Salvick

as an old player i think you’re an idiot who writes barely legible posts and isn’t worth trying to communicate with That's correct except for the "idiot" thingy, is just a language barrier but we couldn't tell if he is actually someone interesting to talk with due to this. This sentence is pretty clear indeed, and I partially agree. Yet it seems he is catering to a handful of players who happen to like ...[insert a few names you want here] As always happened on APB. Wish the new management would be a bit more autonomous on their decisions instead of apologizing so much so often with us. When was that APB player base became the ones who tells the game producers how to designs their game?

Sounds like the definitive solution to dethreating and unbalanced matchmaking, although I hope we still have the option to browse the full servers list and join any instance we want in order to arrange our meetings with other players, friends and clans.

That thumbnail is just from an old blogspot, I think the link to the blogspot they shared in the Fb page just gathered a pic from what might be the most relevant post from the whole blog? I'm just guessing...

Honestly I think there's some inoffensive griefing that we can do as part of the game, like when I see a stunned crim and I drive my car over him to avoid the enforcer arresting him, I did that a few times I had a chance since I see it as part of my "criminal" spirit and part of the game, but I wouldn't put any effort on it since is not intentionally griefing, Then you have some situations where you see players doing their mission and you are just passing by as the "random factor" that could twist their match results completely, same as it happened to me plenty of times so I consider it part of the game, probably what customer support tried to point out I guess. Honestly I really enjoy when a big dump truck or those bullies SUV/Soccer mom van drivers randomly wastes everything around even if it wastes my mission, because I feel a city like San Paro would be really chaotic and plenty of random dangerous situations to sort out. Then, when they kick a player from the mission just to have him on Discord "ghosting" the mission or simply blocking task targets, that's what I'd actually call "griefing" and would expect the game management to strongly enforce the rules against such situations. But also I really enjoy these random car fights we all have every day till I'm on a mission so I just kindly warn the griefer and if he keeps doing it then I consider the option of recording to report if needed. Note for support staff: ghosting is when you are not part of a mission but you are actively interacting with its players and objectives to help a team or block their opposition from accomplishing their objectives.

Here sending positive vibes to everyone at LO, keep it up thanks!

There's another vpn for gaming called like 'zapper'-something, can't recall but google it and give it a try if you really need it. It allowed me to play APB when I was in a place with a proxy that was blocking me from login in the game and this vpn bypassed it so I can say it works, not sure now with LO since didn't need it again luckily. Actually I liked your comment though. Well said, personally I ask myself if its delusional to think the game wasn't about to shut down with G1 not giving a single f to even say good bye.

I noticed stable latency values never seen by me since 2012/2013 in my beginnings playing, the improvement is noticeable, although latency in Financial district when it went full was higher, but other than that everything seems to work great. Good job!

You should try contacting support, for what I've seen in the past wouldn't be a strange issue for some of them: Sauce

I've been bothering a few forum mods occasionally and they replied nicely but would be unfair to compare with the former forum volunteers because I never had to send a message to them that I could remember. But idk why when we say something good about the new staff sounds like implying the old staff was bad...this forums these days makes me feel we have to clarify everything...

Really? I mean, you are new so we are already getting new players, which contradicts your statement...

I think that speculating about "who" is behind this only feeds the troll doing it, I bet the guy reading this comments must be licking his cheek every time we say anything about this, but at the end the DDoS attacks are harming the community more than anything, so it looks like it is someone who really hates the community or a part of it. That would make sense considering how far our beloved players, particularly some of the top ones, can go with their bullying and authoritarianism towards other players. These players, same as the DDoSers, truly act and talk as if they were the owners of the game with authority over any other player who is not on their level or part of their group, so I think it makes more sense to think the attacks are aimed to such people and not to the company. Although I always had this paranoid of thinking behind APB cheats and other attacks is someone with deep access to the game code, someone close to the developers or someone who was part of them, not even saying it is a programmer, it obviously is someone with a lot of free time and unable to do anything productive with his life. But I'm more leaned to think is just a banned group of players, I think of a group of scammers or account thieves, these are the worst kind, with a criminal mindset and a computer to remain anonymous, wouldn't surprise me the same people involved in shady real money trades (not the ones helping their friends trading purchases for ingame stuff), scams and account stealing and keylogger sniping are the ones with easier access to resources to just click and pay for DDoS attacks. And yes, I keep doing the TLDR thing... *shrugs*

Couldn't say it better, thanks to put in words the thoughts of many of us around here. Also this ^ ...and this ^ Hey, it seems we are getting closer to the point where we all agree, there are hopes...

