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I still don't understand the intention with the Strife's extremely low fire rate.. JG has about the same damage, can easily 2 shot kill, at the same range, but it can shoot almost 3 times by the time the strife shoots the second time.. Basically, more or less, you can expect to receive 3 hits before you are allowed to fire your second shot, overkill.. I think 1 second or 0.9 would be more fair

Though I agree with how it's frustrating to lose a mission due to bounty, I still agree more with how you put it, as balancing punishment in addition to open world feel, hopefully there will be a better solution than to remove it There is a difference between adding more cars and ruining them, and the speed boost is not a "buff" or balance, by that I meant a more realistic speed than 80km/h top speed for sports cars, which is not possible due to the latency and the tick rate mainly. This... every orange mode is useless now that you have to keep a field supplier on, or if you think you'll keep your vehicle next to you this often, then all blue vehicle mods are useless. This is what I disagree with honestly, I don't see how making low and high end cars equal makes sense, I don't see vehicles the same as weapons in term of "balancing". And since I'm posting anyway, I hate the balance of "low yields", they're useless now, they explode in a radius and damage of a popcorn, and I get bored of how many nades I have to toss under parked cars for them to explode. or how you can't flush people out of cover with them now, as covers usually are big enough, and damage is low enough..

Opinions? I got 3 comments on this.. - Don't touch the cars pls........ you'll ruin our fun, the only thing we ever wanted regarding cars was more speed if possible, and certainly more variety. - This isn't a road map, I support LO but this had no effort put into it, what sort of road map doesn't mention order of events and when to expect them, or any events for the matter, balance was last year's news which people were hoping you would abandon, engine upgrade is being delayed forever it's not a new event, and there is no mention of a date.. - Thank you, for postponing work on events, those feel like a chore to play, and I think other areas of the game are a priority. I understand you're probably hesitant to make promises, but it'd be better to wait and give news when you can confirm it. - If the engine is still far from done, can we get those contacts and you make some other contacts along with some other unlockables for the future? no? kthxbye

I'm sorry, I only read the summary, but I disagree, the game has a lot of meta strategy, unlike CS in my opinion, part of the mission is forcing the map positioning to your advantage, this is probably the main reason why I can't play CS anymore, IMO you get no more fun once you learn a map. Another thing in the game that supports this part of the meta strategy is that the teams don't always start in this or that position, missions may send you to the same area from different directions and timings (reaching first or last), thus the advantage of a location can turn to a disadvantage, instead you should rely on some plan to thwart that.

You make some valid points, I agree with the nerf part, the events were buggy, can't argue, but though I hate anything battle royal, Matt defended it saying it barely took time, and that most of the effort is reusable for future content (which can be true, just learning the code base while doing RIOT then throwing it away is still progress). However, on the other hand, the new guns, they're all fun, and balanced, which could not be said about any of G1's legendaries when they first appear, you remember the classic money grab then nerf by G1. Lastly about LO, the management, I think, they had many issues because they made many changes, servers went offline, for an extended duration, multiple times, but it was to move it to better equipment, to use better ISP, to setup some anti DDOS measures, G1 ignored every issue of those, and if you remember, we had DDOS way too often at G1's times, we also had the districts spiking to 50ms just due to players playing regularly. But then, you didn't mention much about G1 to show comparison, for instance, promising the engine upgrade for years, when in reality they had... 1 guy? if any, working on it, LO are actually showing their progress on the engine, and it's a lot of progress, though slower than they promised, but it's there. Then there is the issue with G1's pricing, which relied purely on whales to fund the game intentionally. Then lastly, the bans and cheaters, you probably remember that if you had posted something like this about G1, you'd end up banned, either by Tiggs or by an "automatic ban by Fairfight" many of which were actually manual GM bans using the system to pretend you were cheating, and besides that, the whole system was really broken, so many people were banned randomly, and we had a lot more cheaters than now. Which gives another point for LO, for both providing a much better anti cheat, and for unbanning a large number of players who were banned unfairly.

Besides, it's not like it's their intended design, specifically made to be good behind cover and weaker than SMGs in the open.

