MethLab 27 Posted July 3, 2018 Now I've been told so many guns are just reskins or hybrids of others but some guns i seem to do so much better with its reskin or its base vs its reskin or base. For example, i have such trouble with the N-tec, but as been told its reskin is the CR-5 which i do so much better with. Another example is the Whisper vs the OCA and i do so much better with the OCA. Color me crazy, or maybe its just instance by instance, but I think the sound of the gun and imagination of my character using that gun makes me better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caesruul 16 Posted July 3, 2018 With you on the CR-5/Ntec thing. I can do well with the NTEC, amazing with the CR-5, but the Sword just turns me off so much because whoever thought it'd be a good idea to make a brick shattering on concrete into a gunshot apparently didn't think it through too much. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5382 Posted July 3, 2018 Placebo is strong. For me the placebo effect goes Ntec > cr5 > Sword Makes no logical sense, but its there nonetheless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LUST 215 Posted July 3, 2018 Aesthetically pleasing sounds and even looks (depends on user) can give a placebo effect. You are at your best when you feel the most comfortable. Mute all the sounds, video compare, or even if someone was able to potato the weapon model completely...they are the exact same. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zolerox 564 Posted July 3, 2018 My han Veo feels faster with the coywolf kit on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshi 436 Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) cr5 recoil pattern is different than ntec and for me the ntec is easier to control the carbine and the stac 10 is a reskin but my hitreg with the stac10 is so nonesxistant that i can wreck much harder with the carbine Obeya and clr762 and spartan are the same, i still feel like sometimes the clr762 is more accurate. atac....well its an atac u dont even have to aim lol... JG does 80 upclose while csg and tasz20 is 55 if i'm not mistaken but the tasz and csg has a longer range than JG(bulletspread) but i feel like the tasz20 does me way better than the csg and jg. The strife does 85 but u gotta be lucky. NVHR and PSR the same quickswitch +85 unless you using the silencer one depending your range after 90m the damage will lower. Scout/pathfinder same +55 Shaw and medusa/euryale If you can handle the switches and quick recoil handling(usually having the muzzle) you good OCA/C9Wasp/Stiletto well closerange spray and pray PMG/Bolt ezGuns Other guns i didnt mention are irrelevant and weak and needs a buff because people barely use those primaries Edited July 3, 2018 by Keshi Forgot the OCA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted July 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Keshi said: cr5 recoil pattern is different than ntec ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uru! 50 Posted July 4, 2018 8 hours ago, MethLab said: Another example is the Whisper vs the OCA and i do so much better with the OCA. the whisper and the oca are different weapons anyways yes most people experience placebo effect with reskins i loathe the sword, harrier, and bolt personally which sucks because i love how the ump looks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spudinskes 41 Posted July 4, 2018 Doesn't the Whisper have less recoil? Can someone confirm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nickyan 13 Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Spudinskes said: Doesn't the Whisper have less recoil? Can someone confirm Yes, silencers reduce recoil. Not that it matters as the gun has barely any recoil to start with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fur 87 Posted July 4, 2018 All Ntec skins suck compared to ntec All HVR skins suck compared to HVR STAC 10 scope is best Carbine skin Otherwise all reskins seem equal on placebo effect. I don't play worse or better depending on the reskin besides the ones i mention above. I guess I just like the base weapons lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MySodium 29 Posted July 4, 2018 Placebo is too strong on the n-tec. I suck so much using a CR5 or a VAS-R2 and do amazingly well with the stock skin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TackoGirl 130 Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) try to play with no sounds Edited July 4, 2018 by TackoGirl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VickyFox 353 Posted July 4, 2018 14 hours ago, MethLab said: Another example is the Whisper vs the OCA and i do so much better with the OCA. I face palmed so hard that I think I might of broken my nose. It is the same gun but did someone forget about the preset Suppressor mod that is built into the Whisper? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5382 Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Spudinskes said: Doesn't the Whisper have less recoil? Can someone confirm 1 hour ago, VickyFox said: I face palmed so hard that I think I might of broken my nose. It is the same gun but did someone forget about the preset Suppressor mod that is built into the Whisper? The Whisper has less recoil and greater range than the standard OCA and greater range than the OCA SD. The Whisper is NOT an OCA reskin. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninetenduh 40 Posted July 4, 2018 You just learned a valuable lesson. How placebo works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B0N3EZ 2 Posted July 4, 2018 14 hours ago, BXNNXD said: ? +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lato 188 Posted July 4, 2018 Play with no audio, you'll do just as good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zolerox 564 Posted July 4, 2018 The silencer plays the sound twice placebo works when you actually hear 2 shots instead of one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kino 1 Posted July 4, 2018 Whisper and OCA are different btw. And coming from someone who thinks HVR is in a fine place balance wise, I'm not really surprised lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KyoukiDotExe 231 Posted July 4, 2018 22 hours ago, MethLab said: Now I've been told so many guns are just reskins or hybrids of others but some guns i seem to do so much better with its reskin or its base vs its reskin or base. For example, i have such trouble with the N-tec, but as been told its reskin is the CR-5 which i do so much better with. Another example is the Whisper vs the OCA and i do so much better with the OCA. Color me crazy, or maybe its just instance by instance, but I think the sound of the gun and imagination of my character using that gun makes me better. I think the sound helps. I used to be like CR5 over NTEC but now I actually reverted. Could be just a small placebo thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Defibrillator 132 Posted July 4, 2018 Ntec 5 and Ntec 5 stock are totally different as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted July 4, 2018 How weird, i miss ntec and i do better with ntec than cr5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spudinskes 41 Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Nickyan said: Yes, silencers reduce recoil. Not that it matters as the gun has barely any recoil to start with. That combined with longer range I would definitely consider an advantage over the oca since the the falloff damage greatly decreases over a small distance Edited July 4, 2018 by Spudinskes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harley Quinn 15 Posted July 4, 2018 it's placebo caused by the sound. i do great with the vas because i can tap better according to sound. same with cr5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
