Lautharo 10 Posted September 14, 2018 All shotguns are broken, just nerf it to save the game I love shotguns, they were always my favs weapons. But now are so fucking unbalanced 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clandestine 390 Posted September 14, 2018 Population already went to pre LO levels. They would revert the changes 2 weeks ago but I gotta admit at least they didn't make shotgun sales during this shit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mynd 120 Posted September 14, 2018 Yeah I've not been interested in playing since the first day the balance update rolled out, and have not played since then. Shotgun meta is my least desired meta. Honestly, I really am surprised they didn't rollback all of the balance changes made save maybe the Yukon nerf that was well-received by most. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ichinose 64 Posted September 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, Ignas / qsn said: starting to think that G1 did better job by doing nothing lol they only knew how to perma ban people for no reason... D**ks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alani 475 Posted September 14, 2018 shotguns are perfect. i have no idea what you are on about 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlatMan 711 Posted September 14, 2018 Crazy Idea. Make shotguns more accurate with less pellet spread, reduce damage to 600 JG, 550 CSG, 450 NFAS. Revert pellet damage change so all pellets deal the same damage. Revert rate of fire to slower rate of fire pre G1 buff/nerf. Give them the same damage dropoff as SMGs. Then, slightly buff SMG and AR accuracy so they can be used more effectively so shotguns are still outgunned past 15M. BAM, balanced! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted September 15, 2018 2 hours ago, MrsHappyPenguin said: Crazy Idea. Make shotguns more accurate with less pellet spread, reduce damage to 600 JG, 550 CSG, 450 NFAS. Revert pellet damage change so all pellets deal the same damage. Revert rate of fire to slower rate of fire pre G1 buff/nerf. Give them the same damage dropoff as SMGs. Then, slightly buff SMG and AR accuracy so they can be used more effectively so shotguns are still outgunned past 15M. BAM, balanced! not a big fan of this suggestion, especially with a majority of ARs currently losing range on the test districts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob_Guardian 417 Posted September 15, 2018 Ironic how everyone now suddenly hates the shotgun meta but absolutely loved it when the CSG was the go to weapon... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Noob_Guardian said: Ironic how everyone now suddenly hates the shotgun meta but absolutely loved it when the CSG was the go to weapon... im pretty sure no one liked that either, take all the shredder posts and swap the csg in and its like apb took a time machine back to 2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dett2 64 Posted September 15, 2018 Agree shotguns were fine but now broken OP. please revert the shotgun change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hexerin 1140 Posted September 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said: Ironic how everyone now suddenly hates the shotgun meta but absolutely loved it when the CSG was the go to weapon... Nobody liked that meta, and it was complained about with multiple threads daily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch4ncer 87 Posted September 15, 2018 Shotguns are great the way they are, just because you dont like it doesnt mean they have to change them. Get out. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Makta 5 Posted September 15, 2018 6 hours ago, BXNNXD said: 8 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said: Ironic how everyone now suddenly hates the shotgun meta but absolutely loved it when the CSG was the go to weapon... im pretty sure no one liked that either, take all the shredder posts and swap the csg in and its like apb took a time machine back to 2012 I've seen more shotgun hate in the last few weeks than i ever saw CSG hatel. The only thing that i feel should be fixed is the shredder and maybe the thumber? Alltho i am not sure about the latter as i don't care for that kind of shotguns so haven't used it enough myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted September 15, 2018 Check out the Testing Districts, they're changing shotgun again, but, surprise surprise, they're trying to take their time on this one because you nut jobs complained that they went ahead and changed the shotguns too soon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rikard86 32 Posted September 15, 2018 Pump-action shotguns right now are fine, they're supposed to be that strong in close range. The "bandaid" range nerf made it so that they can be fought with SMGs pretty easily, all they need now is the tune up they're getting in the upcoming patch and they're good, Test A JG feels very good to use and not weak at all. Shredder got overbuffed to hell and back, the game is borderline unplayable if the opposition has more than one on their team, can't wait for the nerf to drop tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgil 55 Posted September 15, 2018 11 hours ago, BXNNXD said: 12 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said: Ironic how everyone now suddenly hates the shotgun meta but absolutely loved it when the CSG was the go to weapon... im pretty sure no one liked that either, take all the shredder posts and swap the csg in and its like apb took a time machine back to 2012 was nothing like you describe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch4ncer 87 Posted September 15, 2018 The only shotgun representative that needs to be nerfed is the Shredder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob_Guardian 417 Posted September 15, 2018 15 hours ago, BXNNXD said: 16 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said: Ironic how everyone now suddenly hates the shotgun meta but absolutely loved it when the CSG was the go to weapon... im pretty sure no one liked that either, take all the shredder posts and swap the csg in and its like apb took a time machine back to 2012 Except you had a lot more "big name" people by far saying the csg is balanced. It's pretty much general consensus that the shredder needs a rof increase and less pellet Overkill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted September 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Noob_Guardian said: It's pretty much general consensus that the shredder needs a rof increase and less pellet Overkill Source? Is there another forum Im not aware of? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) Lmao. Now that they broke them after countless warnings you cry. Now you enjoy your broken weapons and only shotgun game. Edited September 15, 2018 by Excalibur! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dett2 64 Posted September 16, 2018 Not only shredder please nerf thumper too. both blatant broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob_Guardian 417 Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) On 9/15/2018 at 2:32 PM, CookiePuss said: Source? Is there another forum Im not aware of? I mean, unless you have seen a different consensus like "nerf it to the ground and make it no different than the nfas" which i've seen people post. The general idea i've seen when it comes to actually balancing it within its niche is that it 100% needs at least its TTK increased back to ~.85, and its overkill damage decreased (from the shotgun buff) so its less forgiving. There's other suggestions i've seen as well like "decrease range to like 10-15m" and "nerf hard damage to the ground" but those i've seen come from people who neither know its niche or hate it with a passion and want it completely useless. Edited September 17, 2018 by Noob_Guardian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites