TooStrong 15 Posted August 18, 2018 Hey guys, i think the payout for non premium players should change. I think the devs need to make the premium payout as the normal for non premium players. And just add an even higher payout for premium players. I am not sure if anyone else has thought about this or realized that the payout / rewards for non premium players is really really bad. Even to the point where myself wouldn't recommend anyone play APB unless they have premium. Would love to hear the devs opinion about this or if they plan on changing it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted August 18, 2018 Remove one of the few reasons people have for buying premium? ... great idea 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted August 18, 2018 Am I reading this right? You want to remove a premium benefit because you can't hoard in game cash as much with non premium? Assuming I am reading this right : Greed over in game money that is only used for ammo and renting guns ,strife against those who have more of what does not matter to begin with , and jealousy over numbers in this case cash from missions (which is also gluttony in this case) are not valid reasons to remove premium benefits for those who support APB and Little Orbit. I completely refuse to do so. I will support the game and Little Orbit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lokislav 25 Posted August 18, 2018 I am a non-premium, I have 60k and apart from buying vehicles, I have no idea what to spend it on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TooStrong 15 Posted August 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Remove one of the few reasons people have for buying premium? ... great idea I clearly said: "And just add an even higher payout for premium players." 5 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said: Am I reading this right? You want to remove a premium benefit because you can't hoard in game cash as much with non premium? Assuming I am reading this right : Greed over in game money that is only used for ammo and renting guns ,strife against those who have more of what does not matter to begin with , and jealousy over numbers in this case cash from missions (which is also gluttony in this case) are not valid reasons to remove premium benefits for those who support APB and Little Orbit. I completely refuse to do so. I will support the game and Little Orbit I never said to removed premium. If they make premium as the normal for non premium players, all they have to is increase the premium payout even higher. it works both ways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 379 Posted August 18, 2018 The only issue I see with Premium is the 2x cool down on timers. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, RadeonProWX said: I never said to removed premium. If they make premium as the normal for non premium players, all they have to is increase the premium payout even higher. it works both ways. That is why I said assuming I am reading this correctly But how can they go about doing this without causing inflation? *shrugs* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrincessLuna 2 Posted August 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, RadeonProWX said: I clearly said: "And just add an even higher payout for premium players." I never said to removed premium. If they make premium as the normal for non premium players, all they have to is increase the premium payout even higher. it works both ways. My concern by ramping up money rewards would be reducing the value of the currency thus inflating the cost of other items (symbols, themes, legendary weapons). I don't see any issue with the current payout rates for non-premium players as buying ammo and mods isn't all that difficult. As long as you are playing relatively well and winning, I can easily see anyone earning at least $1,800-$2300 per match. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted August 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, RadeonProWX said: I clearly said: "And just add an even higher payout for premium players." What even is inflation? Maybe we should solve poverty by printing more money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stunny 42 Posted August 18, 2018 another one that wants everything for free its like none of these people did economics at school Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LovelyJasmine 10 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Remove Premium as whole, no need to buy premium. Premium activated for everyone and remove premium from ARMAS. Edited August 18, 2018 by LovelyJasmine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoeEveryWeek 34 Posted August 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, LovelyJasmine said: Remove Premium as whole, no need to buy premium. Premium activated for everyone and remove premium from ARMAS. You just killed Armas in two lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 379 Posted August 19, 2018 3 hours ago, MoeEveryWeek said: You just killed Armas in two lines. I doubt Premium brings in anywhere the amount of money that JMBs and Weapons/Outfits does. I would wager that the premium given away in JMBs is a large percentage of total the premium used in this game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted August 19, 2018 5 hours ago, LovelyJasmine said: Remove Premium as whole, no need to buy premium. Premium activated for everyone and remove premium from ARMAS. So I take it you will volunteer to pay the bills to keep the APB servers running for Little Orbit then? btw cant remove premium and yet give premium to everyone.... Seriously want facepalm for the forums to use instead of only a dislike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alani 