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Linking a vid so people will understand what I'm talking about instead of downvoting like children: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgMDZrYOuMM Hello. I would like to ask what's LO's standpoint on scroll wheel shooting @MattScott @Lixil. I'm sure you encountered those suspiciously fast and consistent fbw / oscar / obeya / temptress players at least once who clearly fire in a perfect rhythm with the fastest fire rate possible without making a single mistake ever. If you haven't heard of it scroll wheel shooting is basically firing your gun by scrolling your mouse wheel which can basically bypass the weapon jamming when you are clicking LMB too fast. Some mice also come with a feature where the mouse wheel continues to spin by itself if you spin it just once. Scroll wheel shooting essentially lets you fire the guns at maximum possible fire rate without having to put any effort into learning the fire rate of a particular gun or practicing clicking fast or in a rhythm. The outcome is basically like the one when you are using a macro to shoot therefore imo scroll wheel shooting should be considered as cheating. Massive amount of people is using it even right now. Some people even streaming while using it. Imho it gives you the same unfair advantage as a macro and something should be done about it. What do you guys think ? TL:DR: One of my biggest concerns are that scroll wheel shooting lets you skip a really big part of the learning curve which is learning the guns, specific fire rates. Learning how to click fast and how to click in a perfect rhythm. Another big concern is that even after thousands of hours in APB you still won't be able to shoot as perfectly as scroll wheel shooting allows you to. People make mistakes and it's humanly impossible to have that perfect fastest fire rate all the time with every gun. While scroll wheel lets you achieve that with ease. And that gives you an advantage in battles if you are able to fire your guns as fast as possible every single time.

Another one of those "buff or nerf ?" "yes / no"

Dunno how about you people but I played so many games with punkbuster and it was always garbage as far as I remember.

So nice to hear. I've been chilling in other games the last days waiting for this glorious day to come. Thank you LO.

looking behind yourself doesn't make you change the way you hold the gun. It would definitely work

It's not about being delusional. It's about LO's standpoint. If they are going to be heartless materialists they won't give us anything back. If they will though understand that G1 was rising the prices over the years and since new players will be buying stuff for the lower prices it's kind of unfair to the older players that they purchased stuff for the ridiculous prices. It's about the fact that you who for example spent 10k g1c will just have like 3 weapons and for example a new player who spent 10k g1c might have like 7 weapons or something. I wouldn't be super optimistic about them making some refunds but it could happen.

It would be so cool if we got the difference in prices back as extra g1c to spend. That money is already gone so it's not like LO is losing money on us since new players would be buying stuff for the lower prices so it's actually kinda fair if we got the difference in prices back.

They should definitely get rid of gamersfirst or rather:

As I wrote in another thread. If you actually put some effort in and install the mouse fix you will instantly notice that your sensitivity will be twice as fast and that definitely means that APB still relies on what is set in BaseInput.ini therefore it's still working. Now the question is what's working and what's not. I've asked all of my friends who actively use it and somehow all of them including me say that there is a slight difference. Even people on the forum who still use it are using it because as some people said without it, the mouse input feels off. By default mouse smoothing is also enabled in BaseInput.ini even if you have it unchecked in the game. I know that you just can't wait to post another placebo comment but if the changes in BaseInput.ini actually affect the sensitivity then I wouldn't be surprised if acceleration and smoothing in that file also still affect the mouse input. And as I said multiple times I've tested the game with and without the fix and without the fix mouse input felt heavier, not sure if it's because of the acceleration or some internal smoothing is being applied, but after applying the fix the mouse input felt a lot more responsive. Just as if you started using raw input from csgo

I hope the game will look like on the engine upgrade video but just with lighter shadows. APB is kind of an arcade game so the visibility should be good. Otherwise people will intentionally downgrade the graphics to be able to see better.

No no I'm not replying in an attacking way or anything. I completely agree with you. People have been talking about a feature like that for years. It would be so damn cool to have the same crosshairs as csgo and an ability to turn them static or change how dynamic they are on a scale from 0.0 to 1.0. Entire UI should be reworked tbh. If you disable the UI you get like 20 extra fps.

