is this game just being used as a money laundering front?

[ninjarrrr 261]

explains how they can keep a <500 population game alive when there is nothing to spend money on and nothing worth buying ever gets released, plus LO doesn't have anything else to earn revenue from since their other projects just fail lol (see stonehold or whatever mobile game they were working on just got silently nuked whilst in development haha) and somehow matt can afford to fly off to gamescom germany (to show off what exactly?)

 

also why matt finds it in his heart to keep this game going, anyone with sense wouldve nuked it long ago

[CookiePuss 5382]

44 minutes ago, ninjarrrr said:

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How exactly is Matt using APB to launder money? I dont think I've ever understood how it all works.

[Darkzero3802 613]

I guarantee you LO doesnt make any profit off of APB. Anyone left who plays owns everything already.

[ninjarrrr 261]

1 hour ago, Darkzero3802 said:

I guarantee you LO doesnt make any profit off of APB. Anyone left who plays owns everything already.

...which is basically what im saying, how are they keeping it alive when it isnt making money and anyone in their mind wouldve killed it. its a front

[vsb 6174]

wouldn’t an entirely digital, and therefore easily traceable, economy defeat the entire purpose of money laundering?

 

[BlatMan 717]

I think Matt is just really good at finding stupid investors.

[N66 99]

4 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

How exactly is Matt using APB to launder money? I dont think I've ever understood how it all works.

What do you mean? is it not obvious? he takes all the dirty money and goes to the money laundry in Waterfront, that's why he has to keep the servers open..

[Temporal 21]

8 hours ago, N66 said:

What do you mean? is it not obvious? he takes all the dirty money and goes to the money laundry in Waterfront, that's why he has to keep the servers open..

What's wrong with one in Fin? >.>

I do my laundering all the time in there 

[Yapopal 179]

They only wash their pants.

[MACKxBOLAN 434]

Well I don't see Matt as being a person of that sort. Based on his demeanor. 

Criminals in general, have a distinct demeanor, which in not always obvious to the 

average joe, but stands out like a sore thumb to people like me. 

 Now I also believe the man is somewhat nuts with his vision of the future. 

But I don't think he is the criminal type.

That said I think there may have been some shady things within the company, 

where Matt may not have had part of or knowledge of, in the distant past.

 I would say that I am not happy with the speed of implementing sard.

That the years of waiting for an AC have destroyed the game, and the legit players 

who played it. And That I don't believe Matt understands the degree of toxicity 

generated by hackers or the daily hourly abuse by them. Cause he doesn't play. 

  

  At best, apb could be used as a tax write off, if large sums of money were spent

on development, then you would only be able to write off a percentage of what was spent. 

Tax on your income would remain the same unless you filed bankruptcy.

 

 For apb to be a money laundering or Rackeet. 

They would have to have a very large flow of cash coming from players, to hide or 

cover up the money being laundered from another source. 

And they would be then taxed on the laundered money.

 So when You launder money, you don't get it all back, there are fee's.

The money launderer has to get something for his service, and those taxes he'll have to pay. 

So the launderer is gonna want considerably more of a percentage than those taxes. 

And the party needing the money laundered will only get 60-70% of the money he wanted cleaned. 

 

 So You see there is just not enough cash flow thru apb to come anywhere near what would be needed 

to run a Rackeet. 

[Ketog 1032]

23 hours ago, ninjarrrr said:

explains how they can keep a <500 population game alive when there is nothing to spend money on and nothing worth buying ever gets released, plus LO doesn't have anything else to earn revenue from since their other projects just fail lol (see stonehold or whatever mobile game they were working on just got silently nuked whilst in development haha) and somehow matt can afford to fly off to gamescom germany (to show off what exactly?)

 

also why matt finds it in his heart to keep this game going, anyone with sense wouldve nuked it long ago

 

As schizo as that sounds, i'd think yes but for UnitGame specifically, since the IP acquisition of APB rights absolutely nothing happened, and their website doesn't show anything relevant, you'd think after pouring money in a project like this, they'd do something with it, as for LO, i don't think they are.

[Hexerin 1142]

21 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said:

I guarantee you LO doesnt make any profit off of APB. Anyone left who plays owns everything already.

Game gets a steady turnover of new players (whether they stick around or ultimately leave), and at least some of them are going to drop some amount on ARMAS. Combine this with G1 having basically no staff to pay, and server hosting costing next to nothing, and it's not hard to make a steady profit (even if only a trickle).

