BlatMan 717 Posted February 17, 2019 It can't just be coincidence that the legendary shotgun is better than all other shotguns in game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TacticallyRed 49 Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) Ogre and Thumper both inferior to NFAS, with the NFAS still being superior to the thunder as well(least in CQC.) Thunder isn’t even that good, and the shotguns were already in a bad place before the buff and subsequent nerf. Edited February 17, 2019 by TacticallyRed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotTheEnforcer 222 Posted February 17, 2019 What in the rampant autism? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxX 280 Posted February 17, 2019 The only thing good about the Thunder is that people don't usually expect the amount of damage it does at longer-than-normal range for shotguns. It's TTK is very high and completely unforgiving of errors, especially when compared to other shotguns. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skooma_ 0 Posted February 17, 2019 Why would a company market a new product that's just subpar? This is literally the case for almost every 'new' weapon. It gets tricky to do that, because every new weapon becomes meta, and all others become obsolete. They're doing a pretty good job at keeping it somewhat balanced right now; you'll see more people running around with Ursus than with a Thunder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alani 475 Posted February 17, 2019 Most shotguns are shit. The hit reg makes them harder to hit targets. Lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) i’d say the nfas is definitely the best shotgun right now, and by a pretty large margin i also prefer the showstopper to the thunder despite its limited range and it would be pretty stupid for orbit to put in all this work reassuring us that they’re not reloaded/old g1, and then turn around and ruin it by trying the same super obvious business practices Edited February 17, 2019 by BXNNXD typo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TacticallyRed 49 Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, LoveForMatt said: We are back at those kind of business. G1 never changes. Theres no evidence to support that. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koleen23 8 Posted February 17, 2019 Just like the Colby CSG-20 is completely ruined now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoriaDunne 327 Posted February 17, 2019 APB devs been doing the same thing over the years, Nerfs x weapons and sell a new OP one, then repeat. Idk about LO doing that, too soon to tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted February 17, 2019 Err. What. Not even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluttershyI 52 Posted February 17, 2019 Revert CSG changes, revert NFAS change... The rest is fine 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koleen23 8 Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, FluttershyI said: Revert CSG changes, revert NFAS change... The rest is fine Yes! Let the CSG shine again! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluttershyI 52 Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) To be fully honest I can't understand how they tried to rebalance things but actually didn't fix a single issue and created new ones... They didn't learn from G1, it takes time, testing and feedback. Weapon balance is still completely trash. CSG is now clearly worse than JG, it's OCA, N-tec all the way... I mean, how hard could it be. Make nerfed weapons usable again like the tommy gun and fix N-tec, OCA, Nfas etc. Edited February 18, 2019 by FluttershyI 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zolerox 564 Posted February 18, 2019 And they didn't fix the Yukon for so long because it was selling well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluttershyI 52 Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zolerox said: And they didn't fix the Yukon for so long because it was selling well. Another problem... Yukon is also way worse now after this "fix" than it should be. It has very bad equip time and reload speed so right now there's no reason for it to exist. The normal mountie is much better now and can actually be used is MM mode. The burst fire mode of the Yukon is really bad... It's like they don't understand that I as a player have spend 40 euros in JMB's to get such a weapon for it to be nerfed into the ground again. Same with my 3 freaking CSG's. And totally of topic but freaking help me and my friend with our support ticket after trying to get a reaction for 2,5 years!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nite 261 Posted February 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Zolerox said: And they didn't fix the Yukon for so long because it was selling well. Are you saying G1 didn't fix the Yukon because of this or LO didn't fix the yukon because of this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neophobia 216 Posted February 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nite said: Are you saying G1 didn't fix the Yukon because of this or LO didn't fix the yukon because of this? LO fixed it as like almost their first course of action, so... he really shouldn't be saying the latter lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluttershyI 52 Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, neophobia said: LO fixed it as like almost their first course of action, so... he really shouldn't be saying the latter lmao It's very good they did, but it would have been better if they changed the burst fire mode so the weapon would still be decent and/or change equip and reload speeds of it. Edited February 18, 2019 by FluttershyI 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadliest 387 Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) Man that peacekeeper is such an insane gun wipe the whole squad out Edited February 18, 2019 by Deadliest 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269 Posted February 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, FluttershyI said: It's very good they did, but it would have been better if they changed the burst fire mode so the weapon would still be decent and/or change equip and reload speeds of it. You don't want to make it a straight upgrade over the normal Northwest Mounties (no-one may use them but they do exist. I'll remember you Mountie, dw) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluttershyI 52 Posted February 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 said: You don't want to make it a straight upgrade over the normal Northwest Mounties (no-one may use them but they do exist. I'll remember you Mountie, dw) I'm not saying that. Atm it's a straight downgrade wich is the problem... You ever wrote the description of it's mod? Outside Marksmanship: -10% base accuracy +50% equip time (!) When in Marksmanship Mode: Switches to a 4-Round Burst (wich makes it even suck even more) You can even kill somebody with an entire mag like this quickly unless you are basically hugging this player and there's nothing special about that TTK anymore. Combine that with bad reload speed and it has become absolute trash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269 Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, FluttershyI said: I'm not saying that. Atm it's a straight downgrade wich is the problem... You ever wrote the description of it's mod? Outside Marksmanship: -10% base accuracy +50% equip time (!) When in Marksmanship Mode: Switches to a 4-Round Burst (wich makes it even suck even more) You can even kill somebody with an entire mag like this quickly unless you are basically hugging this player and there's nothing special about that TTK anymore. Combine that with bad reload speed and it has become absolute trash I was just mentioning it to keep in mind. Do you have a suggested rework in mind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syzus 23 Posted February 18, 2019 JG is fine, Showstopper is ok, CSG is meh now, but NFAS is a way more powerful than it should be, it gets really annoying on fc, literally the try hardest weapon in the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