Custom crosshairs definitely help. As I wrote before go play csgo with a big clunky dynamic crosshair and then switch to a tiny thin static one. Your focus and accuracy will improve instantly.

Yeah good logic to dismiss any recently said things by multiple people and still stand by something from 4 years ago which might not even be true, you know it better without even testing it. Keep at it buddy. If you actually install the mouse fix your sensitivity doubles which definitely means that the game still relies on BaseInput.ini like I said before. By default you also have mouse smoothing enabled in BaseInput.ini which is being disabled by mouse fix as well as few other modifiers.

let me ask you again since you deliberately skipped the most important part of my post. Did you test it recently ? Because somehow all of you people who know it the best and are not using it claim that it's not working but everyone who is actively using it or tested it claims that there is a slight difference and without the fix the mouse input feels off. Must be a mass hallucination.

100% agree. Best example being, go play csgo with some gigantic dynamic crosshair and then change it to a tiny static one, the difference in accuracy is tremendous.

did you actually test it recently or all you can do is make edgy comments ?

I've tested the game with and without the fix and there's definitely a slight difference in responsiveness. Many people try claiming that it's a placebo but it's not. I did some flicking tests, micro adjustment tests and without the fix my mouse input felt clunky, my flicks were often too short or I was flicking too much while as soon as mouse fix was installed everything felt natural and responsive again. Many of my friends who use the mouse fix say the same that it's still working. I feel like G1 might have tried to fix it in the past but imo the internal smoothing is still present and that's why the input without the fix feels so clunky. There's definitely something in the game messing with it without the fix. Additionally to any people claiming that changes in the config do nothing. You need to divide your sensitivity after applying the fix or your sens will be super fast so the game definitely is still using BaseInput.ini to determine how the mouse input is working. Also mouse smoothing is enabled in BaseInput.ini by default even if the box in the game is unchecked.

All your hypothetical talking is cute how you can kill hvr with this or that. In reality you won't have time to change weapons all the time and also every hvr player will position themselves in the most annoying spot possible and will crouch spam you which means that instead of doing the objective you have to fully focus on the hvr to do anything at all. You have only few minutes to finish a stage. By the time hvr wipes your entire squad and you and your teammates respawn and get on top of the camping spot and maybe finally kill the hvr and hopefully deal with the rest of his teammates you will most likely be out of time already and you will try to yolo the objective. Then the hvr will spawn right behind you in the middle of the street where he has a clear view on the objective and will camp some corner again 85ing anyone who gets remotely close to the objective. It's cute to say that you can cover the objective with shields and maybe cars but have you forgotten that the hvr also has teammates who will call an airstrike of concs and yolos on your position and blow up any cars used for cover. hvr is a real nuisance even if you take an hvr yourself to counter it, if you mess up and he lands the shot on you first, you will be out of combat for few seconds which gives him an opportunity to 85 tag the rest of your team resulting in a quick wipeout thanks to hvr's teammates. Currently hvr is way too easy to use for how powerful it is and additionally it's viable on every range which makes it truly a broken weapon. It's supposed to be a support rifle, meaning high risk high reward, currently there is no risk, only high reward.

well yeah probably xD. It's apb's community we are talking about after all.

I really hope the new anti cheat will come soon. So many people are cheating their asses off right now because they won't be able to soon. That should also clear out some allegations about many players who are good and legit but people think they are cheating.

Premium in this game is probably n1 source of income for them since everyone wants to unlock the advanced customization. The 2x loyalty was nice and it felt far more reasonable than what we have right now. Also would be cool if LO would refund us some g1c if they would lower the prices of the stuff we have purchased in the past but most likely not gonna happen.

My guess would be that either they are working on something better or gifting has been connected to frauds / scams so they might have removed it forever or temporarily.

still wouldn't fix hvr being used at every range and being hitscan 850 damage

Exactly that's the point. You should be able to pick up an hvr as a fun weapon whenever you feel like it without everyone bashing you for it. You shouldn't feel forced to use one because the other team is using them as well so to give your team a chance of winning you need to use it too. Best proof is how everyone switches to hvrs during takeouts.

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