Terrorism propaganda in APB

[Deftonez 125]

first world problems

[Guest]

On 4/4/2020 at 12:16 PM, Wynnone said:

Hi APB players and admins,

 

I'd like to attract your attention to the problem of terrorism and fascism propaganda in APB. A few weeks ago I played against a char called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii who's got a swastika symbol on his/her avatar. I reported that person for an offensive symbol but a few days ago I played against him/her again and the symbol was still there. Seems like the administrators did not pay attention.

 

Yesterday I played against a char called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii who's got the ISIL/ISIS flag on his/her avatar. As you can see from the screenshot, he/she is a member of the clan called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii. The name suggests that all the members of this clan are likely terrorism supporters. I urge everyone to stay alerted and do not let those guys spread their words and symbols in APB. And I also urge administrators to take action.

Name and Shame image removed ~@mayii

 

Cheers,
Wynn

Glad to see someone else taking initiative to get these dumbasses out of our game.

I mean not that the main majority of community gives a single fuck, as you can see from the downvotes on any thread that isnt about bowing down to Little Orbit

On 4/4/2020 at 1:32 PM, CookiePuss said:

You see, in life, there are things called rules

sometimes we get a say in those rules, and other times we don't

in this case when we all started playing the game, we agreed to abide by the rules as dictated to us

so basically realize what you've agreed to, and if you don't like it, feel free to uninstall

 

Also the fact that not all of us are degenerate 4chan users that use APB to spread hate but hey, what do I know? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Wynnone 24]

Thx everybody for your opinions. I'm actually glad my original post have so far received only 11 dislikes which indicates there are probably not so many extremist supporters in our game. Still it's a pity some of you seem to not recognize this is a problem. Putting legal questions aside, when you are an adult and have strong knowledge of what's good and bad you can regard this stuff as a roleplay. But you all know there are lots of teens in the game, even though they are formally not allowed, and they can easily take in evil ideas.

[Mitne 724]

On 4/4/2020 at 7:16 PM, Wynnone said:

Hi APB players and admins,

 

I'd like to attract your attention to the problem of terrorism and fascism propaganda in APB. A few weeks ago I played against a char called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii who's got a swastika symbol on his/her avatar. I reported that person for an offensive symbol but a few days ago I played against him/her again and the symbol was still there. Seems like the administrators did not pay attention.

 

Yesterday I played against a char called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii who's got the ISIL/ISIS flag on his/her avatar. As you can see from the screenshot, he/she is a member of the clan called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii. The name suggests that all the members of this clan are likely terrorism supporters. I urge everyone to stay alerted and do not let those guys spread their words and symbols in APB. And I also urge administrators to take action.

Name and Shame image removed ~@mayii

 

Cheers,
Wynn

Not like you could kill them first-hand. Imagine: you can kill that nazi or ISIS terrorist! Big virtual karma! Just like fighting nazies and terrorists online...

Edited April 6, 2020 by Mitne

[vsb 6171]

6 minutes ago, Wynnone said:

and they can easily take in evil ideas.

if teens aren't gunning down people in the streets after playing apb then i don't think they're going to join isis because of a few player characters with offensive symbols

[NotZombieBiscuit 3146]

2 hours ago, Wynnone said:

Thx everybody for your opinions. I'm actually glad my original post have so far received only 11 dislikes which indicates there are probably not so many extremist supporters in our game. Still it's a pity some of you seem to not recognize this is a problem. Putting legal questions aside, when you are an adult and have strong knowledge of what's good and bad you can regard this stuff as a roleplay. But you all know there are lots of teens in the game, even though they are formally not allowed, and they can easily take in evil ideas.

Yes, because someone disliking the post must mean they support what your post is about.

 

Nice conclusion there.

[AsgerLund 1271]

2 hours ago, Solamente said:

if teens aren't gunning down people in the streets after playing apb then i don't think they're going to join isis because of a few player characters with offensive symbols

Killing other people is a healthy passtime. But words, symbols, and genitals will corrupt your mind and turn you into a perverted, mysogynist terrorist supporter.

[CookiePuss 5378]

32 minutes ago, AsgerLund said:

turn you into a perverted, mysogynist terrorist supporter.

bold of you to assume I wasn't one already

[AsgerLund 1271]

51 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

bold of you to assume I wasn't one already

You should kill more people and look less at vagene.

[CookiePuss 5378]

4 hours ago, AsgerLund said:

You should kill more people and look less at vagene.

You're not my mom.

lol jk... unless?

 

[Queen of Love 452]

The price of freedom is know that not everybody gained it.

 

Only apb gift to players the ability to customize at 100% their avatar directly with ingame tools .

If people use this feature for add svaztic on a Tshirt just for keep attention, maybe is better dont give them this attention.

I remember an outfit of a very cool designer in JokerNA,  a WWII Deutch officer ,neither nationalsocialist themed, just an officer with iron cross,  outfit was removed.
Was really sad see that a technical masterpiece, well defined, was removed for dont give to trolls an excuse for fill with svaztica every polygon of their props.

was necessary remove that uniform, really necessary ,but was also sad have to do this cause people enjoy show bad taste for trolling around district.
neither  GTA tried to do a  customitation system like APB, cause the risk of abuse was too high.
I donT believe that little trolls really support that symbols, i believe is just a youth's provocation. In this case they have to grew up a bit, and this is possible only if they communicate with people with more experience.
In this way ,expecially for a f2p, banning is useless. Much better keep them (with removing their items)  until they realize how to be something more interesting. 

 

TLDR: draw a svaztic is stupid and useless.
 

[Fenton 210]

I screenshot and report via the customer service portal.

 

I have a list (A very long list) of prior offenders, complete with screenshots.

 

I do not like Nazis, neo-nazis, or kids trying to be deliberately offensive with their SS bolts and so on. It might be "legal" where you are, but there are only a few rules in this game and I expect everyone to follow them.

[MrM0dZ 55]

On 4/6/2020 at 7:53 AM, Wynnone said:

Thx everybody for your opinions. I'm actually glad my original post have so far received only 11 dislikes which indicates there are probably not so many extremist supporters in our game. Still it's a pity some of you seem to not recognize this is a problem. Putting legal questions aside, when you are an adult and have strong knowledge of what's good and bad you can regard this stuff as a roleplay. But you all know there are lots of teens in the game, even though they are formally not allowed, and they can easily take in evil ideas.

LMAO, this is a game bro, if you are too sensible to this kind of shit just leave, so anyone could dress as terrorists if they don't use the ISIS flag?

 

people like you are a joke who can't see the difference between reality and games, this is a roleplaying game, let people be what they want.

(of course let's not just be an patootie to everyone you see ingame)
 

Now that i know there's people like you ingame this gave me the idea to play random arabian musics dressed as a "terrorist" just to see people like you rage.

the songs won't even terrorist related

 

if you're worried about the "problem" go enlist to the army and go fight the war

[CookiePuss 5378]

Isn't the very idea that anyone dressed in middle eastern style clothing is automatically role playing as a terrorist in itself racist?

Imma toss this one to @NotZombieBiscuit... they're much wiser in the ways of the world.

 

Anyways I'm gonna go play some APB.

I need need to get in a few hours of murdering people before I go to bed.

 

[(Xbox)MortisedGuide 46]

On 4/6/2020 at 7:01 AM, Solamente said:

if teens aren't gunning down people in the streets after playing apb then i don't think they're going to join isis because of a few player characters with offensive symbols

Speaking from a freshman view. I played many mature m rated games during kindergarten age, to this year. I have not turned or felt like doing one of these acts. We always visualize it in our head but we're not gonna do it since its just the fucked up part of our minds. 

 

(I remember seeing some dude on console with a nazi shirt, and someone having a clan name **HARD R n word here* GO TO HELL

 

I havent seen much of shit that actually offends me on console. Maybe I do see it and probably not pay much attention.

[NotZombieBiscuit 3146]

52 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Isn't the very idea that anyone dressed in middle eastern style clothing is automatically role playing as a terrorist in itself racist?

Imma toss this one to @NotZombieBiscuit... they're much wiser in the ways of the world.

 

Anyways I'm gonna go play some APB.

I need need to get in a few hours of murdering people before I go to bed.

 

Yeah, assuming that someone is racist ,is racist in itself.

 

Its current year. Everything is racist.

[Wynnone 24]

Thx again everyone for your opinions. I'd especially note the posts of @Fenton and @MrM0dZ cuz they express the two polar views: "lets have strict rules and obey them" and "everything is allowed". I believe the way to go is  somewhere in-between but I dont have a recipe. Role-playing is nice, even though it's not a significant component of APB imho, but having real terrorism advocates in game is not good for sure.

 

14 hours ago, MrM0dZ said:

Now that i know there's people like you ingame this gave me the idea to play random arabian musics dressed as a "terrorist" just to see people like you rage.

the songs won't even terrorist related

If you dress as a terrorist you'll only do a favor to antiterrorism cuz you'll make it into a joke. But if you also use arab music as your jingle... well, that's not a great idea really cuz, you know, not every arab is a terrorist. Btw do you think it's a good idea calling a person you dont know a "bro"? Not only boys play apb bro XD

[PoshDoll 93]

I see that our community is still pretty edgy huh

 

anything to be mentioned somewhere

[Inhotep 28]

On 4/10/2020 at 2:15 AM, PoshDoll said:

I see that our community is still pretty edgy huh

 

anything to be mentioned somewhere

if "edgy" is celebrating world's most notorious darkest modern part in history, then yeah. We are edgy to look at teenagers trying to get attention by pasting swastikas on their charachters.