Indeed these kids causing drama, they are really that delusional to think any of them will stop Lixil from playing the game with these guys they hate so much, while actually they only got her hiding anonymously from everyone while naturally she will keep playing the game privately with whoever she feels comfortable with to enjoy her free time. But I'd let them swallow their silly tiny victory, there's so much for us to enjoy coming up and they just can't enjoy anything at all, no matter how nice it is.

idk guys, we all know how easy is to check these IPs on these forum members who seems they created their account to discuss only about this... and people who keeps saying all the bad things that happened, happens and are going to keep happening, if any of you could say something constructive just once to bring your point of view...but no is not because you can't, is just that you don't want to. And thanks guys that finally someone said it clearly:

What Matt is saying is very smart, every time someone mentions anything related to their activity they gather info and imo they also gain attention which is in some way their final goal, even if someone could say they don't do this for attention and they are doing it just because they are evil, these are still in a deep need of attention too. How could anyone be so poisoned to become so persistent and dedicated to damage others? dang! Edit: Could anyone link me where the announce of a patch on Tuesday is please? I skipped that and I have no clue what's going on on Tuesday :s

Hey, I couldn't read the full discussion yet but wanted to make an input about the topic of retaining new players. What I think that needs to be added on top of everything else is a new way to motivate players to make purchases to increase the conversion ratios from freebies to paying players, because this is not only a benefit for the company ofc, but also it is through that interest in the game that the players gets more attached to it, and once a player makes his first purchase the chances that said player will eventually make another purchase are increased and this way you retain these players while they will also invite other players to join the game and so on. Of course this goes on top of everything so I'm talking assuming we have a polished high quality product/game. Now, I'm not plain saying people should spend money, when I talk about purchases I'm talking about a motivation to add value to the interaction between the consumers and the producer, where the producer provides a service and a series of products and the consumer finds satisfaction on them and feels pleased to access 'premium' features in exchange for his money, so in these regards is that I'm convinced that a new currency or a rework in the JTickets and G1coins to make them available across game and Armas market could be a revolutionary solution. This would be a temptation for those willing to invest money to unlock enhancements or access permanent items, etc. that could basically have Armas products available ingame and make purchases with G1Coins directly from NPCs, while freebies could choose stuff from the Armas market directly by special offers that randomly allows them to access some selected items for a limited time with JTickets, if the offer is about to end it still allow you to complete the remaining JTickets paying with real money, which basically creates the illusion that you'll pay 10 or 15 bucks for a 50 dollars item and works great to finally convert a free player that is in the fence about purchasing premium items while also allows the company to create sales on products that have been already acquired by the gross of the population and are not being sold anymore since a while due to this. idk, maybe sounds too crazy, but for the stuff I occasionally read about the free-to-play games and such, it seems the players around the globe are feeling more comfortable with the microtransactions in online games through the years, and that's how I came with this thing I've seen in other games that are climbing the rank in revenues in their categories. TLDR: Freebies needs to be converted to paying players, that gets them more attached and those eventually bring more new players to enter the cycle.

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I'm not white knighting tbh, I just choose to keep my negative opinions for myself and see where I can make a constructive input. I'm not gonna lie, I was clearly waiting to have my chance to play with Lixil or anyone from the staff to share my personal impression of the game as almost everyone else does, I was just waiting for the rest of the people taking their chance so I can go next. Now let's say that Selali and Lixil are going to run a program to play with the players as part of a QA process that involves testing different circumstances with players from all the different levels, they'll need to test all the possibilities and is impossible to do that starting "from scratch". Honestly it is a joke to think that the developers and staff of the game should take a year or two playing from scratch before they could experiment any features or interact with any players. And many of these saying things like this usually are the first avoiding to play with new players because of their lack of guns, cars and equipment if we are going to be honest here. I do agree that as member of the staff yo will never experience the game as a simple mortal though.

whats ur TLDR ikr T_T Edit: Like it better now?

Those complaining about how some players destroy the experience of APB for them and we just did exactly that with Lixil. Congrats with your witch hunt for the guys who are on it, we've burnt someone innocent targeting her as associated with the evil witches, as I predicted it indeed. Talking about destroying the game...yells for new players while ruining it for the Community Manager.

