RECENT APB BANS

[Deadliest 383]

3 hours ago, SuperChaffee said:

EAC bans are automatic, so LO support has nothing to do with that, and by LO rule they don't provide information about bans, you can know that because LO makes the mention that they can't provide information about banning other players, also it is known that vpns can trigger EAC alerts, regardless of people saying it's safe, You should not trust third party apps and especially not one that EAC knows is used by cheaters, and also just because a TGM is banned doesn't mean anything, in the end they are also normal players who applied for the position and are subject to the same rules as EAC or LO and therefore if they use cheats or third party apps they can be banned, just because they are TGM doesn't mean they have protection.

 

TOS doesn't say anything about using VPNS, program doesn't modified the game, so how does EAC automatic ban you using a known VPN program?

 

What do you mean by EAC alerts? they are known to use by hackers? There are many players who rely on Exitlag or commercial known vpns to get better latency and routing on NA, besides they merged all players from other region onto NA. I know most of the Oceania player base are using exitlag for years they haven't been banned, even though it may reduce latency but it's better than playing on 260+ MS, yea APB don't support it, LO can't reduce the pings no troubleshoot / traceroute will reduce latency. 

 

In one case 1 Aussie bee man twitch streamer was banned by EAC who claim it was falsely and was using ExitLag probably to play on EU. My guess is the IP that was assign to him was flagged and LO unprofessional staff manually banned him.

 

I still believe APB reloaded is still running a free version of EAC its not even in EAC supported game listed nor on banned appeal game list, so how do they appeal for unjustified bans?

 

Reason why actual cheaters don't get banned.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Deadliest

[SuperChaffee 69]

On 10/2/2023 at 10:34 AM, PingOVER9000 said:

 

Lately I was thinking, despite as always LO decide of  totally ignore the community, The numbers of weirdos claiming of  talking on behalf of LO are increasing...  

 

So the next it will appear, I can legit hope he/she'll wear the magick stick and the bunny suit for  special medical division and resolve all the game problems?

We are just players who love the game and know and follow the rules, I personally appreciate what LO has done for us, but that doesn't mean I speak for them, I also have no relationship with LO, I am just another player.

 

Merged.

 

On 10/2/2023 at 10:46 AM, Deadliest said:

TOS doesn't say anything about using VPNS, program doesn't modified the game, so how does EAC automatic ban you using a known VPN program?

 

What do you mean by EAC alerts? they are known to use by hackers? There are many players who rely on Exitlag or commercial known vpns to get better latency and routing on NA, besides they merged all players from other region onto NA. I know most of the Oceania player base are using exitlag for years they haven't been banned, even though it may reduce latency but it's better than playing on 260+ MS, yea APB don't support it, LO can't reduce the pings no troubleshoot / traceroute will reduce latency. 

Banning such applications is something EAC does and not the game, so when you receive an EAC ban, you should contact them, if you contact the game support they will tell you that you should appeal with the anticheat.

 

EAC can ban applications that modify the game and also applications that can be used to evade the anticheat systems, vpns are one of those.

 

By EAC alerts I mean that the anticheat detects something unusual and flags the account for investigations.

[Deadliest 383]

1 hour ago, SuperChaffee said:

Banning such applications is something EAC does and not the game, so when you receive an EAC ban, you should contact them, if you contact the game support they will tell you that you should appeal with the anticheat.

 

EAC can ban applications that modify the game and also applications that can be used to evade the anticheat systems, vpns are one of those.

 

By EAC alerts I mean that the anticheat detects something unusual and flags the account for investigations.

What is this Bulldust? You don't work for LO why do you type like someone from customer support?  Please explain the process for everyone and tell us what's wrong with it. https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/game/contact/appeal/

 

We already know EAC ban suspicious applications (hacks), and to stop cheaters evading EAC does Hardware ID Bans. You can't say everyone who's using Exitlag or VPN are trying to evade the anti cheat system, when they played on the same hardware ID and has no ban history even with the use of VPN.

 

Even the Valorant anti cheat (Riot Vanguard) doesn't even ban vpn programs, so what makes you think EAC would ban something like NordVPN or Exitlag. 