475 Posted August 19, 2018 4 hours ago, illgot said: I doubt Premium brings in anywhere the amount of money that JMBs and Weapons/Outfits does. I would wager that the premium given away in JMBs is a large percentage of total the premium used in this game. it probably doesnt. but the amount of people who buy premium and then buy items from armas is pretty high. gotta get that discount bro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nessie 81 Posted August 19, 2018 11 hours ago, Lokislav said: I am a non-premium, I have 60k and apart from buying vehicles, I have no idea what to spend it on Non-premium here, never spent a cent on the game. I have 600k, about 15 legendaries and all the cars I could want to. I use the occasional free premium days to customize them and then I'm set... The only annoying thing of premium is the shortened ability time. Thats just unfair and should be removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lokislav 25 Posted August 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nessie said: Non-premium here, never spent a cent on the game. I have 600k, about 15 legendaries and all the cars I could want to. I use the occasional free premium days to customize them and then I'm set... The only annoying thing of premium is the shortened ability time. Thats just unfair and should be removed. What ability? Sorry, I am new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nessie 81 Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, Lokislav said: 3 minutes ago, Nessie said: Non-premium here, never spent a cent on the game. I have 600k, about 15 legendaries and all the cars I could want to. I use the occasional free premium days to customize them and then I'm set... The only annoying thing of premium is the shortened ability time. Thats just unfair and should be removed. What ability? Sorry, I am new. Orange mods can be spammed twice as fast as non-premium players. Which means more Spotter, more Repair, more Nitros, more Detonator etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, LovelyJasmine said: Remove Premium as whole, no need to buy premium. Premium activated for everyone and remove premium from ARMAS. Yes! Eliminate Premium and just charge a monthly subscription, it worked for WoW, so what could go wrong? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ As a bonus it'll get rid of the "APB is P2W" argument, because everyone is paying! *maniacal laugh* Edited August 19, 2018 by KnifuWaifu ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted August 19, 2018 Yeah cause the in game economy is not already stupidly inflated as is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shini 251 Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Personally...i think the cool down times on mods for premium should be given to free players since it kinda does effect direct gameplay. Compensate that by increasing the standing gains for leveling contacts while premium. Money increase should remain the same as it is now. Customization benefits remain the same as they are now. Basically anything that influences gameplay can be seen as p2w, even if its slight it should be removed. Edited August 19, 2018 by Shini Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nite 261 Posted August 19, 2018 Remove the mod cooldown bonus from premium and replace it with double rate joker ticket earnings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foolish ninja 59 Posted August 19, 2018 Like Shini said, the cooldown reduction as premium user should be removed, but the bonus money reward should be a lot less. Right now its 125% bonus APB$. Its more than doubled as non premium and should be reduced and converted to the normal gain in missions without premium. Premium already gives a lot of advantages and should be tuned down to make it more friendly to newcomers and shouldnt think "oh this guy bought something for real money and thus hes progession 2x faster than me. Imo it makes APB look bad and makes people quit right after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheJellyGoo 343 Posted August 19, 2018 Its always a bit funny when people say that money has become worthless in APB... Usually they swim in premium and legendaries from bought JMB's. Of course you don't have money issues when you buy legendaries for real cash and have bonus APB$ for things you don't need to buy (for years). Go start a new account and see how long it takes to save up for a decently slotted Patriot (and rented weapons + mods) - I remember how I started out. Can't balance the economy around veterans that have been playing for years without making it unattractive for new players. There needs to be some hella expensive gimmicky if you want to take money from the top% which doesn't have much (or any) influence on actual gameplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5375 Posted August 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheJellyGoo said: Its always a bit funny when people say that money has become worthless in APB... Usually they swim in premium and legendaries from bought JMB's. Of course you don't have money issues when you buy legendaries for real cash and have bonus APB$ for things you don't need to buy (for years). Go start a new account and see how long it takes to save up for a decently slotted Patriot (and rented weapons + mods) - I remember how I started out. Can't balance the economy around veterans that have been playing for years without making it unattractive for new players. There needs to be some hella expensive gimmicky if you want to take money from the top% which doesn't have much (or any) influence on actual gameplay. As a symbol maker, for me money HAS become worthless. APBs economy is dumb imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
