Cru Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 Why is allowed the scrollweel fire? It just broke evry semy auto weap.... Oscar - ftw - etc etc... And its abused , a lot of ppl use it , or if they dont they just use macro ( that should be bannable too ) 2
SLICKIEM Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) You do realize that scrollshooting often results in overfiring, ending up with missing bullets server-side right? It requires just as much effort to time correctly as pressing LMB (which isn't hard in the first place, just shoot a wall for a little bit). Not to mention, it's very awkward to track opponents while your finger is doing that strange motion. Edited August 22, 2018 by SLICKIEM
vsb Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 semi automatic weapons are balanced around their theoretical min ttk scroll wheeling does not change that theoretical min ttk therefore scroll wheeling does not unbalance semi automatic weapons
Shikoba Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) This should frighten him even more. Edited August 22, 2018 by Shikoba
Aeronaut Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 lots of misinformation happens in this game. usually through misguided friends in-game. try out the scrollwheel fire and tell me how much better you got. 1 1
Genobee Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 Scrollwheel is a bit of a nightmare. Just being good at clicking is massively superior. 1
NotZombieBiscuit Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 It gives pretty much no advantage, makes controlling precise timing even harder, and is just all around stupid. Why block it?
TheJellyGoo Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 While scrollwheeling might help a terrible player to become a bit better it will also stop him from becoming more than decent. Ruining your timings with semis will be more often a disadvantage than an advantage for you.
Kiida Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 Scrollwheel firing is a gimmick. It doesn't help you in the long run, only scuffs your aim and sense of fire rate.
CookiePuss Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 I say allow it. No reason to block the obviously disabled from playing apb.
Keshi Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 scrollwheel is an option on your mouse. saying scrollwheel is not allowed is like saying rightclick or leftclick isnt allowed either....
BlatMan Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 If firing a semi-automatic weapon at it's maximum intended rate of fire is giving the user an advantage, the weapon is unbalanced.
Cru Posted August 22, 2018 Author Posted August 22, 2018 In most cases its useless , and i agree whit u , but if u use it whit the ftw and oscar for exeple is absolute broken, u'll will never get that fire rate ( and for me even precision, cuz it becomes easyer to aim ) And trust me thers a Lot of player abusing it , even my slef today i played whit it and u could kill any1 whit the ftw -_- ( and when it comes to clicking, i cant even be costant whit it's rate of fire )
yood Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) anticheat FairFight always saw it as using macros and made bans correctly created macro destroys ANY balancing of weapons . return FairFight ! Edited August 23, 2018 by Yood
vsb Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Yood said: anticheat FairFight always saw it as using macros and made bans correctly created macro destroys ANY balancing of weapons . return FairFight ! fairfight did not ban for scroll wheeling fairfight is still here btw, it just doesnt broadcast bans anymore
CookiePuss Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Yood said: anticheat FairFight always saw it as using macros and made bans correctly created macro destroys ANY balancing of weapons . return FairFight ! We still have Fairfight.
StrelitziaDeWitt Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 6 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: It gives pretty much no advantage, makes controlling precise timing even harder, and is just all around stupid. Why block it? Why are you doing this man, we were all waiting for the famous zombiebiscuit one liner yet you come with this!
Nite Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Shikoba said: This should frighten him even more. The G700s was doing that before it was cool.
yood Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: 35 minutes ago, Yood said: anticheat FairFight always saw it as using macros and made bans correctly created macro destroys ANY balancing of weapons . return FairFight ! We still have Fairfight. Fairfight disconnected allegedly because of false prohibitions-scammers have achieved the desired . and helped them by MattScott , Unfortunately .
CookiePuss Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, Yood said: Fairfight disconnected allegedly because of false prohibitions-scammers have achieved the desired . and helped them by MattScott , Unfortunately . Partially correct. Fairfight was responsible for false bans in the past. But Fairfight is still running alongside BattlEye. So we have both a client sided and server sided anticheat.
yood Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Partially correct. Fairfight was responsible for false bans in the past. But Fairfight is still running alongside BattlEye. So we have both a client sided and server sided anticheat. your right to think like you want PunkBuster - disabled , FairFight - disabled . Edited August 23, 2018 by Yood
vsb Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Yood said: Fairfight disconnected allegedly because of false prohibitions-scammers have achieved the desired . and helped them by MattScott , Unfortunately . the thread itself is no longer visible ( https://forums.gamersfirst.com/topic/408600-why-did-you-stop-broadcasting-bans/ ), but they have not said that fairfight has been removed, just that some features have been disabled additional confirmation from mattscott on discord, fairfight is still running beside batteye
illgot Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, Yood said: anticheat FairFight always saw it as using macros and made bans correctly created macro destroys ANY balancing of weapons . return FairFight ! sarcasm? Because no macro is perfectly timed due to a few factors. 1) computer processing speed 2) server side processing speed 3) latency The only way to maximize firing is to have the rapid fire macro fire well beyond the perfect ROF. If you set the macro with a "perfect" ROF, it will not function like you expect. It will skip shots which causes you to fire twice as slow and due to the factors listed above will never be with in perfect parameters. And anyone firing a semi-auto as fast as possible will also reach maximum bloom faster than people who tap fire. I wish everyone used rapid fire macro's set at "perfect" or even maximized ROF. People who do this make easy targets. Now, people who use triggerbots or aimbots, that's another issue which has nothing to do with simple rapid fire macros. 1
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