But that honestly doesn't make sense, I mean, 3 stk for shotguns... even corner popping won't help you if any SMG charges you, while at best case scenario you need 3 shots for them..

lol? they want to NERF strife? I mentioned before I think they want to nerf everything until the game becomes casual friendly, like a mobile game, shoot and you get 50% chance to kill or 50% chance to die, keep everyone "having fun"

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I understand Ursus is supposed to be balanced in relation to Ntec-5, and yes it should be, but people are already complaining for a while that it's a downgrade from Ntec-5, which I didn't agree with at all, until recently when they reverted IR3 (that revert is still in place right?) since then I feel it's a bit weaker, but from what I know there are no changes what-so-ever to Ursus or IR3 now. This is more of a confused opinion I guess, Ursus is changed or is it just some placebo?

Yea at this point I realized that L.O will fuck this part up real bad. I was anxious for balance, for reliability for shotguns without a buff, for buffing those unused weapons here and there which could bring a lot more fun. Then I realized their idea is to nerf anything to match the shittiest weapons, and instead of having a meta strategy plan of using the right weapon for the right scenario, and learning skills, instead they prefer to just make a spam fest of bullets and rely on 50 / 50 chances of each player dying or killing, thus giving everyone "their dose of fun". In my opinion Ntec-5 was the ideal target for the balance, Scout with jumpshooting, NHVR with damage over range (maybe even allowing long range QS), and other nades to get a slight buff if they're not matching up to low-yields, and I think the majority of weapons back this up as they're balanced to fit with this.

I think a Vegas / Kurai SUV hybrid is missing, where it's fast and solid

Funds for L.O. is nice, can mean a lot for APB:R if there is an investment in the game and bringing a large community. But it's sad that it's not only the rights to mobile titles but the franchise as a whole (except APB:R)

Don't like the chat, don't read it, or filter it, or ignore it, wth.. that's not a big issue... besides, how is it that only Russian is an issue? why not all the languages other than English?

And this second account to support you? what a coincidence it was just created, it's totally not you. Don't grief, don't be toxic, let people enjoy the game.

Though I agree with all of this and think the RFP is already OP, but as Skitty said, the nerf means it'll always take at least 4 bursts to kill, if I'm not mistaken, in the current version, you need to land 8 out of 9 shots in those bursts to kill, with the damage nerf, it'll need at least 10 shots, meaning larger ttk. Let's test this, maybe somehow the range will make sense.. What I'm more worried about though is the ammo boxes and shield becoming really useless.. I think 2 min cooldown makes them garbage, and no inventory access kills half the reason you may ever need them and Boombox is still as useless as ever.

As the title says, Joker Store is selling an old style Scout for 3600JT for 7 days, this is the only time limited weapon, and at a hefty price

Should've been a range based damage instead... also, I think scouts without jump shooting are a downgrade from nhvr

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My 2 cents, On the positive side: Interesting to read about this EMP grenade, this may feel like a new unique mechanic, nice to finally have new contacts, hopefully with more mods, radar jammer changes seem very well thought. On the not as positive side, the balance, I'm in favour of some balance changes, but my take on this is as follows: Shotguns generally were designed and intended around corner popping, this is how they are different from other CQC weapons, you lose in the open (slower ttk), you win behind cover, and I think this is brilliant. I agree that they need to be more reliable, but I don't like some of the changes, namely: - NFAS 0.72 is too much, it is intended as knife range, at which it'd be very deadly, and then useless, so I'd make it a bit more reliable, a bit slower to kill (it wouldn't be OP if first pellets didn't give more damage) - JG is unreliable yet OP sometimes atm, I wouldn't give it any buff, I wouldn't make its TTK competitive with CQC sub machine guns either - Shredder is broken atm, entirely, sometimes you shoot someone at 2-3m range, 5 shots, well aimed, and they brush it off and keep going, it should be a CSG range version of NFAS kinda - Ogre, would remove initial pellets giving more damage on this as well, and it'd be fine, wind up time is needed to force it's play style to corner waiting, it'd also be OP without it. -- I also don't think removing inventory access from munition boxes is a good idea, that's their main use, you don't use them in combination with a Field Supplier. --- I really think Boom Box needs a change, it's only useful on paper.

