your gun is P2W" excuse and allows for fun situational loadouts. It's nice to have a vote for Fight club, but could we also have a vote for mission districts @MattScott ? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulexos 26 Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, TheHidden-Tember said: eh, I like this in mission districts T.T It completely removes the "your gun is P2W" excuse and allows for fun situational loadouts. It's nice to have a vote for Fight club, but could we also have a vote for mission districts @MattScott ? the best compromise would be to have districts with weapon drops and also ones without them like before, but yeah, not gonna happen because of the population size and servers costs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slvyt 72 Posted June 13, 2019 I might be fine with it in fight club but it depends how much it changes the feel of it, like if it feels more chaotic then no. but if you do want to go down this route i suggest doing a trial for a week to get peoples opinions on it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulexos 26 Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, TR3NT said: I might be fine with it in fight club but it depends how much it changes the feel of it, like if it feels more chaotic then no. but if you do want to go down this route i suggest doing a trial for a week to get peoples opinions on it. seconding this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swft 356 Posted June 13, 2019 I like polls, LO should've done one for RIOT too. Back on topic: No, dropping weapons should just be on modes that actually depend on this mechanic. Fight Club doesn't need this, unless you're planning to make it a practice mode for people to test out other guns that they don't have. Either way, that should be a separate mode from FC imo. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kewlin 692 Posted June 13, 2019 I'm not gonna' lie, the only time I ever pick up someone's weapon is so that I have two magazines to dump before needing to reload: grab someone's NFAS, unload it, drop it, unload your own NFAS so you have 14 rounds almost continuously, it's cheese as fuck. Weapon drops, at least the way they are in APB, are bad and quite honestly shouldn't be in any mode, much less FC. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clandestine 390 Posted June 13, 2019 I won't vote because I didn't visit fc since 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattScott 15242 Posted June 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, TheHidden-Tember said: eh, I like this in mission districts T.T It completely removes the "your gun is P2W" excuse and allows for fun situational loadouts. It's nice to have a vote for Fight club, but could we also have a vote for mission districts @MattScott ? No. While I also liked the idea of eliminating the P2W complaints, this isn't the way to do that. We have a number of things coming for regular mission play, but it's very important that we preserve how the main game plays. 11 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted June 13, 2019 nah no weapon drops except in riot 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StunStick 140 Posted June 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, MattScott said: No. While I also liked the idea of eliminating the P2W complaints, this isn't the way to do that. We have a number of things coming for regular mission play, but it's very important that we preserve how the main game plays. P2W complaints are going to happen regardless because people are stupid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolpack 99 Posted June 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, Kewlin said: I'm not gonna' lie, the only time I ever pick up someone's weapon is so that I have two magazines to dump before needing to reload: grab someone's NFAS, unload it, drop it, unload your own NFAS so you have 14 rounds almost continuously, it's cheese as fuck. Weapon drops, at least the way they are in APB, are bad and quite honestly shouldn't be in any mode, much less FC. you know that this weapon drop system is different from the one we had before right? this one completely overwrites the gun you are holding, by actually replacing the gun in your hands, so you can swith between guns and use it as if its your own, rather than having 2 primary guns at once many people dont seem to realize this 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iRawwwN 282 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) I voted no, as a daily FC player. It's a dumb fucking mechanic, it does not need to be anywhere else than the other dumb fucking RIOT mode. (both garbage additions to the game btw) RIOT is a mess. How can you push such a BROKEN game-mode to the live servers? You've been working on this for months and it is garbage. We're suppose to believe that 3.5 will come out soon, with the only proof that you can do anything being ... RIOT... lmao Edited June 13, 2019 by iRawwwN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurboBRCrim 29 Posted June 14, 2019 what's the point of buying premium weapons then? @MattScott i could just steal them from other players and play with them, bad decision imo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukate 13 Posted June 14, 2019 Big nono to weapon drops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadKarma 0 Posted June 14, 2019 In mission districts ill take a hard pass on weapon drops, in fightclubs, maybe. FC feels fairly detached from regular missions and is a whole lot of crazyness anyways so, maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmer 49 Posted June 14, 2019 I mean its not like you tested this at all.... #sarcasm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farbon Ciber 65 Posted June 14, 2019 Fine with it, except for legendary and loyalty weapons. People have spent a great deal of money to obtain these. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yood 345 Posted June 14, 2019 I have not considered such a proposal . first think need to . Just now, Farbon Ciber said: Fine with it, except for legendary and loyalty weapons. People have spent a great deal of money to obtain these. the chance that you will kill your own weapon in the fighting club is not great . maybe low silver , bronze will have a chance to get their 200 JT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kewlin 692 Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Rolpack said: you know that this weapon drop system is different from the one we had before right? this one completely overwrites the gun you are holding, by actually replacing the gun in your hands, so you can swith between guns and use it as if its your own, rather than having 2 primary guns at once many people dont seem to realize this I did not, as I have not logged in, thanks. Still, I really don't see how it fits in FC well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites