Noob_Guardian

You were there for what? #.2-.3 and #.8-#.9 patches in 2013-14 right? Legit made the game run waaaay worse under G1 and never really got fixed.

not really, pdw is really pick up and go, and NFA is easy but not range friendly. FBW was used instead of snub for the starter pistol because it is arguably the best f2p pistol in the game (aside from JT guns). Showstopper is low effort, but that doesn't make it overpowered. It's not near as powerful as an nfas, and honestly a better analogy would that its more similar to the DOW in terms of spread. Spread at 10m: JG 150cm NFAS 150cm DOW 125cm STRIFE 100cm CSG 75cm SHREDDER 45cm "THUNDER" 44.55 Showstopper - 135cm Showstopper is far closer to the DOW in regards to shotgun spread, it's not tight like the CSG or Shredder but it's not extremely large like the JG or NFAS. Strife is arguably "middle of the line" in terms of shotgun spread. With the Modified Thunder to be like that of the Shredder. This is by no means overpowered. Most long range secondaries arguably suck so that's not really a fair thing to bring about. RSA noone uses because it's not really accurate, and its ttk is pretty much on par for the hvr but hits much less hard. Act 44 suffers from accuracy problems as well, while they did manage to fix some of that with the buff to both the RSA and ACT they are still both very much finicky when it comes to being reliable. FBW and .45 reaches out to semi mid range like the ACT but are more CQC oriented, which is why their ttk's are lower than the ACT. The most CQC ranged pistols have lower TTK's so that they can compete effectively at their niche, similar to how the ACT's TTK is that of midrange weapon and the RSA is that of the HVR with a range of 70m. Fr0g at .8 nfa at .63, pdw at .84 having a "shotgun pistol" at .7 is by no means overpowered for its niche. Some like the FBW and NANO are better at reaching out to 25-30m which is why their ttk's are closer to 1sec. I'm also excluding other JB guns. You cannot compare entirely different types of guns, meant for different niches and playstyles, to being on the same level anyways. Act 44's and RSA's range is largely dominated by the NTEC and OBEYA, worse accuracy and 2x the TTK of the NTEC. CQC pistols are meant to be more effective in CQC, which means they have to be better than the act would at range. They don't have the benefit of "time" while firing at people at range, because cqc battles are up close, which means TTK matters much more for CQC weapons and combat, than mid range ones. This is also why Odin series while fun, are ignored by a very large number of people, a cqc primary weapon with .84ttk is generally baaad. It's fine for a pistol, but not a primary.

meant shredder. nfa 9 has 32 rounds or so vs 6, NFA can kill players up to ~7m from my experience from using it and dying to it (but can be rough to do so i havnt used it since the buff). Yes it's not effective at kills past 5m, showstopper's ttk drastically increases to get kills past that generally to 4-6 shots. NFA has a very fast reload and generally 1 mag per kill. Showstopper can get 2 however nfa's reload is more friendly than showstoppers and you can't miss with the showstopper. NFA is full auto vs Semi auto. NFA mag dumps faster than the showstopper. Showstopper is/should to lose sub 5m against the NFA. Showstopper past 5m is on better grounds of winning. NFA ironically also has a 30m full damage range, in comparison to showstopper's 10. Showstoppers ttk gap barely matters against shotguns, it is roughly on par with other "competitive" pistols such as the fr0g series (which is arguably much better than the showstopper within showstopper range if you don't account for 1/3 life damage and go for ttk and rof when tagged) and the .45 which is also very effective but not nearly as forgiving. If the shotgun takes 3 hits to kill, all 3 pistols have a very good chance of finishing off the shotgun before the third shot. OFC people prefer the FBW (which is why i find the .45 and fr0g kokoe much better due to ttk and accuracy). So bringing primary shotguns into this has little meaning, considering that the last 3 cqc? Pistols created aside from JB funzies or harbinger, aka frog, .45, and showstopper, all have low TTKS. .7-.8 respectively and are exceedingly able to finish off a shotgun that misses once. iHe's not saying that they don't hit min TTK. I use showstopper at times, and it hits min ttk, however it exeedingly depends on my range. It's spread is large so past like 5m the TTK increases from .7 (which I don't macro so it's closer to .8-.9 or so for the ttk without accounting for missing and spread increasing STK) which is also a balanced ttk for the range its in. Even then using a JG and timing 2 shots, is easier than 3. The idea that cqc based pistols shouldn't be effective in cqc is asinine. There has to be pistols that can be able to be used as a backup for weapon's that cannot effectively be used in cqc, such as snipers. .45, fr0g, and now showstopper, fill that role without making the player have to essentially just die. Their ranges are limited for reason (aside from .45, but it's slight recoil and low mag balance it's range)

Pretty sure we had some bad radar tower glitches before LO as well, maybe its in my head but i'm sure it was glitched for some time under G1 as well. Because I used to use it until I realized it wasn't picking people up.

