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Thinking I used to main Oscar... Talking of this game based on "self assumation", thinking bad I may arrive to the conclusion "you are just one of the others" macro users want to leave the state of things just like that because to have your own little advantage using secondary weapons full auto. I bet no one of you care of getting a macro for using a joker carbine, what at end you all aim are the secondaries, the best ones are semiautos and pretty untouchable in TTK and accuracy during the ages. Main reason and nobody/ you will never admit it, but it doesnt need a genius for it, so I dont care your answer or if u really used it at the end, we both know the truth around it About the Joker carbine, with the actual stats it is very far from a assault rifle, and also it doesnt in decent tier , it's one of the most incostitent and rng weapon of the game comparing to others. Naming & Shaming removed. - Azukii Bye

Nothing to add.. (still a little upset for some shotgun change, DOW is bullpit and CSG has the fire rate of a star while in cqc the media is around 0.67 in cqc -_____-'' )

just turn semi- auto weapons in automatic weapons or give the option in game to autoset macros such as others games after people complain for gaming mouse or carpal tunnel disease. G1 and LO have already or let underpowered the TTK or range/ accuracy (or all both) of all semi-automatic weapons for the macro issue, without count "recently" in past LO got some kind of sponsor from a mouse company, it seem a lose battle, just need to make it clear and simple Lo promise for some better crosshair or rework, I would like to see ( soon possible) what they will change

What I have in mind is to add something similar of the grenades, or better adding the same mechanic for damaging depending from radius players or vehicles. Their damage is due of how much you are far from center of where the grenade explode. I dont see it too applicate with detonator+ Explosive 3, also predicting it if the opponent is decent, very rarely I survive at the edge of the presumed blast radious if I dont have a excellent cover, and especially a lot of times you arent enough so fast to espace cause of the big blast radious. Nope

Someone will be always baited (poor souls didnt have the chance for testing it before v.v)

I love this part, finally I could use Vaquero and Coywolf without my teamates insulting me because it cant load heavy cargo, lost several missions just for this detail XD. Just some doubts about this patch: Yep I have the same doubt, I dont see any sense about it. ok, maybe? PLEASE do something about this: Detonator need absoluty a little rework, then I have to add the damage radius is very high and oneshot you also being at the edge of the explosion radius. It's not very funny play against a pair of members clans of tryhard of my knowledge ( a hug to them ) spamming remote detonator one by one for all missions XD

Dow was quite fine in my opinion before the "last balance patch" for shotguns, after that simply it doesnt worth because is too incosistent (unfortunately same speech for other shotguns..). As I and others told below, I dont see any reason to use it, not a big surpraise if now it is selled for barely 350/ 500k nowdays, complety trash.

I dont know if it's for the last rainings but servers are kinda lagging, spark lagging and drop until 500ms+

Add CLANWARS.... (or something fun or worth to make in groups for both factions) Seriously.. this feature it was proclamed since APB beta and we are still waiting for it If not possible above change me the APB money in my characters in real money and give me, I will happy too

I would love it if LO may make it for FFA 3rd too...

Oscar... cause I cant use it "so good" as before for the crap connection I have.... If above is not valid, so it's Dow... nobody used it and I showed my its mighty to all tryhards teamates while they were dying such as snails under salts and blaming me for using a crap weapon continuing to order me the fist minutes to switch weapon, while too also opponents thinking I was a easy target... I showed all them its mighty coming through as a freaking cargo train. DOW, aka (my dear ) Dont Oppose the Wagonmaster.... We spent a lot of good times dear buddy, you will always in my memories, especially in my painful right hand, I hope one day LO will re-give your seat between the legends, you have never been excatly popular, but you were the dark king behind ignorance and especially dark corners perfumed of ambush that gave to this your humile disciple a lot of satisfactions. So long

Yep agreed, they can make a lot of better than this.. How may they resolve this matter? Simple, Just separate the shoulder pads making one for left and one for right shoulder, without the requiring of having a set... this may help also for some more creative/ aimed customization. They may do that also for a lot of others clothing accessories...

Anyway chill out, we were just joking. embrace the meme furry boi I didnt retain it excatly overpowered in past, but one or a pair of steps above other CQC weapons certainly yes, and the fact you dont need literraly to aim for making a kill and just spam the entire mag for kill 1 or also 2 opponents at the same times have no sense. Not agree with the total nerf and not a proper rework, but actually a little breath from nfas spammers isnt so bad. ATAC is still the same since ages, it's versatile for its range/ recoil and noobfriendly but lose against specialist weapons in their forte category.

