weapon balancing should be your top priority

[Fortune Runner 796]

17 minutes ago, Amberwind said:

The whole point of my title was to make fun of the fact that they have been focusing on making events that somehow manage to break some of the core gameplay mechanics of the game rather than focusing on trying to fix the game. Two examples of the game breaking due to these event updates are;

 

1. The "Destroy" objective on shopfronts in certain missions now require you to ram them with a car, or else the mission won't progress.

2. The HUD markers (teammates, spotter, enemy makers in DM) disappear randomly for certain people, and a restart of the game is required to fix it.

we asked for the events and other new content so that's the community's fault not Little Orbits

20 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

... You aren't helping. 

cant make a cake without breaking a few eggs *shrugs*

[Kempington 295]

I like when these threads show up. It's a good indicator of how comfortable people are playing against meta weapons, but when suddenly another weapon is used effectively by someone that they're not used to, it's a problem and needs to be "fixed".

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong about the NFAS. I just think people have been too comfortable with the OCA dominating those ranges. Realistically, the NFAS gets completely shafted outside of 10m. I'd honestly say just try to play safer and space the NFAS out properly. Yes, that won't always be the case, given the scenario at hand, but if you've got corners, the JG will have an easy time against the NFAS.

 

I find the CSG and JG are great instant damage ambushers, whereas the NFAS is a corridor sweeper. (I'm surprised no-ones talking about how the DOW "Thumper" is basically the same thing as the NFAS, but with a 13m 3 shot kill range with practically the same TTK...).

[Syzus 23]

Weapon balacing should not be a priority now, engine upgrade is super delayed and we need new content ASAP

Edited January 8, 2019 by Syzus

[lZackl 9]

I think a lot of people stopped using the thumper when the shredder was buffed Kemp.

Edited January 8, 2019 by lZackl

[vsb 6171]

48 minutes ago, Jazeker said:

And kinda on-topic, someone recently did ask me "why isn't there a contact- or even Armas- version of something like the Joker FW launcher?" Got me there... it's pretty cheap to trade / buy one from someone though.

you unlock the flare gun from from aletta cadagan (level 6 iirc), and there’s also a variant available from the jt store

 

[Jazeker 1082]

14 minutes ago, BXNNXD said:

you unlock the flare gun from from aletta cadagan (level 6 iirc), and there’s also a variant available from the jt store

 

Oooh... Aletta (and Gumball)!? Whoops, checked the <195s. Of course, of course, they had to make it +195 ...

 

Anyway cool I'll tell them right away, thanks! And even a JT store ...  didn't check the JT store at all. They could use that one for now.

 

 

 

 

[Fortune Runner 796]

Want ninja star cookies for grenades to throw at cookie to weapon balance

Hes a cannibal anyways so he will try to eat them and die

then make video clip of it for  APB NEWS! and then show the world

 

that

       APB players

                         are nuts

 

[neophobia 216]

1 hour ago, Amberwind said:

 

1. The "Destroy" objective on shopfronts in certain missions now require you to ram them with a car, or else the mission won't progress.

 

you do know that you can/were able to also just shoot them

 

(? not sure if they broke that too, didn't even know it was broken)

[CookiePuss 5377]

1 hour ago, Kempington said:

 

(I'm surprised no-ones talking about how the DOW "Thumper" is basically the same thing as the NFAS, but with a 13m 3 shot kill range with practically the same TTK...).

 

1 hour ago, lZackl said:

I think a lot of people stopped using the thumper when the shredder was buffed Kemp.

I assume its just not easy enough for the "hold mb1" crowd. 

[neophobia 216]

1 hour ago, Amberwind said:

 

2. The HUD markers (teammates, spotter, enemy makers in DM) disappear randomly for certain people, and a restart of the game is required to fix it.

same happened in dota currently after you've played the event gamemode. they must've stolen code. the indie devs at valve obviously.

 

nah, weird. hasm't happened to me either. didn't see that in the bug report forum either

 

 

ah fuck i betted my posts would merge so i didnt have to deal with the new quote bs on phone...

 

but... yeah. nack to op - no, it shouldn't be. nfas is basically in the same state as it was for the last few years, it is just not ridden with hitreg issues anymore though. and even then, it is a strong gun in very very close range, but... letting an enemy get that close is on you.

 

ifit only happens to you on attack - try prenading corners close to the objective - even if it wasn't for nfas or shotguns, cornercamping is an issue with many weapons. (and tps games in general, just saying)

Edited January 8, 2019 by neophobia

[TheOppositePolarBear 93]

LO: *furiously focusing on fixing the game code,  revamping the engine*

players:

2 hours ago, Amberwind said:

they have been focusing on making events that somehow manage to break some of the core gameplay mechanics of the game rather than focusing on trying to fix the game.

LO: "..."

 

1 hour ago, NikkiCasinoKnows said:

Just remove all weapons except ntec.