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by Deadliest

[PingOVER9000 189]

1 hour ago, Deadliest said:

I still believe APB reloaded is still running a free version of EAC its not even in EAC supported game listed nor on banned appeal game list,

 

Without any answer from LO, This assumation alone it may explain a lot of things such as why the cheaters problem is not resolved, the false positives and so my right assumation the anticheat isnt updated from anyone and why  in business and life the ""free-things in medium/long" period are always a bait such as free dinners in mixers party  or free atm card carge before meeting clients transictions 

1 hour ago, SuperChaffee said:

I personally appreciate what LO has done for us

For us.. or for you maybe? anyway no need to tell how much sweat out the hypocrisy from your speechs...

 

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by PingOVER9000

[SuperChaffee 69]

On 10/2/2023 at 12:00 PM, Deadliest said:

What is this Bulldust? You don't work for LO why do you type like someone from customer support?  Please explain the process for everyone and tell us what's wrong with it. https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/game/contact/appeal/

 

 

 

As I said in my previous messages, if you read them, I don't work for or have any relationship with LO, secondly, I'm sorry if you don't like the way I talk, but that's how I talk, and thirdly, I mention that vpns are used to bypass anticheat systems, but I'm not saying that everyone who has a vpn uses it for that purpose, you should be more careful with your words. 

 

And lastly I'm not blaming or accusing anyone, as you can see in all my previous posts, I'm just trying to give my advice.

 

Merged.

 

On 10/2/2023 at 12:13 PM, PingOVER9000 said:

 

For us.. or for you maybe? anyway no need to tell how much sweat out the hypocrisy from your speechs...

 

 

LO gave us all great things, events, weapons, the implementation of the 64 bit system and now they are working to give us a new matcmaking, new contacts and content, I appreciate their effort and I will always support them, for me they have shown their great love to the community, and unlike many people I prefer to be positive rather than being negative and complaining about everything. 

 

It's amazing what LO has achieved with so few staff.

 

 

[Y2Venom 219]

25 minutes ago, SuperChaffee said:

LO gave us all great things, events, weapons, the implementation of the 64 bit system and now they are working to give us a new matcmaking, new contacts and content, I appreciate their effort and I will always support them, for me they have shown their great love to the community, and unlike many people I prefer to be positive rather than being negative and complaining about everything. 

 

It's amazing what LO has achieved with so few staff.

 

 

being positive is a difficult task with this game. To see players who have been cheating for such a long time get banned made me happy. At the same time i see the combined efforts to undermine EAC and LO on this forum ,Twitch and other platforms. It actually makes me sad that we lost so many players to something so stupid, such as cheating. These combinded efforts would have made a pretty decent not cheating clan.

[n0xlol 6]

9 hours ago, proxie said:

Hello,

I appreciate your message regarding the recent bans in the game. It's essential to address these concerns with a focus on the principles of fair play and transparency.

 

First and foremost, it's important to clarify that, as with any online game, the developers and the LO team are not obligated to provide individual attention or statements to banned players. This principle applies to all players, including those with a history of cheating. Just as any other banned cheater is not entitled to personal communication or special consideration, the same standard applies here.

 

Cheating in online games fundamentally undermines the integrity of the gaming experience for everyone involved. Therefore, it's crucial to view the issue through this lens and recognize that those who have engaged in cheating activities have, in the past, disrupted the gameplay experience for others. Moreover, it's important to consider the consequences of association with cheaters. Engaging with cheaters or individuals who associate with cheaters can cast doubt on the legitimacy of any complaints or concerns regarding bans. The gaming community values fair competition, and actions surrounding cheating can significantly impact one's standing in the community.

 

When assessing the validity of claims, it's important to consider the context of past bans. Actions have consequences, and those who have previously violated the rules of fair play naturally face skepticism when raising concerns about bans. The gaming community relies on anti-cheat systems to maintain a level playing field, and the history of a player can be a significant factor in assessing the legitimacy of their claims.

 

Lastly, it's worth noting that the anti-cheat system, in this case, EAC, is known for its reliability in targeting actual cheaters while minimizing false positives. EAC operates with caution, focusing solely on cheating-related activities and aiming to ensure fairness in the game. This reputation for accuracy should be considered when evaluating the legitimacy of ban-related concerns.

 

In conclusion, the principles of fairness and integrity are paramount in the gaming community. Banned players, especially those associated with cheating, are not entitled to special treatment or personal communication from developers. It's crucial to maintain a fair and respectful gaming environment for all players, and actions related to cheating should be viewed in that context.

 

Thank you for bringing up this matter, and I hope that it helps to clarify the situation.