Thunder is 20-30m pistol, think of it as a strife. It's balanced around its intended niche. You can argue that, however, the showstopper acts more like an NFA than the NFAS and its ttk varies from .75 to 1s fairly consistently. It's not unbalanced, even from facing it and using it a number of times, I can't say it's broke. Forgiving? yes, however it's ttk still jumps to 4-5 hit kills fairly often past 5m making it 1s+ ttk. If it were broke, it would be far more powerful than what it is. I own one and I still find the fr0g and .45 more useful than either the showstopper or thunder, even with them both being good weapons.

overall performance has been decreasing steadily over years. It got so bad that my old laptop could no longer play APB after playing fine for 2 years, each patch made it worse. weapon balance is fine, shotguns are still an issue and looking at the ntec is also a good thing. They did the HVR because they didn't want to remove 3ps3 from the game, i agree its a bad hvr change, buuut that's what happens when you have mods break guns and have to find workarounds to fix it. (glances over at improved rifling) showstopper isn't even op, sheesh The mission rework is likely sometime after EU, heavy items aren't even an issue, its the turn in locations. Not only that but medium items still need to be unexploitable (bypass 3m/s movement speed via jump/drop exploit). Nah, nothing could have kept those players, because players, especially new players want more enjoyable matchups, and let's be honest, constantly facing players who spawn hunt you, snipe you from spawn, and are consistently "better" than you isn't fun. Radar has been broke since like, before LO, same with objectives, and desync. Most effort is going to EU, the community voted for it to be this way. Luckily LO has made it so that we get more content, albeit slowly even while the EU is being worked on.

So broken that almost noone owns or uses them. xD No really, if they really were broke and not niche, it'd be fricken C2 all over again

its the start of the cloud type structure i'd think

Almost like guns aren't generally as accurate while jumping, aside from most shotguns.

don't feel bad, i think my steam achievements for are broken/glitched. I'll never get the 2015 christmas one either, and for some reason I have yet to earn "Hitman" even with like 3k hours on steam, and 110k kills. Unless hitman is a crim achievement. I'm almost positive i should have grinded pistine by now on enf as well, and would have to bother with crim to get the other achievements. Maybe all but the christmas one is crim only now that i think about it...

You just noticed this? Lol Shoot the guy once or twice, spotter will trigger then, it won't at times if you don't. Your graphics are terrible btw, get a better pc.

can't say i've seen cheats lately either, just the same old people doing the same old bs though.

No, you're just a walking meme.

3? I've had even more than that reworked and changed. Nano, Scout, Shredder, to be strife, c9, atac, blah blah the list goes on. Most of them needed fixed, and the only reason I bought some of them (aside from the strife and shredder) was because of how broke they were to begin with. I bought em knowing they'd be nerfed in a few months/years. Sooo feels bad but doesnt I guess.

It's easier to say demon, and i think it's just the translation from stuff is easier to say demon. Oni vs Akuma for example, however, sometimes you'll hear them say Akuma, but it'll translate to "demon"

I remember testing it at least early 2013.

pretty much, its pure cqc so its ttk is fairly low you actually can, it's been like that forever.

Better full than red

nope however, jump shooting can be done easily without a custom crosshair as the crosshair doesn't disappear while jumping. It only applies to going in and out of sprint and some of the people who have autosprint enabled may use it. Most play vanille so it's not an issue.

If they are on the planetangent, you can snipe from the highway across the way and the skate park depending on where on the planetangent, you can also snipe/AR/rifle them from the border high roof. If they are on border high, you can snipe from the highway, or the construction area. Sometimes you can get lucky across the street in the little housing area. Also if you're into rushing, you can rush from below and jump on the vent if they are camping the ladders, or flank in from the skate park which tends to work well as well. grenades help as well.

riot wasn't done by the same people doing the upgrade at the time to my knowledge. juuust sayin

clearly a foe (meter), the red name gives it away. A red title under fieals green name doesn't mean anything to me. Even then I see the title demoness in the box, but since I actually *cough* read the red name before I fire. I have no issue with it. /shrug. actually, we don't get red titles because red is associated with <GM>

Why did the demon/demoness title change from red to burnt orange? It looked good in red

who knows, theres a lot of wierd links.

APB will be getting the upgrade, sadly no to motorcycles, helis, or boats due to physics. district would be nice car performance? No clue sounds interesting 4x4 growl ouuuu weapon skin designs were canned due to the amount of impact customization has on the game servers currently. (There's a reason why full gold/silver districts full of maxed out character customization bars run like trash in comparison to a full district of newbies/presets.)