Stongs / shidiOt 29 Posted December 9, 2018 Why are bans for hacking only 3 days and not permanent? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SyllyBear 20 Posted December 9, 2018 Oh god. Maybe they think they are like childrens who will get scared to lose their accounts if they keep cheating, and they will change their mind. Thats what happens when you have no idea how it works... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeTurboAgresor 268 Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) I used to use similar strategy on my server to let the cheaters know that I can see them. Its fairly effective if u dont want to lose the players I can imagine that it was some high level guy with armas weapons. I wouldnt ban him permamently too cuz he would either: 1.never return again 2. reroll and ruin the game for everyone else Edited December 9, 2018 by AxeTurboAgresor 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deftonez 123 Posted December 9, 2018 wait... so are they making it 3 days because they want people to take that as a chance to stop what their doing? regardless of why they received a 3 day ban? yeah, this is gonna be weird Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattScott 15240 Posted December 9, 2018 Hi there, I'm not sure where you heard we were doing 3 day bans on hackers. We have different ways of handling different problems. For toxicity, harassment, and some other issues, we have escalating bans (24 hours, 72 hours, until permanent). Our goal is to help players learn what is acceptable and what is not. For hacking and cheating, there is no escalation. We simply permanently ban. It's unfortunate, as I hate losing players that way, but it takes too long to catch them. Thanks, Matt 11 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mstitel 1 Posted December 9, 2018 51 minutes ago, MattScott said: Hi there, I'm not sure where you heard we were doing 3 day bans on hackers. We have different ways of handling different problems. For toxicity, harassment, and some other issues, we have escalating bans (24 hours, 72 hours, until permanent). Our goal is to help players learn what is acceptable and what is not. For hacking and cheating, there is no escalation. We simply permanently ban. It's unfortunate, as I hate losing players that way, but it takes too long to catch them. Thanks, Matt hello matt, with me is the problem that my account is still blocked whatever was the reason idk, and it has already passed 3 weeks ago, and I still have no answer from littleorbit support team? I would like to play the game so much, but without my account I will not play it anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sayori 311 Posted December 9, 2018 8 hours ago, AxeTurboAgresor said: I used to use similar strategy on my server to let the cheaters know that I can see them. Its fairly effective if u dont want to lose the players I can imagine that it was some high level guy with armas weapons. I wouldnt ban him permamently too cuz he would either: 1.never return again 2. reroll and ruin the game for everyone else This is such a bs. It might be working in other games but most certainly it DOES NOT work in APB. As if people don't get banned like multiple times, reroll and buy everything from armas again. So 1. he will return 2. he was already ruining the game for everyone Just make it as painful as you can for his wallet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katchwi 1 Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, MattScott said: Hi there, I'm not sure where you heard we were doing 3 day bans on hackers. We have different ways of handling different problems. For toxicity, harassment, and some other issues, we have escalating bans (24 hours, 72 hours, until permanent). Our goal is to help players learn what is acceptable and what is not. For hacking and cheating, there is no escalation. We simply permanently ban. It's unfortunate, as I hate losing players that way, but it takes too long to catch them. Thanks, Matt You dont lose them, trust me. They will reroll or use their multiple accounts. Like me and forums Edited December 9, 2018 by Katchwi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6153 Posted December 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Katchwi said: You dont lose them, trust me. They will reroll or use their multiple accounts. Like me and forums are you admitting to forum cheating? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nite 261 Posted December 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Katchwi said: You dont lose them, trust me. They will reroll or use their multiple accounts. Like me and forums 1 minute ago, BXNNXD said: are you admitting to forum cheating? Clearly its time for Matt to pull out the IP Hammer on him..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katchwi 1 Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: are you admitting to forum cheating? How it would be cheating on a forum? Using multiple accounts? 6 minutes ago, Nite said: Clearly its time for Matt to pull out the IP Hammer on him..... We learnt spoof hw and ip bans under tiggs regime, would barely work. Edited December 9, 2018 by Katchwi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mstitel 1 Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Katchwi said: You dont lose them, trust me. They will reroll or use their multiple accounts. Like me and forums dude they giving me a hwid ban so i lost all my accounts because a hacker was on my team, and i got banned lol its so sad. And now i have nothing. i asked matt to solve the problem and he say write to support and ask questions ....... Edited December 9, 2018 by mstitel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katchwi 1 Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mstitel said: dude they giving me a hwid ban so i lost all my accounts because a hacker was on my team, and i got banned cuz someone send a video to support lol im still sad. And now i have nothing. i asked matt to solve the problem and he say write to support and ask questions ....... We are talkign about forum bans not game bans. Right now there are plenty of triggerbotters that been banned before l* took ride of apb, and they still going on it. Just ask matt your second chance. Edited December 9, 2018 by Katchwi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stongs / shidiOt 29 Posted December 9, 2018 4 hours ago, MattScott said: Hi there, I'm not sure where you heard we were doing 3 day bans on hackers. We have different ways of handling different problems. For toxicity, harassment, and some other issues, we have escalating bans (24 hours, 72 hours, until permanent). Our goal is to help players learn what is acceptable and what is not. For hacking and cheating, there is no escalation. We simply permanently ban. It's unfortunate, as I hate losing players that way, but it takes too long to catch them. Thanks, Matt Umm cause I know people who are hacking and only received a 3 day ban? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted December 10, 2018 Banned for being sexy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kariiim 16 Posted December 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Nite said: Clearly its time for Matt to pull out the IP Hammer on him..... he dont IP any more 13 hours ago, Nite said: Clearly its time for Matt to pull out the IP Hammer on him..... he dont IP any more 13 hours ago, Nite said: Clearly its time for Matt to pull out the IP Hammer on him..... he told me that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitne 720 Posted December 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Katchwi said: We learnt spoof hw and ip bans under tiggs regime, would barely work. Don't call idiocracy, regime. 13 hours ago, mstitel said: dude they giving me a hwid ban so i lost all my accounts because a hacker was on my team, and i got banned lol its so sad. And now i have nothing. i asked matt to solve the problem and he say write to support and ask questions ....... Yeah... Here we go. Ban paranoia. Real victims gonna be mixed now with legit cheaters who are always "non guilty". If you been banned before LO takeover, address it. If you weren't unbanned that's maybe because your ban was legit and there's proofs behind it? 12 hours ago, Stongs / shidiOt said: Umm cause I know people who are hacking and only received a 3 day ban? They ban maybe wasn't hacking related? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeTurboAgresor 268 Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) @Sayori U cant say its bs if it worked. U dont even know what strategy I used to use instead of IP or perma bans or bans of general yet u call it bs. It might be fun also. SO back off a lil bit. But indeed it was the different game. I dont say the same approach needs to be applied here. There are whole different circumstances. Edited December 10, 2018 by AxeTurboAgresor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincci 24 Posted December 10, 2018 HWID problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5365 Posted December 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Vincci said: HWID problem solved. HWID spoofer. Now sold with most decent cheating tools. Problem... Unsolved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattScott 15240 Posted December 13, 2018 Hi all, I'm going to amend my earlier statement about 3 day bans. Under certain circumstances, we do allow BE to do automated temp bans for cheaters. This immediately alerts my staff, and then they check the documentation on the ban to make sure it was valid, and then they make it a permanent ban. I referenced this months ago as a precaution we put in place to prevent what happened with PunkBuster and FairFight automatically permabanning players. So it is 100% possible that you could have heard about a 3 day ban for cheating, but more than likely that is escalated to permanent before the ban ends. Thanks, Matt 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted December 13, 2018 4 hours ago, MattScott said: Hi all, I'm going to amend my earlier statement about 3 day bans. Under certain circumstances, we do allow BE to do automated temp bans for cheaters. This immediately alerts my staff, and then they check the documentation on the ban to make sure it was valid, and then they make it a permanent ban. I referenced this months ago as a precaution we put in place to prevent what happened with PunkBuster and FairFight automatically permabanning players. So it is 100% possible that you could have heard about a 3 day ban for cheating, but more than likely that is escalated to permanent before the ban ends. Thanks, Matt sounds like a good idea to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSxW 47 Posted December 13, 2018 6 hours ago, MattScott said: Hi all, I'm going to amend my earlier statement about 3 day bans. Under certain circumstances, we do allow BE to do automated temp bans for cheaters. This immediately alerts my staff, and then they check the documentation on the ban to make sure it was valid, and then they make it a permanent ban. I referenced this months ago as a precaution we put in place to prevent what happened with PunkBuster and FairFight automatically permabanning players. So it is 100% possible that you could have heard about a 3 day ban for cheating, but more than likely that is escalated to permanent before the ban ends. Thanks, Matt its nice idea to check if everythinks works as intendent but firstival update BE to newest versions because this version not search for applications below ring1 or 2 as i remember I checked that and its true u got outdated BE - update it as fast as posible or implement the newest version in 3.5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincci 24 Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 12:42 PM, CookiePuss said: HWID spoofer. Now sold with most decent cheating tools. Problem... Unsolved. well, yeah right, but still is a stick on the wheel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordVegeta 35 Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 7:42 AM, CookiePuss said: HWID spoofer. Now sold with most decent cheating tools. Problem... Unsolved. who cares if the problem isn't solved. At least it would make it harder for that much more cheaters to come back. My problem with the current way cheaters are banned is that it is way too easy for them to return. There will always be cheaters but why make it easy for them to return. At least HW ID and IP bans would make it that much more difficult for cheaters come back and ruin players experiences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites