Nitronik

JG has a lot of damage overkill to work with, the CSG would be able to harass further out with more consistency due to higher no of pellets You could very well have the ARMAS CSG presets use HB instead of IR with this tweak

Any word of getting rid of the P2W cooldown reduction for Premium users? I am pretty sure it's the only P2W-by-definition feature in APB. Is it being held up by balancing concerns? (e.g. do we give everyone halved cooldowns, do we keep them the same, do we tweak cooldowns etc..) Anything else?

Honestly I'm a bit butthurt by how they're handing out the Butcher skin willy nilly. There's many more exclusive skins in the game but those get to stay as such for some reason... Really looking forward to the new gamemode, finally something different to play!

oh my :3c

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hwo are you

hey

isn't the R2 Crown a Scoped NTEC reskin? @M4N!4C

Fr0g with 20m drop off would honestly be broken

Bringing it back right now would just lead to people abusing it It might be worth it when the engine update hits

XM8 as STAR reskin when? Give me an EM 3 / MS preset that looks like the XM8 LMG - basically the same gun but with a bipod and a double drum magazine EM is not that great but who gives a hoot, I'd love it

I didn't mean to. I was thinking of how HB could be improved. It's kind of useless as is on most weapons since it takes an extra shot to kill. ATM, the only weapons I would use it on are the NSSW (HB2) and the CR762 (HB3). I made that exact same suggestion & got downvoted to hell

way to make fun of me

I've earned my title as you can see B)

buffing the STAR would result in the same problem : You'd have a weapon that's either too easy to use (if you buff the spread again) or that is too competent in most roles (if you buff TTK)

One doesn't gain any practical advantage by having IR3 on a CSG or their ATAC Nothing prevents me from slapping Heavy Barrel on a shotgun but that will do *nothing* but decrease damage

A great argument not only as to why not only we need this change, but also about how weapon stats bars are actively harming APB:Reloaded

why would I buy this pack over the Juggernaut?

I disagree and what about the CSG? RT came later, TAS-20 with RS3 and MP3 came much later - either you got a IR3 one or you didn't get it at all

Good call honestly

Which brings us back to my point (and why I personally appreciate the IR change) IR3 HS3 NTEC - CR762 tier TTK with CR762 tier range, this preset honestly works IR3 OBIR - It starts stomping on sniper rifle territory then there's other presets where this doesn't really work and only wrecks the weapon IR3 CSG - self explanatory, even with more drop-off it's still a shotgun and it'll only tickle you at range IR3 ATAC - the gun is simply not accurate enough to be a threat down range For the above two weapons - IR1 is still far from optimal, but it'd make them more usable short term. They weren't P2W tier OP (unlike other cash shop weapons that got nerfed) so one couldn't honestly expect them to be practically destroyed

what do you guys think of this?

Most mods in the game are honestly pretty nice as they are - IR was the outlier in that there was no real downside to it

It's clear that most IR3 presets got trashed by the patch. ATAC and CSG come to mind Now, this isn't the first time it happens - but it usually was due to clearly OP weapons being brought back in line, which isn't quite the case here I don't know what LO's plans are but as a bandaid fix I guess some ARMAS presets could have IR3 swapped out for IR1, as they work out what they want to do with them? Not the best thing but it should help a little bit for the time being

took him longer than you tbh