 

Who needs any viable counter-tactics in a game anyway? Nobody that's who. And hey if we could get aim-assist on that ntec the whole game will be balanced.

nuuuuu me N-tec too OP plz nerf all butt snub rewolver

 

1 hour ago, LoveForMatt said:

I gOt KiLlEd By A gUn PlS neRf

 

you got killed?

was he gold? -> cheater

was he silver? -> nerf gun too OP

Edited January 9, 2019 by TheOppositePolarBear

[magik 184]

4 hours ago, Amberwind said:

yep. definitely going to try learning a thing or two from DannyCool235 when he mints me down at 20m when i am halfway behind cover

thanks for the input dude ill try it out

Sure for those from the good ol' USofA, 20m = 65.6168 feet

Not sure about you, but I think a shotgun is still viable within that range... or you know... in game, 1/5 of the range of your view (which is ~100m; if not slightly more)

 

If you're halfway behind a corner, how are they killing you through a wall? We have third person cameras for a good reason.

[CookiePuss 5377]

8 hours ago, Amberwind said:

~snip~

Actually spent the evening playing NFAS only, and I gotta say you may have a point.

It was kinda gross.

[TheMessiah 430]

cant care less for weapon balancing

[Nitronik 348]

9 hours ago, Amberwind said:

 

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and that's supposed to prove the NFAS is borked?
You know an OCA would've killed you faster at 15m, right?


QUICK MAFFS :

4 shots at 10m. 0.87 ttk. Correction, even an NTEC, STAR or Joker SR15 would've killed you faster

I'm not even gonna bother commenting on needing nearly a full magazine 15m out
 

Edited January 9, 2019 by Nitronik
quicc maffs

[yood 345]

There are no problems. everything works as it should .

[sundere 25]

When you are a pro gold, but come a scrubby and kill you with a nfas plus probably he was using percs too, deadly one 

[CookiePuss 5377]

In order to facilitate the discussion... here are the DB entries for the weapons in question with the relevant data highlighted.

[VanilleKeks 735]

I used the nfas the other day and it was pretty good. Nowhere near overpowered though. That video you posted is also completely pointless. You'd be suprised how many guns can kill you in an instant if you're shooting a guy thats standing still. In reality, you should only get those mow downs when the fight starts in your favor. The nfas relies on a combination of corner popping and the surprise factor most of the time. Nade them, bait them into peaking and use spotter, or even use an OPGL to force them out of their comfort zone.

 

You coulda had a legit discussion about the NFAS if you spend more than a minute typing this garbage.

Edited January 9, 2019 by VanilleKeks

[BlatMan 708]

26 minutes ago, LoveForMatt said:

Pro tip: when you are being fired by a shotgun type gun at 15m+ and you got nowhere to run or get cover, crouch and fire back. You will increase your survival probabilities.

As a shotgun user, aim for the crotch. You won't miss, even if your opponent crouches like a silver.

 

The NFAS only looks decent now because the other shotguns were nerfed harder.

Edited January 9, 2019 by MrsHappyPenguin

[Player1 12]

i think amberwind is right, a weapon like this shouldnt has that amount of potential cause its way to easy to play, i mean what are you doing ? you literally just spamming your opps and melting them down even if you not have prooper aim, cause the nfas is forgiving it.

 

the funny fact which i think is, that most of silvers playing guns like those like for an example -> NHV-R or OPGL or OSMAW mostly you see them with an RFP-9 too.

 

And thats not the end.... if all of those things doesnt help, then they take stuff like -> REMOTE DETONATER or LOW YIELDS or PERCS..

 

All of those shouldnt be in the game on my oppinion cause its brainless gameplay and you get high reward of it to being a full moron which cant play a prooper weapon

[Parthian 344]

5 hours ago, Player1 said:

i think amberwind is right, a weapon like this shouldnt has that amount of potential cause its way to easy to play, i mean what are you doing ? you literally just spamming your opps and melting them down even if you not have prooper aim, cause the nfas is forgiving it.

 

the funny fact which i think is, that most of silvers playing guns like those like for an example -> NHV-R or OPGL or OSMAW mostly you see them with an RFP-9 too.

 

And thats not the end.... if all of those things doesnt help, then they take stuff like -> REMOTE DETONATER or LOW YIELDS or PERCS..

 

All of those shouldnt be in the game on my oppinion cause its brainless gameplay and you get high reward of it to being a full moron which cant play a prooper weapon

 ^^^^^^^^^^^^this

 

It is impossible to do bad with the NFAS unless you are physically missing half of your brain. The OCA may have a faster TTK but it won't matter unless you manage to hit all 8 bullets in a row every single fight. The NFAS only requires you to hold your crosshair somewhere close to your enemy while holding MB1 in order to kill them. I bet you I could put my dog on the keys and he'll still do good with it.

[ZoriaDunne 327]

If you have to attack a close place and they using Nfas, use a close combat weapon yourself, spam nades, use a Grenade launcher.
Use your imagination, team coordination, teamwork can beat anything.

Edited January 12, 2019 by TheKeanuReeves

[cheater 296]

3 minutes ago, TheKeanuReeves said:

If you have to attack a close place and they using Nfas, use a close combat weapon yourself, spam nades, use a Grenade launcher.
Use your imagination, team coordination, teamwork can beat anything.

You are a silver

[ZoriaDunne 327]

1 minute ago, cheater said:

You are a silver

Been gold for like 8 years lmao.