This isnt answer nothing sadly, we are more and less the same point of departure. I re-write what my feedback about shotguns here below, but "someone" continue to cancel my message without a reason, sorry if I was late but I didnt played a lot these months or used them, except JG. - CSG/ Tas is almost fine, reward your aim and I like how it is now, but I feel it a little slower its fire rate/ ttk compared to other cqc weapon for firing the second shot or following ones. The supposed advantage of having more range than JG, very barely I see it or the difference, the JG is still better, faster and versatile. (I admit the JG it's more rng, but unless of very bad luck 89% of the times and if you have a decent tracking/aim the pellet spread is in your favour) So,In my weak opinion, LO may follow two direction: 1) Leave all like that and just buff a little, but a little little the fire rate, 0.75 for a CQC weapon is kinda mediocre. 2) Leave all like that but give a accuracy buff/ pellet spread, i mean make it at 9/10m if there are 2 fired clear shot it shall be a 90/100% kill, not just a weak possibility/ variable ( sincerly I am NOT so full convinced a lot about this option, but actually you cant archieve it neither with CSG also with 3/4/5 shots especially after one step above 10.00000001 m, because of the spread or very simple they will KILL you before to land those shots...) - JG is fine, nothing to add, make its rough work if servers/ latency are ok. - DOW is sadly bad, for what I remind worst of it was before the last balance. I am not surpraised to see it selled in marina for 300/500k, nowdays. - NFAS... sincerly I like this weapon got nerfed to oblivion, it would be nice a total rework of this weapon, if LO want to make/ continue shotguns a 3 shot to kills experiment, have to make it first balanced for giving a clue to themself and us... I guess - Shredder, no clue, I havent tried it except the trial when it was op and I didnt purchased it for how lame it was and knowing it will end the story with it after purchased.... Fire rate seem very slow, range nothing of special, accuracy... I dont see a lot of hopes to get a role in APB for this weapon in future I will try a little heavily showstopperS next days too, but I bet here we didnt change a lot from before... Asked yes, but for crap tier weapons, not the ones are already in competitive tier

I confirm, DOW is so sadly bad

But the fact it is "actually" since ages, It's harder, underpowered and especially less versatile than CA3 XD CA3 make you less susceptible to some weapons such as scout and in certain way weapons without big overdamage/ burst such as Ursus, Oscar, stac etc... Of course, I am not telling CA3 is owerpowered, but I dont see enough goodsides for switching to Fragile, unless you are a troll player and like to swag a taunt fart+ healing spry after kill or arrest (worth it with some toxic tryhards, a hug to them XD ). About Flak Jacket... healing spray+ low yield grenade (please LO balance a little its damage radius, sometimes is just so incosistent ) / brick or 8ball + healing spray make it at least worth as a situational mode, I can't really tell the same about Fragile. Nope

Tested yesterday: I tried to make 10 matchs with fragile one time, other 10 ones with fragile (+ healing spray), both with premade team. With fragile a die a lot of more times (a little more of + 1/3 deaths than with CA3), unfortunately not just shotguns (pmg or other cqc weapons users didnt give a lot of trouble strangely ) but also explosive weapons (OPGL/ Osnaw etc), nades, some scout users gave me really a bad time XD. missions with 6/8+ players I feel it harder than with CA3, but I noted I perfomed a lot better in mission 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3 than with CA3. CA3 seem still superior, but probabily I need to change something about playstyle, after some thoughts and behaviour change It's not so bad playing with fragile, Self note: PIG+ Fragile is freaking awesome XD

Kinda agreed into thick lines with your thoughts. So what is your suggestion for making fragile a competitive mod, reminding you in past fragile was op, especially in close ranges and ages ago with the possibility to shoot while sprinting ? I would like to hear it . Kevlar is enough tanky and good if you think it as a situational mod, and do its figure in cqc locations/ maps ( and with certain weapons) . At best if LO will decide to make a rebalance, maybe eh, maybe.. The buff I would like to see/ give a try for making it more versatile may be a -25 or 50% recharge time to use consumables (but before nerf a little more the shield durability XD)

As a half brazilian kinda like it but... where are the proofs?

I bet this guy has a nazi poster in his bedroom Sometimes I have like the sensation zombi isnt a real person, it's the forum itself try to communicate with its subs XD

I am not certainly a game developer but if u may look/ played at other fps games where there are classes or several characters choice, generally you may see there are some speeder character but with lower health, they may have better accuracy/ precision than a more tanky classes, that's because I guess they have to make count each bullet they fire for arriving closer possible to the ideal ttk and cause of course, they havent the luxury than a tanky class to miss so much shots. I dont retain it so awful, as I told before certainly it need a (heavy) painstaking work... so better tell not so functional with that loose team is balancing the weapons in game Not really, if anything the contrary, a character with fragile with that accuracy boost may use weapons better than one without, so consequently using better weapons arent exactly meta, so a better widepool weapons choices. Imagine of having a Obeya with CJ2/3 + Heavy barrel 2 (buff from Fragile without drawbacks)... I guess we'll have something very close to the old Obeya before the nerf - Shaw with Muzzle break (red mode) + Heavy barrel 2 (buff from Fragile without drawbacks) kinda of behemoth gun until 70m ... Trouble maker with fragile.. ehm pass XD As I told Applying just like that fragile isnt functional, but also too just increase the speed in general here we have to be cautious otherwise it means to return as years ago where u may shoot while spiriting and bi-shot anyone with fragile+ shotgun/ scout..

it's about time for... Anyway....We will see something (CONCRETE) maybe next winter... probabily not

Thank you @Uhtdred, I will give a try too

R a N d O m my dear... I dont know how much but for experience the change seem around 8/ 10%

- Some ex cheaters or banned people come here to tell their story here - (main reason seem xD ) Some gelousy haters have to communicate their happiness of this ban, not just for the reason ban itself (seem they dont care a lot about it), but for the fact the guy has spent 2k euro for a laptop while there I guess they cant xD