[Darkzero3802 613]

29 minutes ago, Hexerin said:

Game gets a steady turnover of new players (whether they stick around or ultimately leave), and at least some of them are going to drop some amount on ARMAS. Combine this with G1 having basically no staff to pay, and server hosting costing next to nothing, and it's not hard to make a steady profit (even if only a trickle).

Eh. Steam charts seems to say otherwise. We had that influx back in may but that dwindled away already. No staff is proof that they dont care as if they did the staff would be in place to handle the cheaters and fix the game and for servers im sure there is some cost to that which has gone up with inflation over the last few years. I dont see the cash flow increasin with a decining playerbase to makeup for higher expenses.

[SkittyM 287]

5 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said:

Eh. Steam charts seems to say otherwise. We had that influx back in may but that dwindled away already. No staff is proof that they dont care as if they did the staff would be in place to handle the cheaters and fix the game and for servers im sure there is some cost to that which has gone up with inflation over the last few years. I dont see the cash flow increasin with a decining playerbase to makeup for higher expenses.

What staff even.  Only Support can ban and it seems LO has downsized significantly which is why support times have plateaued and/or raised.  APB at this point appears to be self running in a sense as LO has no other games and i don't believe they operate off of investors.

[Romique 13]

well - i know some people that - came to the game like 3 month ago and bought like - alot of g1c and jts - and bought all the guns  and cars they need to play! idk why they dont run away yet - but - i play with them, also i know some dudes that regularly buy some ammount of Jts... - so ,,,,mb there is some income and matt want it to get bigger - but - since cheaters r here - every new player will leave next day after he came in.....but question still opened - how the fuck and why they didnt close apb - exactly

[VanilleKeks 744]

Yes, if you open your eyes you would know this already. These new cheat points are crypto tokens which Matt uses to launder money from his SARD spyware data selling.

 

Open your eyes you fools

[Yapopal 179]

The players are like chickens. All you need is to scatter the grains, change the straw, remove the manure and collect the eggs. Every six months, Matt throws a bag of grain into a barn overgrown with manure. Chickens died out a long time ago, only pterodactyls remained. 

Edited December 1 by Yapopal

[Queen of Love 453]

the amazing customation system is a gold mine for know what people like.
the service of data collect is a dollars revenue daily.

[Darkzero3802 613]

16 hours ago, SkittyM said:

What staff even.  Only Support can ban and it seems LO has downsized significantly which is why support times have plateaued and/or raised.  APB at this point appears to be self running in a sense as LO has no other games and i don't believe they operate off of investors.

All bad decisions by LO leadership. Instead of trying to do whats right they dont care are just seem to sit back and watch.

[Nagletz 219]

7 hours ago, Queen of Love said:

the amazing customation system is a gold mine for know what people like.
the service of data collect is a dollars revenue daily.

Trust me hun, "know what people like" are sitting on sites i usually sit on as consumer (details are not pretty). I doubt APB will make any difference to whole data set, whatever the set is. As far as i know, social networks are main data collectors nowadays. Enjoy ur ads btw.

[PotatoeGirl 220]

On 11/29/2024 at 11:41 PM, Darkzero3802 said:

I guarantee you LO doesnt make any profit off of APB. Anyone left who plays owns everything already.

What about taking a % from cheat sales? It is the only thing an old player will never get enough of in a game infested with cheaters.

On 11/30/2024 at 9:31 PM, Hexerin said:

Game gets a steady turnover of new players (whether they stick around or ultimately leave), and at least some of them are going to drop some amount on ARMAS. Combine this with G1 having basically no staff to pay, and server hosting costing next to nothing, and it's not hard to make a steady profit (even if only a trickle).

What kind of new player is going to throw money at a game to get constantly stomped on?

[Queen of Love 453]

On 12/1/2024 at 9:36 PM, Nagletz said:

Trust me hun, "know what people like" are sitting on sites i usually sit on as consumer (details are not pretty). I doubt APB will make any difference to whole data set, whatever the set is. As far as i know, social networks are main data collectors nowadays. Enjoy ur ads btw.

you understimate APB.

[Bellenettiel 232]

On 12/3/2024 at 8:22 PM, Queen of Love said:

you understimate APB.

it is shotty information at best

 

and barely applicable to distribute.

[Anella 73]

On 11/29/2024 at 8:37 PM, ninjarrrr said:

also why matt finds it in his heart to keep this game going, anyone with sense wouldve nuked it long ago

And yet you are still here complaining about the game tho  

[ninjarrrr 261]

12 hours ago, Anella said:

And yet you are still here complaining about the game tho  

and your signature says you're silver threat, but I hardly complain about that :))