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True, but there's also high skill players with questionable opinions about balance. There's been plenty of those that refused to acknowledge that the N-TEC was overperforming and needed changes. Balancing weapons with input from every skill level, data and as many players as possible is the best way to get an even playground.

I'm definitely not going to start argueing with you, don't worry. It'll get nowhere anyway, considering your questionable view on game health. It's always funny when people think "lower skill level" is an argument, just shows how selfish someone thinks. Either way, you can trust me on this - LO does listen and there's a bunch of community players sharing their thoughts and playtests upcoming changes, coming from all skill levels, even including "yours". The population numbers go down because there hasn't been a single content update for almost a decade, only a few adjustments and smaller quality-of-life updates here and there like the trading system. It has little to nothing to do with rebalancing things, maybe a handful of players who had their overperforming crutches taken away. If anything, the fact that the game still has a playable playerbase after all this time just shows how big of a potential APB has.

Buffing everything to the level of the N-TEC would be the exact opposite of making the meta more diverse. I do agree that the weapon balance was near perfect before LO did all the balance changes. Shotguns for example were the most balanced class before the LO shotgunning, with maybe the Shredder needing some love, And only a few weapons like the HVR, N-TEC, PMG and some others that needed changes. Now roll back a little and undo all the unnecesary nerfs G1 did at one point with the introduction of curve mechanics that ruined many weapons like the NCR or FFA 'BullShark'. That's what should've been done in my opinion, and not slightly touching a few weapons here and there. The AR-97 or R-2 for example received a couple tweaks to "buff" them, but their performance didn't change at all. N-TEC is far from requiring much skill, it's literally just learning the tap fire rythm and you can spam it all day long up to marksman range. The OCA received yet another unnecessary buff by G1, that I can agree with. However PMG or JG never received any actual buffs. And you do need other guns because they're solely CQC. The HVR is problematic and probably won't ever be properly balanced as long as the Scout exists. OBIR bolt timer was well needed for the insane damage output when combined with quickswitching. Though I'd rather adjust its damage values. RFP is another prime example that received a buff it never needed and made it ridiculously overpowered, especially the Fang, which could've been called pay to win. Still gotta say that APB became more enjoyable to play the way it is right now, I'd rather want pre-LO guns with slight adjustments though.

We've had this topic with the N-TEC, where a lot of people asked to buff all the other guns instead of nerfing that one. But doing that would sooner or later result in a game where there's a ton of guns, but all play almost the same. Not to mention the immense amount of work and testing this would require, instead of just fixing a small amount of problematic weapons.

i baked you a pie.

Why write it to zombie if I agree with him? Removing all the faction restrictions sucks. Preme just said "to be what you want" which has always been a possibility in APB regardless of restrictions.

But both sides are the same. One just has police lights and useless stun guns.

Take that back!

What'd you do instead? Buff everything to overpowered levels? That's one hell of a way to make every single gun feel the same, resulting in even more stale gameplay than we already have. Not to mention the overall shorter TTK that would be the result from this.

0, 1, 2 and 3 slotted variants can be unlocked through contact progression. The 4 slot has only ever been available as a purple JMB reward, and is currently unobtainable.

Definitely not by streaming in 4:3 with the worst possible clay graphics you can squeeze out of the game, like 90% of the APB streams.

Since it's been brought up a few times, I gotta say I'm not a fan of the new aesthetics too. All the retextures make the game super colorful, while it's supposed to be somewhat dark and gritty. But that's a design decision made by Reloaded Productions and can't easily be reverted, so we're gonna stick to that for now. Social District looks damn fine though.

I'm aware of what broken means. I think you don't know what "opinions" are, do you? It certainly wasn't on the same broken level of the Troublemaker or some of G1s other pay to win cashgrabs, but it always stood out over all ARs and other guns. I agree that the N-TEC is a highly controversial topic, and there'll always be two halves. One thinks it was fine and would prefer a faster overall TTK in this game by buffing every other gun to its level, and the other half thinks it has to be brought down to the level of all other guns. I'm part of the second half. The N-TEC is actually one of the guns I spent the most time on so I can properly talk about it, and it's obvious that it was overperforming. In the end it has been nerfed so I wasn't wrong. Mind you, I also called out jumpshooting before they nerfed it, or the 5stk FBW, and everyone laughed at me for how dumb I am before they realized months or years later that they were indeed a little to strong, and here we are. Why look, some guy misread something I said and is now desperately trying to use it against me... neat. CA isn't overpowered.

The N-TEC and STAR being the more accessible guns doesn't mean that the N-TEC is now allowed to drastically outperform every other AR. It was broken, as it could easily keep up with shotguns, smgs, ars and marksman rifles. If you refuse to see that, I'm sorry. It hasn't been gutted, in fact, it's still one of the best guns and basically the same as before, other than being a tiny bit slower, and that it can't jump shoot that well.

If you could read, you would know that I don't think CA is overpowered. Shoot me a DM on here or Discord if you wanna continue whining, let's not clutter up the thread with you being upset, aight?