That's one of the persistent problems between players that G1 never addressed, I'm not sure if it is because of a business policy or just the way they choose to handle it, but I never seen the staff actively moderating such behaviors and even myself had to report for weeks if not a month or so, with chat logs and video evidence, an issue like this that just stopped because these guys gave up. But the feeling was that the Support Customer team was so disconnected of the ingame staff (if there was any), that they just couldn't do anything to moderate these guys, I'm still guessing perhaps they temp-banned some of the reported players, which I couldn't ever know, but the harm done was already unnecessarily excessive given the time the issue lasted before it stopped. Other thing I'd mention about this is that no one should be scared of authority, we as players could argue that excessive moderation is censorship, the game management could state that they don't want to enforce players too much to avoid stressing the community, but in the way the things are going on right now with LO, I think the authority of the ingame moderation staff will be respected. Authoritarianism lacks of authority due to its violent nature, but for tense situations I always remember what once a wise man told me; "If you want someone to take out his coat, (pull him out of a defensive postition on an argue or negotiation) you don't make the storm stronger, because the rain will make him grab his coat with more strength and look for cover trying to avoid the rain, instead if you are kind and gentle, like the warm of the sun, people will take out their coats by their own, making things easier for everyone" ...or something like that.

Oh damn, thought Tiggs wasn't in command anymore! Its G1 all over again! The past is haunting us!! ...just joking, not sure why this forums makes me feel I need to clarify this some times.

The people complaining about the staff actions are not against the staff or the company, they are against other players who made them have a bad time. The thing is, we should try to stay positive, and we should try to help every single person out there to avoid having a bad time, I can say bunch of people tried to give me a bad time ingame in the past in my years playing APB, and I even been ashamed of showing this game to friends and family who witnessed this toxicity I'm talking about, but the toxicity is in both sides of the issue, the toxic ones who are aggressive because they feel rejected or targeted by other players, and the toxic ones who are passive-aggressive putting themselves in a position of authority over other fellow players to just end up totally screwing the experience of the game for those they don't want around.

Guys, any of you tried to contact a GM ingame? This kind of issues are out of hands because of the lack of moderation ingame, I think we are going to get this stuff solved really soon, I hope so, you guys should start to try yelling at /d requesting assistance from a GM, if they are able to help they'll /w you, and I'm quite sure that a kind word from the GM's to warn these players and ask them to behave better would work just awesomely, saving lot of trouble for the three parties, the victim, the harasser and the moderation staff.

There's no need to take everything everyone says on forums every day so serious, is cool to debate and it is productive to bring things that lately helps to improve what we have, but sometimes some players gets so involved with the game that they seems to act as if they were chosen to change the world, and there's always someone who creates drama, probably many of us been there without noticing or without intentions to antagonize and dramatize, but also the usual replies just fuel the drama even more, so that's what happens imo, everyone here will discuss on their own level or from their own perspective or interests. Let's have some patience, I think LO is learning about this game and its players much more than what any of us could know about them and about the things that are coming for this game in the future. Is good to let the forums revolt a bit so they can get the full picture in the meanwhile. I do agree the newcomers and a lot of average/casual players with less than 2 years playing are in an urgent need of care from LO. But also I don't think we should tell people how to do their job, that along with assuming they are getting manipulated is an underestimation of their skills and knowledge. We can bring suggestions and concerns and they will always try their best to do what is actually possible to do and nothing else. Back in the days when you played games in dedicated servers that were usually hosted by gaming communities and such, the admins where also players and friends of the people who played there. They were very respected and we not only respect them but also we were always comfortable with their presence and the fact that there was always someone available to help and moderate. And yes, playing with an admin or the owner of the server was an honor, and everyone wanted to do it and always a few will oppose to it. But nowadays it looks like the players attack anyone for anything, they attack other players, then the streamers, then the GMs, the Customer Support and the CM and finally they'll blame on the company and its CEO till finally when there's nothing left to attack, they'll attack the pillow so madly that they'll have nightmares of APB for ever or I don't know what else, lol. We need to calm down, I agree that the thing of the staff playing with "everyone" wasn't well handled, but I don't feel is such a big deal, LO didn't know what would happen and I suspect they did not expect to get so much attention in these regards, I remember telling Lixil that the GMs are like celebrities or even heroes for some players, that's the thing I think.