 

APB customization offers countless and limitless options, you can be astronaut, peter pan, spiderman, weaboo anime cartoon girl, furry animals, characters from other games or movies, like the Ring, etc.

 

If your creativity stops at creating SS officers and arguing with people that you are using "india" swastika because its turned other way around, then i deeply feel sorry for you and all rest who share opinion of this being good.

Doubt any of them are adults. 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Inhotep

[Mitne 724]

On 4/9/2020 at 3:45 PM, Wynnone said:

If you dress as a terrorist you'll only do a favor to antiterrorism cuz you'll make it into a joke. But if you also use arab music as your jingle... well, that's not a great idea really cuz, you know, not every arab is a terrorist.

Excuse me... but did you called someone dressed in arabic clothing, TERRORIST?

Now look how I can twist your silly stand point too and guilt trap you.

They dress in what you would see as arabic terrorist clothing and play arabic theme because they want to be associated with arabic terrorist image.

They don't do this in malice because what... they will go on jihad in APB game? Nah. Most people who gone with such characters gone with controversal satire. They despise what is represented by this characters and prefer to distance themselves from game in that way. Of course there will be rotten apples always who are in love with ideology of such people but that's always bound to happen. You can't cure idiot.

On 4/9/2020 at 3:45 PM, Wynnone said:

well, that's not a great idea really cuz, you know, not every arab is a terrorist.

Nobody said that every arab is terrorist.

That counter-argument was written in your own head against supposed mental attack from us.

Such arab can be terrorist as much as you or me when properly tilted. Imagine if we would be thrown into poverty, feed religious propaganda daily and seeing our lives reach basically nothing but struggles and pain.

That's how radicalism is born. That's how communism, facism was born for example. Terrorism is one of arms of radicalism.

[Wynnone 24]

4 hours ago, Mitne said:

Excuse me... but did you called someone dressed in arabic clothing, TERRORIST?

Now look how I can twist your silly stand point too and guilt trap you.

It seems like I didn't express my point clearly. I think that dressing as a terrorist (wearing a black suite, mask etc.) is ok because this way you are clearly role-playing. But if you also use arabic music as your jingle you implicitly place an equal sign between terrorism and arabic culture, which is not good. The guys I complained to the support were not wearing terrorist clothes they just had terrorist and nazi symbols as their avatars and on their cars. I think it makes a difference.

4 hours ago, Mitne said:

That's how radicalism is born. That's how communism, facism was born for example. Terrorism is one of arms of radicalism.

Equating or comparing communism, terrorism and fascism is incorrect. I wont provide arguments, just check any dictionary.

 

I've finally received a reply from the support team regarding my ticket. According to the forum rules I cant provide details of their reply but I am satisfied with it and suggest everybody concerned with this problem make screenshots and issue support tickets.

[Rebelliousness 85]

The hypocrisy of complaining about terrorism propaganda in a terroristic game... just reflect on the level of melting snowflake SJW cringe.

  

[ShaiShai 130]

On 4/4/2020 at 1:16 PM, Wynnone said:

Hi APB players and admins,

 

I'd like to attract your attention to the problem of terrorism and fascism propaganda in APB. A few weeks ago I played against a char called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii who's got a swastika symbol on his/her avatar. I reported that person for an offensive symbol but a few days ago I played against him/her again and the symbol was still there. Seems like the administrators did not pay attention.

 

Yesterday I played against a char called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii who's got the ISIL/ISIS flag on his/her avatar. As you can see from the screenshot, he/she is a member of the clan called Name and Shame removed ~@mayii. The name suggests that all the members of this clan are likely terrorism supporters. I urge everyone to stay alerted and do not let those guys spread their words and symbols in APB. And I also urge administrators to take action.

Name and Shame image removed ~@mayii

 

Cheers,
Wynn

sadly nothing will happen, I've reported a few players my self and have yet seen anything happen, that was 2 months ago, and so called players still play

we have no gm's

[Gro 104]

1 hour ago, Wynnone said:

quating or comparing communism, terrorism and fascism is incorrect. I wont provide arguments, just check any dictionary.

Let me provide some:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union

6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

 

In my humble opinion communists are hostis humani generis.

Edited April 20, 2020 by Gro

[Sayori 311]

1 hour ago, Rebelliousness said:

The hypocrisy of complaining about terrorism propaganda in a terroristic game... just reflect on the level of melting snowflake SJW cringe.

  

 

The Oxford Dictionary calls terrorism "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

As far as I know, civilians are not specifically targeted in APB, it's two military-style factions opposed against each other. And even if there was - it's fictional. That's not a justification to promote real terrorist organizations.

 

  

12 minutes ago, Gro said:

Let me provide some:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union

6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

 

In my humble opinion communists are hostis humani generis.

Lets not forget Che Guevara. So many clowns wearing shirts with his face. 

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Sayori