 

Best regards,

Didn't know you were an EAC specialist how or how ban policies work. Funny how voerman makes the post about darleenko but yet the 8bit group browse the forum like theres no tomorrow. You guys got a weird obsession. 

 

[DarIeenko 47]

Not gonna lie, I wasn't really expecting anything smart from those that used to hate me for ages now and I also couldn't care less, but this post is made for the people that take it seriously since, am not the only one that is affected. So please do us a favour and try to be funny somewhere else. 

[TheMessiah 430]

5 hours ago, SuperChaffee said:

now they are working to give us a new matcmaking, new contacts and content

The fact dat he admit dat 1 person workin on the game-is enough for me.1 person workin on a game like apb and we expect new content..when u have in mind they "work" even longer on their own games Unsung Story(since 2015)and s.t.f.u-both not even launched yet.They cant deal with online games and thats it.All their old titles are simple single player games.Most likely this company is dead the worse thing is dat he sold the APB IP(if is not a lie)and now we will sink with them.U stay positive all u want

Edited October 2, 2023 by TheMessiah

[PingOVER9000 189]

On 10/2/2023 at 5:54 PM, DarIeenko said:

Not gonna lie, I wasn't really expecting anything smart from those that used to hate me for ages now and I also couldn't care less, but this post is made for the people that take it seriously since, am not the only one that is affected. So please do us a favour and try to be funny somewhere else. 

Honestly I have no idea what you're expecting.

 

If you have made a little trip around in the forum,  adding the answer you have received you would've understood.

The fact you're a streamer is nothing and change nothing, seeing at first sight your content you've just cared for your business and just mainly recording or broadcasting video while playing, you add basically nothing to the community or make something as other streamer or content creator sometimes reporting the game situation, make some criticizing to state of APB and game own company regularly... except now you are InVolVeD too... If I am wrong for what I told, I excuse myself in advance, but I dont think so.

 

Btw, The world doesnt spin around you and you can see a lot of players here are very mad with Little Orbit for having scammed the community and the lies of all these years.

 

Anyway trying to helping and syntetize you:

 

- As told from @Deadliest, ""Neither APB Reloaded as a game, nor LO as a publisher,  aren't officially supported from EAC"" at least seeing the list here https://www.easy.ac/en-us/partners/,  there's a possibility it's just a free version of the EAC anticheat, that's may explain why the reports and ban players are receiving are so shallow and APB reloaded is neither recorded in the games bar for making a contact ban appeal.

 

-Clearly and main point sadly... MATT/ LO STAFF D O E S N' T CARE  THE GAME AND THE COMMUNITY, so I suggest dont expecting a lot of an answer, and in case of one answer, of it satisfty you and the others banned.

 

They arent' answering to the questions players had before, and the complaints we have now, so I suggest you dont getting a headache for nothing, they arent worthy enough for it neither.

 

So now you can make 3  things:

 

1. Leave and Wait again LO make an unban wave
2. Whatever, Make a new character and continue play if you like the game.
3. Leave

 

GL

 

On 10/2/2023 at 12:50 PM, SuperChaffee said:

they are working to give us a new matcmaking, new contacts and content,

if you arent a hypocrital, Are you Insult removed.    - Azukii, right?

You've just told something like you arent LO bs whatveryouwrote, so from whatever and whenever these claims of yours come?

[Yapopal 165]

In recent years, the average level of players has grown significantly. Some people do not want to lag behind and use various types of doping, not always legal. Justifying my choice with a herd thought - everyone does it, and I will do it. And then the anti-cheat, triggered with a wild delay, bans everyone from this herd... And then this herd puts likes on the first post in this forum topic.

[DarIeenko 47]

On 10/2/2023 at 6:59 PM, PingOVER9000 said:

Honestly I have no idea what you're expecting.

 

If you have made a little trip around in the forum,  adding the answer you have received you would've understood.

The fact you're a streamer is nothing and change nothing, seeing at first sight your content you've just cared for your business and just mainly recording or broadcasting video while playing, you add basically nothing to the community or make something as other streamer or content creator sometimes reporting the game situation, make some criticizing to state of APB and game own company regularly... except now you are InVolVeD too... If I am wrong for what I told, I excuse myself in advance, but I dont think so.

 

Btw, The world doesnt spin around you and you can see a lot of players here are very mad with Little Orbit for having scammed the community and the lies of all these years.

