Are you fking blind?

[El-Neko 30]

Honestly its fine now. You should see the PMG's history with buffs and nerfs through out its history. Its pretty much in a good spot its just everything else is all over the place with balancing so it gives the illusion that its "OP".

[NotZombieBiscuit 3146]

5 hours ago, El-Neko said:

Honestly its fine now. You should see the PMG's history with buffs and nerfs through out its history. Its pretty much in a good spot its just everything else is all over the place with balancing so it gives the illusion that its "OP".

That 2011 PMG was so useless it was better to just use a snubnose.

[DeadPixels 253]

Everybody knows what's wrong with the PMG, it's to much accurate. With other SMGs even if your tracking is 100% some bullets will still miss the target. With PMG this doesn't happen, that's why it's more reliable and players favorite. It needs range reduced

[Mitne 724]

Month without moan about PMG would be month lost.

[El-Neko 30]

3 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

That 2011 PMG was so useless it was better to just use a snubnose.

Good times.

[Queen of Love 453]

Is just easy to use, nothing more.

[wHisHi 206]

Make it less powerful so it will fit other weapons. 

3 hours ago, DeadPixels said:

Everybody knows what's wrong with the PMG, it's to much accurate. With other SMGs even if your tracking is 100% some bullets will still miss the target. With PMG this doesn't happen, that's why it's more reliable and players favorite. It needs range reduced

 

[MartisLTU 265]

Hmm ... Tbh. players using PMG more often in this days. That shows something is not right. Since ages players who seek ez kills were moving from one weapon to another as soon as they feel that balance changed. 

 

I think there is problem not with PMG but with ghostshots, bad hitreg and balance .... i don't know maybe im wrong ,but when im using slower fire rate weapons im getting way better hitreg. And PMG is kinda slower fire rate smg maybe this is why its so effective ? it doesn't get effective by bad hitreg and ghostshots.

Edited August 8, 2020 by MartisLTU

[CookiePuss 5378]

Its weird how some ideas take on a life of their own.

I guess let's just nerf everything.

[Senodus 49]

The only problem with pmg is that it's able to pretty consistently get min ttk's even at 30+ meters. Meanwhile for example the oca starts to miss shots already at 15+ meters. (0-15m oca and pmg are equally powerful imo) They only need to buff oca base accuracy so it ca be more reliable at past 15m, nerf pmg range to 30m, make the damage dropoff past 30m sharp and make the minimum damage after the drop off lower so it need a lot of shots to kill outside if its intended range

[DeadPixels 253]

3 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

I guess let's just nerf everything.

If you try to make a weapon more balanced so it's equal to other similar weapons how can you call that a nerf? Having more balanced weapons is not only good for players, but also for the company. Many times new players asked the question what weapons should they buy, the answer was always the same. How can a company get any profit If let's say 80% players only buy and use those 5 meta weapons?

[ArtDeco 55]

Nerf the PMG sound too, that punchy sound makes everyone feel like they're unstoppable and increases their agility by 200 percent.

[CookiePuss 5378]

7 minutes ago, DeadPixels said:

If you try to make a weapon more balanced so it's equal to other similar weapons how can you call that a nerf

Definition wise?

Buffs make weapons stronger or better, nerfs make weapons weaker or worse.

Used together, you can create balance.

 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2020 by CookiePuss

[FakeBungo 248]

the PMG is OP ok better nerf the OCA

[neophobia 216]

i'm not

 

are you?

On 8/8/2020 at 10:34 AM, Queen of Love said:

Is just easy to use, nothing more.

^this

Edited August 10, 2020 by neophobia

[Gro 104]

Nerf OSCP already!

Too stronk!

[a Pair of Socks 126]

On 8/6/2020 at 1:27 PM, foscor77 said:

When the fq are you going to nerf PMG?  THAT SHIT IS A HACK IN ITSELF!!!!!!

Its a smg but SOMEHOW has range of an assault rifle, it SOMEHOW kills faster and more accurately in cqc than a nfas and nfas ogre. ITS FKING SUPREME!!!

Im quitting apb until i see an update about nerfing PMG. fk of.

 

edit -  The amount of dislikes and votes proved it that players are actually blind. Dont know what i was even expecting from apb players...smh.

[MonkaS 215]

On 8/8/2020 at 12:29 AM, NotZombieBiscuit said:

That 2011 PMG was so useless it was better to just use a snubnose.

wtf r u smoking that was pre damage drop off you could snipe at 90 meters with it.

[NotZombieBiscuit 3146]

1 minute ago, MonkaS said:

wtf r u smoking that was pre damage drop off you could snipe at 90 meters with it.

End of 2011/2012. After G1 nerfed it really early on. Went from OP to useless and stayed that way for years before it was finally buffed back to usable. Was also around the same time they changed the audio from the original to the stapler gun.

[MonkaS 215]

3 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

End of 2011/2012. After G1 nerfed it really early on. Went from OP to useless and stayed that way for years before it was finally buffed back to usable. Was also around the same time they changed the audio from the original to the stapler gun.

better check the blog for that one pretty sure it was 2012

Edited August 11, 2020 by MonkaS

[DeadPixels 253]

On 8/8/2020 at 5:57 PM, CookiePuss said:

Definition wise?

Buffs make weapons stronger or better, nerfs make weapons weaker or worse.

Used together, you can create balance.

 

 

 

That's the problem in APB, there is no BALANCE!!!

[neophobia 216]

2 hours ago, DeadPixels said:

That's the problem in APB, there is no BALANCE!!!

ok

what's imbalanced in your opinion? concrete examples, not "the whole game" - i know it's hard to be constructive when you're used to just making blanket statements

 

i do feel like it's in a good spot right now, besides shotguns.

Edited August 11, 2020 by neophobia

[VanilleKeks 737]

Stepping outside its range sure is a valid tactic, but it it sounds better on paper than it is. Many spots are within the range of the PMG and a lot of areas are 40 meter or below inbetween walls/cover etc. Not to mention that cargaming is still possible simply because many spots reward sitting in a car. Allthough this isn't a PMG issue, it's still indirectly relevant.

 

More often than not, getting outside of PMG range is impossible due to map layout and even if possible will put you at a downside, because you now have to play a specific way, while the PMG user is rewarded for simply existing. There is a reason that swapping to PMG is the best way to counter a PMG.