vsb 6171 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) brief summary of my issues with this phase of the armas revamp pricing is all over the place - weapons seem to be very well normalized now, at the cost of everything else. there's a lot of very oddly numbered prices (5034, 2546, 635, etc) bundles seem to have almost uniformly increased in price (i know i know you did warn us) despite no attempt to implement account bound options with less savings upon purchase, bundles seem to have less value overall - in extreme examples bundle prices are equal or exceed the cost of the items purchased separately theres a distinct lack of the more standardized pricing model that was talked up in the last blog post - from bundles to vehicles to kits to clothing, nearly everything seems to have almost completely random prices attached to them cross faction packs are priced differently for each faction equivalent faction-based vehicles and vehicle kits are priced differently the new dropdown menus are nice, but the options to view account-bound/character-bound weapons have been removed i'll probably post some specific issues in here as i take a closer look edit: apologies in advance if any of my math is wrong, please be patient i have terminal stupidity Edited February 14, 2019 by BXNNXD typo 17 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigrix 308 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Also, 2399 g1c for an account bound weapon is roughly 25-30$ depending where you live ..... I really don't see what has been lowered? and lowered by an average of 30%? what .. O.o And it's not by lowering g1c price, as I see it remains the same @ 6.25/5$ for 500/400 g1c ... Edited February 14, 2019 by Tigrix 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acornie 490 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) One question; why That's more than a 2x increase in price, just for some dumb kits - Edit: Would be unfair to leave this how it is and not update to show that LO rather quickly remedied this: *applause* Edited February 19, 2019 by Acornie 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosei 45 Posted February 14, 2019 agree, while some packs i really appreciate the price dropped so much, such as "Dress to kill" however theres still many ridiculous prices all over the place, doesnt make sense. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted February 14, 2019 cyberpunk clothing pack + 4slot growl w/ 'mamba' kit - 3103/2483 cyberpunk uber bundle (includes cyberpunk clothing, 4slot growl, and 'mamba' vehicle kit) - 3183/2546 the uber bundle is 80 G1C/63 G1C more 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nickolai 206 Posted February 14, 2019 The weapon prices are reasonable. Especially in the Secondaries. 15$ for an Account Wide sidearm? That's a steal! But for everything else.....eh the prices are upside down. I waited patiently in the hope that I can get the Collector's Car pack that included the Kurai, Moirai and Gumshoe and I felt the old price was kinda steep.......now its above 40$.... I only have one reply to that: You will not have my money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted February 14, 2019 dress to kill clothing pack (including 30 day weapon lease) + patriot jericho w/ 'phantom' kit + permanent character-bound weapon - 5083/4066 dress to kill enforcer/criminal bundle - 5034/4027 the bundle is 46 g1c/39 g1c less high roller clothing pack (includes 30 day weapon lease) + bishada rapier w/ 'spectre' kit + permanent character-bound weapon - 5036/4028 high roller enforcer/criminal bundle - 2241/1793 the bundle is 2,795 g1c/2,235 g1c less why are these bundles, despite each having roughly equivalent content, such wildly different prices? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nanometic 265 Posted February 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: ~Snip~ Paying for the exclusivity of the silenced CBMP Ofcourse, only way to get it Seriously though, bringing both these packs to around 3500~ G1C would fix that. Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) this one's a doozy, focused on the 'kits' section vegas 'mercury' kit + vegas 'rugido' kit + vegas 'hot rod' kit + vegas wheel kit - 2770/2216 vegas mega pack - 2772/2218 the mega pack is 2 g1c more not exactly a hot deal and why is the 'hot rod' kit priced higher than the 'rugido' and 'mercury' kits? perfoormance kit 1 + performance kit 2 - 3800/3040 performance kit mega pack - 3800/3040 the mega pack is 0 g1c less why even bother having 3 separate listings at this price point? none of the preview pictures show the bishada rapier, with or without kits carrying kit 1 + carrying kit 2 + pioneer/espacio wheels & audio kit - 3167/2534 pioneer mega pack - 3168/2534 espacio mega pack - 3082/2466 the pioneer mega pack is 1 g1c/0 g1c more the espacio mega pack is 85 g1c/68 g1c less discounts for one mega pack but not the other due to mega pack price differences, both carrying kits are also priced differently the carrying kit listing pictures (located on the 'kits' section of armas) only show the pioneer compact kit 1 + compact kit 2 + mikro/vaquero wheels & audio kit - 2454/1964 mikro compact kit pack - 1742/1394 vaquero compact kit pack - 2455/1964 the mikro compact kit is 712 g1c/570 g1c less the vaquero compact kit is 1 g1c/0 g1c more again, discounts for one pack and not the other due to compact kit pack price difference i'm not listing each one of these lightbars out - 891/771 light em up mega pack - 3088/2470 the light em up mega pack is 2,197 g1c/1,699 g1c more price difference is assuming the mega pack is comprised only of the individually listed lightbars in the 'kit' section, as the description isnt exactly specific the description still lists the old prices and the old discount, cmon guys some of the individual lightbars (ARS lightstrip, boomer swingback bars, POLICE lightbar) do not have a premium discount applied to them Edited February 14, 2019 by BXNNXD typo 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acornie 490 Posted February 14, 2019 Why does LO hate the idea of saving money on bundles? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5378 Posted February 14, 2019 Damn son ... VSB putting in work!! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IROCkiller 210 Posted February 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: and why is the 'hot rod' kit priced higher than the 'rugido' and 'mercury' kits? It's probably just because of the blower sticking out of the hood. gotta have that go fast supercharger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farbon Ciber 65 Posted February 14, 2019 Been wanting the bundle with the Vegas 4x4... How hard can this be? are we perhaps over thinking it? make a spreadsheet, throw a formula in and drop everything by 30% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabeMasi 1 Posted February 14, 2019 I'm very glad someone addressed this, I was looking at the prices confused as hell- more so like what's going on here? Does this even make sense to anyone? Is there a method to this madness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted February 14, 2019 cross faction packs enforcer/criminal armored bonus pack - 1751/1401 enforcer/criminal impact bonus pack - 1836/1469 price difference of 85 g1c/68 g1c enforcer/criminal tactical gear bonus pack - 1395/1116 enforcer/criminal paramilitary bonus pack - 1751/1401 price difference of 356 g1c/285 g1c enforcer/criminal rapid reaction gear - 597/478 enforcer/criminal s1 racing gear - 477/382 price difference of 120 g1c/96 g1c i really dont get why these packs are different prices, especially because the full packs are all identical in price to their counterparts except this one armored urban warfare pack - 3343/2674 impact urban warfare pack - 2895/2316 price difference of 448 g1c/358 g1c 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted February 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Damn son ... VSB putting in work!! More work than many have his kin have done in their entire lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kewlin 692 Posted February 14, 2019 What the actual fuck is this update? Please actually fix and standardize ARMAS. IDK, like, spend at least an afternoon making the prices work right instead of setting up an AI to randomly assign prices. P.S. Please bring back the Account Lifetime and Character Lifetime weapon pages (as in seeing all guns account or character lifetime.) While you're at it, get rid of the new menu system with the dropdown menu that sucks and go to the old sidebar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zolerox 564 Posted February 14, 2019 Mistakes This is the "male" desert scarf https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=65&subcatID=208&productId=2665 The Uber bundle Still doesn't have it's wheel kit de-bundled (more of a request) https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=64&subcatID=290&productId=2060 More of a artistic choice but , all the skins use "joker cr5" but the chips weapon skin uses the atac (and is out of place) https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/index.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=103&subcatID=314 In this picture they used the joker cr5 https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=103&subcatID=314&productId=3835 Not a fan of this icon https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=103&subcatID=204&productId=3803 Maybe something more like this would look better A gun i've never bought before (is unpurchaseable) https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=63&subcatID=196&productId=2684 <-- this logo means i can't buy it (because it's allready purchased character bound) I can only buy account bound even the 30 days option is gone. Several other guns on my account also have this logo and are "only" account bound purchasable It could be because (before the armas revamp) i used the free trial. Which btw should be fixed as the free trial button is completly missing. Some image issues Gun touches the mod icons https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=63&subcatID=198&productId=3154 2 versions of the ALIG have 2 different icons https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=63&subcatID=197&productId=1319 https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=63&subcatID=197&productId=2739 supposedly the same model 2 different screenshots a tad stretched no idea how they can fix that. Could be on purpose but the Image cuts off the mask underneath. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevkof 806 Posted February 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, Zolerox said: A gun i've never bought before (is unpurchaseable) https://www.gamersfirst.com/marketplace/ingame/product_details.php?storetype=g1c&gameID=20&catID=63&subcatID=196&productId=2684 <-- this logo means i can't buy it (because it's allready purchased character bound) I can only buy account bound even the 30 days option is gone. This weapon was previously awarded as a character bound permanent weapon, it was given as a code when you had to do 500 rifleman kills in X days. That's most likely why you can't get it on that character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Letter 25 Posted February 14, 2019 At least it work / load pages much faster now. As for prices - I remember how I wasn't happy with 5-10$ guns in Planetside 2 because apprently you need more than 5 and that makes them cost on par with AAA games... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zolerox 564 Posted February 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kevkof said: This weapon was previously awarded as a character bound permanent weapon, it was given as a code when you had to do 500 rifleman kills in X days. That's most likely why you can't get it on that character. But i failed that event.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted February 14, 2019 no particular order, some price comparisons using purchase history - premium assumed key to the city pack new - 7,999 G1C old - 6,399 G1C key to the world pack new - 12,799 G1C old - 12,799 G1C juggernaut strike pack new - 5,599 G1C old - 3,999 G1C norseman 'hel' (account bound) new - 1,599 G1C old - 3,199 G1C colby .45 (account bound) new - 1,199 G1C old - 2,000 G1C performance kit mega pack new - 3,040 G1C old - 1,111 G1C tactical gear bonus pack new - 1,116 G1C old - 959 G1C han coywolf bundle new - 1,953 G1C old - 2,399 G1C skinny glossy trousers new - 79 G1C old - 399 G1C high tech weapon skin new - 799 G1C old - 319 G1C all stars pack (account bound) new - 475 G1C old - 1,599 G1C 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattScott 15242 Posted February 14, 2019 Hi all, Apologies for the issues in the upgrade. We are looking at things now. BTW - I want to acknowledge all the work people put into this thread pulling comparisons. We did actually build a spreadsheet and dump all the new pricing and then apply a discount for bundles. However, there appears to be a situation with bundles in bundles that caused an issue. Also many items were manually edited with extra discounts that got missed. Thanks, Matt 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, MattScott said: Hi all, Apologies for the issues in the upgrade. Bundles are a bit screwed up. Many of them are bundles in bundles. We are looking at things now. Thanks, Matt well its good to know things are changing hopefully i wont have to do all these posts over again lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farbon Ciber 65 Posted February 14, 2019 thank you Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