 

Anyway trying to helping and syntetize you:

 

- As told from @Deadliest, ""Neither APB Reloaded as a game, nor LO as a publisher,  aren't officially supported from EAC"" at least seeing the list here https://www.easy.ac/en-us/partners/,  there's a possibility it's just a free version of the EAC anticheat, that's may explain why the reports and ban players are receiving are so shallow and APB reloaded is neither recorded in the games bar for making a contact ban appeal.

 

-Clearly and main point sadly... MATT/ LO STAFF D O E S N' T CARE  THE GAME AND THE COMMUNITY, so I suggest dont expecting a lot of an answer, and in case of one answer, of it satisfty you and the others banned.

 

They arent' answering to the questions players had before, and the complaints we have now, so I suggest you dont getting a headache for nothing, they arent worthy enough for it neither.

 

So now you can make 3  things:

 

1. Leave and Wait again LO make an unban wave
2. Whatever, Make a new character and continue play if you like the game.
3. Leave

 

GL

 

if you arent a hypocrital, Are you Insult removed.    - Azukii, right?

You've just told something like you arent LO bs whatveryouwrote, so from whatever and whenever these claims of yours come?

I don't really understand why you brought in the "streamer" role here even though I didn't even mention it. I posted this forum post as a player and not as a streamer. But since you already started. What exactly do you mean I haven't contributed anything to the community? I've hosted events, giveaways and, together with CET, I've probably hosted the biggest tournament ever in APB, i have also critizied the game more than enough and added my point of view, despite that i am not here to talk about what i have done for the Communit and what not, but as I understand it, you seem to have no idea. And again, I'm not here because I'm a "streamer"and think I'll be better served, but as a player who just finds it strange what's going on with EAC lately.

[PingOVER9000 189]

1 hour ago, DarIeenko said:

I don't really understand why you brought in the "streamer" role here even though I didn't even mention it. I posted this forum post as a player and not as a streamer. But since you already started. What exactly do you mean I haven't contributed anything to the community? I've hosted events, giveaways and, together with CET, I've probably hosted the biggest tournament ever in APB, i have also critizied the game more than enough and added my point of view, despite that i am not here to talk about what i have done for the Communit and what not, but as I understand it, you seem to have no idea. And again, I'm not here because I'm a "streamer"and think I'll be better served, but as a player who just finds it strange what's going on with EAC lately.

First, I brought nothing, I am just pondering the facts.

the fact is I as others, we have had quite a problem understanding from where your data coming from, so I've just read other comments and googled for founding out you are streamer, honestly until a while ago I've no idea who you were one at all.

Btw I have checked for the tournament and other help you mean, I dont think it was something big compared to others I remind and  anyway for what I understood you've just participated, as I told before, not for just a case I've never heard about of you done something for the community... not a demerit eh, just you arent what you think and describe, it's perfectly fine, you are just a streamer of your gametime not a contenent creator.

 

Closing the circle upside, People before and also so I, we try to tell you the possible reasons about EAC, instead of commenting about the possible matter or LO SiLeNcE you continue prefer showing off... I dont think I have to repeat myself and same speech for the other people above,  you seems not interested enough and as I told and you know already...

 

LO staff will not answer or at least surely with something which it'll  NoT satisfty you and the others banned, because

T H E Y    D O N' T    C A R E.

 

Bye

 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by PingOVER9000

[TzickyT 212]

On 10/1/2023 at 7:50 PM, DarIeenko said:

Darleenko's motivation letter to know why the got banned

I'm quite intrigued to learn that a "TGM" has been banned by the EAC. Such occurrences are rather rare, and it makes me wonder what might have prompted this action. It's always fascinating to stay in the loop about the ongoings within the gaming community and beyond.

 

its funny that you mention that someone got banned for symbols. i seen a lot of people running around with symbols - making new accounts and streambomming certain inviduals with it. for me im happy they are gone. like you can't say that that is not a good reason enough to ban somebody from the game. even if it is a manual ban. i don't realy care about those toxic behaving people.

so all bans that have been occured are all manual ? and added on EAC. so this must be that these accounts have been flagged multiple times and now lo is taking care of every account and checking them. seems fair. must be already reason enough that something is up with these accounts or something fishy is going on. maybe toxic behaviour. i dunno.

i can not beleve that all accounts have been just manualy been added this would give me ffbans vibes where all bans were manual. but i don't realy think the bans are unjust. there must be a good reason for all these bans to happen.

So all the individuals that are recently banned are considered "healthy" players? while those who continue to play are labeled as "unhealthy" players? I find this perplexing. It's difficult to believe that individuals engaging in toxic behavior, cheating, or using unauthorized programs could be classified as healthy players.

you have contacted multiple players. OK ... do you know what they use on there pc? are those guys trustfull? have you seen what they used while they played the game in the beginning of EAC ( as these are manual it can be flagged maybe from when eac was implemented). its not like everyone is going to say oh i have toxic behaviour or i use bad symbols on my car or funny enough ... i cheat and use programs to modify my game. but it seems like everyone goes to the safe bet - VPN.

Regarding VPN - The point being - If there's an anti-cheat system in place, using a VPN is not going to disguise the fact you're using any widely known VPN service. Check the game's policies to see what they have to say about VPN services for better info.

I'm curious about what LO will have to say on this matter. It's quite possible that the only official communication will come from the support team. It's doubtful that individuals like Matt, Ritual, Sakkabee, or Stitchly will publicly address this issue, and there's a likelihood that the details may not be disclosed to the public.

[CookiePuss 5375]

I’m curious, how do we know a TGM got banned? I’ve been a little out of the loop.

[MACKxBOLAN 426]

17 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

I’m curious, how do we know a TGM got banned? I’ve been a little out of the loop.

I'm convinced the entire bit is Propaganda. 

 It is Based on Hear-Say, Rumor, and Gossip.

 

[Y2Venom 219]

1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

I'm convinced the entire bit is Propaganda. 

 It is Based on Hear-Say, Rumor, and Gossip.

 

Thats what it is. I think they are trying to push LO into a response, by making up nonsense. For the past year they were not even closeting. They were Out and Proud and wanted the world to know. Macro handguns, going to town with their Obirs. Just steamrolling new players on a daily basis.

[BlatMan 706]

15 hours ago, Deadliest said:

TOS doesn't say anything about using VPNS, program doesn't modified the game, so how does EAC automatic ban you using a known VPN program?

 

What do you mean by EAC alerts? they are known to use by hackers? There are many players who rely on Exitlag or commercial known vpns to get better latency and routing on NA, besides they merged all players from other region onto NA. I know most of the Oceania player base are using exitlag for years they haven't been banned, even though it may reduce latency but it's better than playing on 260+ MS, yea APB don't support it, LO can't reduce the pings no troubleshoot / traceroute will reduce latency. 

 

In one case 1 Aussie bee man twitch streamer was banned by EAC who claim it was falsely and was using ExitLag probably to play on EU. My guess is the IP that was assign to him was flagged and LO unprofessional staff manually banned him.

 

I still believe APB reloaded is still running a free version of EAC its not even in EAC supported game listed nor on banned appeal game list, so how do they appeal for unjustified bans?

 

Reason why actual cheaters don't get banned.

 

The bee guy ban is what made me question these bans. I wasn't sure if it was a rumor at first.

 

I doubt it was the VPN software. There would be many players getting banned. I would have been banned since I was trying multiple VPNs, but I haven't tried a "gaming" VPN like ExitLag or WTFast. EAC screwing up the identity of players makes sense, or maybe there's a bug with specific hardware/software configs.

[Nabiki 65]

On 10/1/2023 at 12:50 PM, DarIeenko said:

Hello, i know there is already a topic about this but I'd like to say my two cents on the subject as well as show you some elements concerning the latest bans.

 

I know that a TGM  as well as dozens of other players have also been banned in the last month.

Among them are casual players, silvers, veterans never accused of toxicity and/or cheating etc. and then there is me.

These bans all or mostly EAC bans. However, as shown elsewhere they seem to be manual and for different reasons.

Even today some people who rarely play APB, mature people, non-toxic players have been banned for cheating after years of never cheating or even being accused of cheating by the community. 

Bans that we did not expect and that remove from the game that last healthy part that you had left of it, that is, people who can devote the right amount of time to a game, without arrogance or being competitive at all costs.

 

One of this case is about a player that received an EAC ban despite then, in later conversations with Support, he discovered that the reason for his ban was not related to cheating but more for ingame violation (using a certain symbol) so why does he get banned by EAC? 

 

I've contacted multiple of the banned players, to try and find out what kind of possible third party applications they were using and mostly what i got as an answer were VPNs which are allowed as far as i know. 

About me, i have never used any kind of unapproved Programs and the only Program that i used before starting APB was Mudfish which helps me to avoid Packetloss.

 

Since this affected a lot of Players I would like to have a statement from Matt and the LO team regarding this matter.

We just would like to know if there is any investigation already ongoing? 

 

@MattScott @Stitchly @Ritual @Sakebee 

Reading this wall along with every post in this forums and knowing how many of these peeps act in game its a wonder they didn't get banned years ago for harrassing fellow players and being over all toxic in general.  If it were up to me and LO hired me as their spokes person I would tell you all to: Get Bent!

[SuperChaffee 69]

9 minutes ago, Nabiki said:

Reading this wall along with every post in this forums and knowing how many of these peeps act in game its a wonder they didn't get banned years ago for harrassing fellow players and being over all toxic in general.  If it were up to me and LO hired me as their spokes person I would tell you all to: Get Bent!

Amen.

[CookiePuss 5375]

19 minutes ago, Nabiki said:

Get Bent!

 

Luckily we have polite and respectable folks like you.

[Jiim 34]

9 hours ago, TzickyT said:

@TzickyT
"i seen a lot of people running around with symbols - making new accounts and streambomming certain inviduals with it"
Exactly, which is why this guy who had never been banned even temporarily before and was invited by an in-game GM to remove a writing on his car (not necessarily offensive - according to many) suffered after a few hours the only ban of his life in game, despite the removal of the said symbol by his hand and despite, as mentioned, having been warned "otherwise"... His ban is manual, since, although he received the same ban as Darleenko, Support subsequently explained to him that the reason was the design and the use of this phrase on his vehicle. Does this seem like fair treatment to you when, as you say, you see people in game who are always given more than one chance despite their designs?

"So all the individuals that are recently banned are considered "healthy" players?"
Nobody wrote that "all" of them are "healthy players". However, as mentioned above, there is more than one doubt about the reasons and the procedure that led to a sanction against them. I can assure you, however, that among them there are profiles of unsuspecting people, even family men. Guys with jobs, casual players, veteran players who have never been banned before, and polite people in and out of the game. Quite the opposite of what evidently makes up the majority of users in this game.

Nice post anyway, definitely logical and sober.

@CookiePuss
Hi Cooky, how's it going? Regarding your question, the guy mentioned is a person who contacted us. We know almost everyone in this community and therefore their roles, there is no point in hiding. His case is also rather bizarre since after being selected for the role of GM, after weeks and in conjunction with the start of these manual bans, he was attributed a series of violations resulting in a ban. I wonder how they choose their employees and, as previously mentioned, whether the procedure is correct and without any margin of doubt.

@Nabiki
Assuming and insinuating that these players were sanctioned for toxicity rather than an error of evaluation, or a system error, or a ban which in any case does not concern their behavior towards others such as "account sharing" (always if proven), you are behaving in a toxic way towards them and you are the one who should review your attitude in this community.

 

[TzickyT 212]

1 hour ago, Jiim said:

"i seen a lot of people running around with symbols - making new accounts and streambomming certain inviduals with it"
Exactly, which is why this guy who had never been banned even temporarily before and was invited by an in-game GM to remove a writing on his car (not necessarily offensive - according to many) suffered after a few hours the only ban of his life in game, despite the removal of the said symbol by his hand and despite, as mentioned, having been warned "otherwise"... His ban is manual, since, although he received the same ban as Darleenko, Support subsequently explained to him that the reason was the design and the use of this phrase on his vehicle. Does this seem like fair treatment to you when, as you say, you see people in game who are always given more than one chance despite their designs?

It doesn't matter whether he did it once or multiple times, or if he was temporarily banned for it. If the company explicitly states that such actions are not allowed and considers them a significant offense, you will be terminated. It all boils down to what the company's policy are.

1 hour ago, Jiim said:

"So all the individuals that are recently banned are considered "healthy" players?"
Nobody wrote that "all" of them are "healthy players". However, as mentioned above, there is more than one doubt about the reasons and the procedure that led to a sanction against them. I can assure you, however, that among them there are profiles of unsuspecting people, even family men. Guys with jobs, casual players, veteran players who have never been banned before, and polite people in and out of the game. Quite the opposite of what evidently makes up the majority of users in this game.
 

Look at the sentence that was written here "Bans that we did not expect and that remove from the game that last healthy part that you had left of it," .