1- Buggy af. 2- How does the riot contact even progress? it's way too slow, and I'm not sure what to do. 3- Often you respawn so deep into the gas zones, hazmat suit expires, the warning delay expires, and your whole health depletes before you can sprint out of it. Happened to my whole team at some point that we all ran out of respawns trying to get out. 4- Vehicles ? difficult to implement but it's meh without 5- Takes too long to start. 6- Hazmat suit's cool down is way too long, maybe 20 sec instead. 7- Rewards? I know it's season 0 without rewards, but it needs more of the typical rewards, more $ and some way of obtaining standing, so people can play it as an alternative to missions. 8- Random teams is a minus. 9- BR, giant minus, from what I see, me included, the majority of APB players really hate BR. 10- Game flow seems too chaotic,, luck plays a big role. you either die too early before you collect money, or you collect and keep respawning, getting killed when trying to bribe the driver, but you don't get a confirmation of loss since you respawn, but you also don't get a confirmation of progression since it's in vain. It lacks strategy. * Generally the mode focuses on a negative feedback loop, which is only good for some particular game design flows, not riot imo. My suggestion which unless every member in the community insists on it, will be ignored as it's too different from original RIOT plan, convert this to faction or clan wars, you already have the map segmented, a mechanic to obtain zones is there, maybe keep the random weapons or allow player weapons, Let the faction/clan obtain zones and defend them, obtaining reward for holding out, delivered at match end, (divided by participating faction players, or divided by clan members, including the ones not participating at a smaller ratio). For this suggestion, it can either be active all the time as RIOT having smaller rewards, or being a daily/weekly event at a fixed scheduled time with bigger rewards (possibly including an increased rewards multiplier for the winners until the next event)

All the people saying macro doesn't give an advantage and blah blah, let's put it this way, if it only makes you able to use the gun at normal fire rate / accuracy like others and you couldn't do it yourself, you need to get kicked, why? coz we need greens & bronze and you pretend you're not one.

Personally I wouldn't buy stuff for that honestly, I can't perceive the value of the purchase anymore And then yea, ideally stats are always good, practically it's highly unlikely people don't start having placebos and raging about this and that Threat system itself I think is very good, it gives score to hidden things like saving a mission last moments, even if it never mentions it, so if you carry your team, your score will be really high even if you lose, the problem is the segments may be too few (though I think in the back it actually uses a ton more than 4 threats, + it almost certainly takes into consideration things like matching pings etc..), some things can be abused and need to be fixed, and it needs a lot more players to select from, 80 is simply not enough, most games select from a main lobby of hundreds if not thousands, I think Matt mentioned at some point a dynamic population merging solution (your district changes mid play with minor loading), that requires UE4, that, abuse fixes, and larger population would fix matchmaking And regarding the Armas, what I meant was awards given to players, not trials, but gifts given for a few days, multiple of them, to keep them testing this and that weapon, while they also have multiple choices instead of star, even if the gifts stop later

1- Why would I ever buy anything? What exclusivity does buying it give me? and how do I feel any value to it ? 2- Major change to APB play style to accommodate waiting periods and maybe a lobby to go with it. Make players wait more, fuck up matchmaking to find matching restrictions And why? to diminish gameplay mechanics & content 3- Maybe, but most of the time displaying usage statistics ends up making a negative feedback loop, oh that gun is shit because the usage stats say so, that gun is OP because more people use it, the community starts raging, such stats must exist, and must be reviewed by developers/game design, but they should not influence the community by themselves. - I think a proper matchmaking system with a lot of new players would solve this problem better by matching them together - If extra steps are to be taken, I think Armas trials are to be encouraged on new players, reward them now and then with a few days lease of some Armas gun so he can see what it is as well as return to the game to use it again and again before it expires.

You guys deserve a break now, and a celebration, most of the community won't understand the amount of stress, long hours and hard work put into this, as well as the panic. Thank you L.O., Hopefully it'll now be smooth sailing (if that exists in game dev) with the rest of your plans