BoomLion 46 Posted December 4, 2018 so i typed in google..best free to play open world games 2018... and on you tube this vid was first >> APB is 2nd on the list.. the vid has had allmost 100k views... so how can we not be over run with players.... theres no game out there at all like APB./.not one.. !! ground breaking customization !! This game has ment to of had >>>100 million + on it !!!! >>>>> https://www.giantbomb.com/apb-reloaded/3030-20985/forums/apb-cost-100-million-dollars-to-make-440234/ so why is the player count so low... what are we doing wrong ?? how can something thats ment to be SOOOOOO BIG !! have such a low player base...man it is crazy dont u guys think !!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoriaDunne 327 Posted December 4, 2018 APB has a really bad marketing compared to other games, and what happened on it's release killed it for good. Real Times World gave ppl a lot of hype, APB was going to be GTA online at that time, but it came out mediocre and just a month later they went bankruptcy. Yeah, APB had/has potential, it's just bad luck that they never knew how to develop it, not to talk about the never-ending milking by G1 since they got the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VickyFox 353 Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, EvoTron said: so i typed in google..best free to play open world games 2018... and on you tube this vid was first >> APB is 2nd on the list.. the vid has had allmost 100k views... so how can we not be over run with players.... theres no game out there at all like APB./.not one.. !! ground breaking customization !! This game has ment to of had >>>100 million + on it !!!! >>>>> https://www.giantbomb.com/apb-reloaded/3030-20985/forums/apb-cost-100-million-dollars-to-make-440234/ so why is the player count so low... what are we doing wrong ?? how can something thats ment to be SOOOOOO BIG !! have such a low player base...man it is crazy dont u guys think !!! You must not be active in APB. First APB PC version is running Unreal Engine 3.0 which is not given support anymore buy Epic, Current gun console version run unreal engine 3.5 optimised. Second, GamerFirst procrastinated and neglected APB to the point of having to go under new management. While they did buy APB and save it from Real Time Worlds, They rather milked APB:Reloaded released new in game content but didn't do more to bring it up to day other than fixing broken stands of code from RTW. GamersFirst customer service is just outright poor over the past years. GamersFirst Credit price was too high and as such it reflected in Armas Marketplace. Because G1 are so "good" at interacting with the playerbase, the community just became toxic as GMs left the game, staff felt intimidated and APB became overly competitive. Also G1 added threat segregated districts which caused people to actively try to dethreat, this is a constant pain for new players. There is more I could say I am not going on to RTW and I want to eat my supper sometime tonight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5379 Posted December 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, EvoTron said: how can something thats ment to be SOOOOOO BIG !! have such a low player base...man it is crazy dont u guys think !!! Many people have played APB over the years. They decided they didnt like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOppositePolarBear 93 Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 11:27 PM, EvoTron said: so why is the player count so low... what are we doing wrong ?? more like what APB is doing wrong: non existent marketing(wich causes people to see this as a budget GTA instead of something completely diferent), bad reputation (this is the game thats "overrun by hackers" at the eyes of the general population) caused by horrible matchmaking and threat system, that also causes horrible player retention (newbie person with shooter experience gets to silver, faces teams of max rank golds 5 times in a row, decides that everyone is cheating, leaves). also, here have fun in that thread, it highlights lots of stuff thats really wrong and annoying in the game, and that makes it dificult to hold even experienced players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6171 Posted December 4, 2018 game no work so players no play 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartisLTU 265 Posted December 4, 2018 I Think this list creator forget to add in tittle : "for low end PC". Tho .. dunno if APB is for low end PC , have mid range PC have to play on low settings if i want to have atleast 70 fps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoomLion 46 Posted December 5, 2018 So do u think they should do a big marketing push..when they lauch 3.5.. All i know is LO is tryign hard u can tell..they know what they took on when they got APB... they must of played an seen how bad an good things are... but when i found out how much money this game has had put in to it i am just blowed away... hardly any players yet APB is in top ten in Best free to play open world games... CRAZYNESS!!!! I say new year new start !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5379 Posted December 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, EvoTron said: So do u think they should do a big marketing push..when they lauch 3.5.. No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EDDYWRECKER 10 Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, EvoTron said: So do u think they should do a big marketing push..when they lauch 3.5.. Depends Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted December 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, EDDYWRECKER said: Depends Depends? *Scoots away* ok back on topic : As people said Real time worlds as well as Gamersfirst really did a number on APB as well as the player base we had over the years. Once APB becomes optimized under the best engine we can upgrade to ( 4. whatever it is) then we can also have changes done to APB like new content and cars gear and whatever which would help revive APB. Of course a lot of things have to happen in between all of that but its hopeful now that Little Orbit is doing what G1 promised but only milked us for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EDDYWRECKER 10 Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Fortune Runner said: Depends? *Scoots away* ok back on topic : As people said Real time worlds as well as Gamersfirst really did a number on APB as well as the player base we had over the years. Once APB becomes optimized under the best engine we can upgrade to ( 4. whatever it is) then we can also have changes done to APB like new content and cars gear and whatever which would help revive APB. Of course a lot of things have to happen in between all of that but its hopeful now that Little Orbit is doing what G1 promised but only milked us for. Ok, I will say a little more lol If 3.5 is released.... If 3.5 presents with a reduction of bugs..... Reduction of bugs reduces hackusations..... If Version 4 is really a thing..... Then we might have a chance So depends.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitne 724 Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I watched his toplist and looked up guy. 11 000 subs, distorted soundtrack from game and uber old gameplay (in our case) and trailers (in most of others) make me think he didn't even do any research into our or any of games presented there. We are compared with games like Cuisine Royale or Defiance 2050... Really? This are top F2P games? Where? Btw. here's list of his "Free to play" videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJEDviqyID9sRxbpSqZ3sUQ/search?query=f2p Will show you how much he actually cares what he shits out on Youtube. Dunno why you guys care what trash Youtube channels think about APB: Reloaded Answer is easy: Nothing. Edited December 5, 2018 by Mitne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VickyFox 353 Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, EvoTron said: So do u think they should do a big marketing push..when they lauch 3.5.. All i know is LO is tryign hard u can tell..they know what they took on when they got APB... they must of played an seen how bad an good things are... but when i found out how much money this game has had put in to it i am just blowed away... hardly any players yet APB is in top ten in Best free to play open world games... CRAZYNESS!!!! I say new year new start !! 10 hours ago, CookiePuss said: No. I said it before a number of times and I'll always will, Customer Acquisition VS Customer Retention Costs are not in APB's favour. APB:Reloaded as a product is not anything exception and in the past was in a worse state. If you got a poor product then people are not going to come back for more, it is easier and cheaper to keep current customers than trying for a marketing push when the game is not in a good place Especially if the new players are going to leave because of perceived: Pay to win, cheaters and hackers, dethreaters, poor graphics, low server population numbers, (previous) poor customer service standard, ETC.... Edited December 5, 2018 by VickyFox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saxtus 497 Posted December 5, 2018 People may try APB, then get overrun by players saying on district chat that they have no reason to stop cheating and their sole purpose is to drive away players from the game. The toxicity is really bad for anybody trying APB. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saxtus 497 Posted December 5, 2018 Got permission from the person that captured a chat from yesterday, to post it here as long I've blurred names: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clandestine 390 Posted December 5, 2018 Go and visit bronze district in Citadel and you will find out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5379 Posted December 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Saxtus said: Got permission from the person that captured a chat from yesterday, to post it here as long I've blurred names: trolled/10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kominis 26 Posted December 5, 2018 lole, so basically, 1st is a dead game and the 2nd is suffering APB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nessie 81 Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) APB would have been a top mmo game... 6 years ago. Now it's late. By the time all the "If that, if this" are completed, the game won't even be supported anymore on most pcs. Even now I am struggling to make the game run well with my pc. Edited December 5, 2018 by Nessie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foolish ninja 59 Posted December 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nessie said: APB would have been a top mmo game... 6 years ago. Now it's late. nah fam. They just need to be up to date with the technology and add some good tutorial and a low rating district. After these changes and some marketing, the game would rise up from dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaQuandra 91 Posted December 6, 2018 You only have one chance to make a first impression. APB is known as a "dead" game with a million issues. New players already have a bias before they even play. Once they get rolled by some vets they will hop on the everyone is cheating bandwagon. Or they will realize they cannot shoot through steps, why is that person all glitchy when they get out of the car? Why am I only getting 70fps when my system is decent? Few are going to accept the issues and enjoy the game for what is it. Their biases will just be confirmed and they will go on looking for another game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