This sentence indicates to me that LO - banned all the people that were considered the last healthy part of the community.

Let me get this straight

1. You're unsure about the reasons for others' bans. As mentioned earlier, one person got banned for offensive symbols, now the question is what are the others banned for? if the individual got banned for cheating or toxic behaviour do you think most wil say why they got banned for? i doubt it. its an individual message u need to write to LO support to recieve that answer. if they don't want to answer u than thats the problem of the person who got banned in the first place.

 

2.  You're bringing up gamers' backgrounds in the context of bans. You're highlighting that LO appears to take personal factors like someone being a responsible family person, punctual at work, or kind to their spouse into account. However, this is not the case. ban's can occure everywhere. doesn't matter if you are a good semarithan or the pope. do you think that a serial killer who has lived like the kindest person alive before he started killing would get a sentence reduction? ( im probebly going overboard on this but thats my thought about it)

 

3. You are comparing EAC (Easy Anti-Cheat) to FFBans. One manual ban has been mentioned, and you're wondering if this means most people received manual bans. this can be true and also false. as you stil don't know if it was manual or not. its not that 1 person has a manual ban that you recieve a manual ban. This is basicly saying EAC is controlled by Tigg's at this point. concludes all cheaters are banned for not reason and need to get there accounts back becous unfair bans.

 

4. we know that LO has strict policy against bans in general. A zero-tolerance approach is not bad.

 

What's the next step? Personally, I hold no personal agrudges towards individuals like Darleenko or anyone else who has faced a ban initially. If someone has engaged in cheating, displayed toxicity, or used threatening symbols or any other behavior violating the Terms of Service (TOS), it's their own responsibility. However, I firmly believe that individuals should be provided with a clear and explicit explanation for their bans. If it turns out that they are still subject to a ban, than it is said so. my opinion is that you will stay in the category of banned until proven wrongly.

[Nabiki 65]

3 hours ago, Jiim said:

 

Oh Jim I am very well behaved not a single ban since I created this account in 2011.

 

I mean I don't put unwanted items on my clothing,  cars.

 

I don't make multiple accounts just  to harass fellow streamers.

 

No configs, no third party software I mean I run a pure vanilla game.

 

i don't be hateful no racism to be found i might curse on occasion but that's not really bad. 

 

All my years not a single ban gee I wonder why? maybe I am a model of the community after all.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Nabiki

[Jiim 34]

"It doesn't matter whether he did it once or multiple times"
Instead, it does matter, since "the law" should in theory be the same for everyone. You'd be the first to complain if it didn't. Therefore, if for the same attitude and/or "offense" that led to the ban of one of these guys, we made an exception every day for other individuals this would only mean that the system is wrong at the source.

"Look at the sentence that was written here"
This means people clearly who we know about and have been sanctioned.

"You're bringing up gamers' backgrounds in the context of bans"
Of course I also do, given that many around and even some here in this discussion take it for granted that since they are banned they are either cheaters or toxic etc. Instead, you should learn that they are and have been for years even better in game (polite, respectful and correct) than those who easily judge them. They are then, as explained, completely different profiles from what one would expect. This doesn't mean that LO shouldn't sanction a family man, read carefully.

"as you stil don't know if it was manual or not" or "its not that 1 person has a manual ban that you recieve a manual ban"
We're talking about at least a dozen people whose emails we've read. These are manual bans and it's not me who says it but Support itself who explains it to the interested parties. Darleenko, like other people (even non-banned ones) are asking for explanations for some bans we know of that don't seem legitimate at all from the point of view of a more careful observer. I can understand, however, that those who are "out of the loop" as you also wrote about yourself, want to draw hasty conclusions.

"I firmly believe that individuals should be provided with a clear and explicit explanation for their bans"
This is the reason for the discussion and we agree.

 

Merged.

 

On 10/3/2023 at 1:02 PM, Nabiki said:

Oh Jim I am very well behaved not a single ban since I created this account in 2011.

 

I mean I don't put unwanted items on my clothing,  cars.

 

I don't make multiple accounts just  to harass fellow streamers.

 

No configs, no third party software I mean I run a pure vanilla game.

 

i don't be hateful no racism to be found i might curse on occasion but that's not really bad. 

 

All my years not a single ban gee I wonder why? maybe I am a model of the community after all.

In my eyes, if you behave like this you are a role model, yes.