Zatro 49 Posted January 28, 2020 What does this mean? Most (if not all) silencer mods read this. I've always thought it meant you wouldn't show up in the radar but recently I found out that's not the case. At least not for the ATAC Watchman nor the OCA Whisper Could anybody please tell me what this does? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 379 Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Every gun used to have tracers except weapons with suppressors. At some point G1 just took out all tracers. The suppressors on the DMR are now just decorations since there are no tracers in game. Edited January 28, 2020 by illgot 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted January 28, 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_ammunition basically all guns (except ones with a silencer) used to have visible bullet trajectories, but they were accidentally broken in a patch years ago and have yet to return - silencer mods list this as an advantage because it removes a way for opponents to receive a visual indication of your shooting location/direction personally i think they always looked pretty cartoonish, more like a matrix bullet trail or a laser pointer than an irl tracer round, but we've been informed that apb tracers are returning with the engine upgrade iirc 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevkof 806 Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Solamente said: but we've been informed that apb tracers are returning with the engine upgrade iirc The screenshot that was shared before showing the tracers being back (From an older build, around June 2019): Edited January 28, 2020 by Kevkof Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Kevkof said: The screenshot that was shared before showing the tracers being back (From an older build, around June 2019): [image] definitely a step in the right visual direction but imo the real issue was how long tracers hung around, hard to see that in a picture not like im going to stop playing apb depending on tracers anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted January 28, 2020 They didn't take them out. They straight up broke them and didn't bother to fix it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zatro 49 Posted January 28, 2020 Ohhh so it was that! Sadly I started playing APB soon after tracers broke I can't believe I've thought silencers hid you from the radar for this long thank you all 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrandonBranderson 672 Posted January 28, 2020 If I remember correctly the addition of the weapon skin system is what broke them. I've always liked the look of them. APB isn't really a super realistic looking game so I think they fit well in the environment. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nitronik 348 Posted January 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, BrandonBranderson said: If I remember correctly the addition of the weapon skin system is what broke them. I've always liked the look of them. APB isn't really a super realistic looking game so I think they fit well in the environment. I remember that skins broke blue muzzle flashes for sure. Tracers being busted happened later IIRC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VickyFox 353 Posted January 28, 2020 3 hours ago, IS2APBR said: I've always thought it meant you wouldn't show up in the radar but recently I found out that's not the case. The Raptor 45 'Condor' (Joker Mystery Box 17) is a he legendary assault rifle has a one of a kind mod call "XTD-7s Silencer", At this time it is the only gun in game that will not show up on radar... However this only applies to the first 3 bullets fired. Not the greatest benefit to the user, but the first 3 bullets being masked may just give enough of a delayed reaction from the target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotatoeGirl 220 Posted January 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Solamente said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_ammunition basically all guns (except ones with a silencer) used to have visible bullet trajectories, but they were accidentally broken in a patch years ago and have yet to return - silencer mods list this as an advantage because it removes a way for opponents to receive a visual indication of your shooting location/direction personally i think they always looked pretty cartoonish, more like a matrix bullet trail or a laser pointer than an irl tracer round, but we've been informed that apb tracers are returning with the engine upgrade iirc I actually hope they bring them back with the engine update. The way how the game works really requires to have them. There would be much less cheap deaths just because you couldn't see someone peeking behind a corner 70m away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, HawtGirl said: I actually hope they bring them back with the engine update. The way how the game works really requires to have them. There would be much less cheap deaths just because you couldn't see someone peeking behind a corner 70m away. i don't really understand the need tbh, but i always relied more on the giant red damage indicators than tracers anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotatoeGirl 220 Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Solamente said: i don't really understand the need tbh, but i always relied more on the giant red damage indicators than tracers anyway Traces just have much more advantages: -gives away exact location -lets you see missed shots so you can move accordingly -lets you know if you are getting targeted -you can spot players and their elevation without having direct view on them -easier to identify shots coming from behind 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted January 29, 2020 Tracers are corny and gross. #notracers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lign 361 Posted January 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, Solamente said: i don't really understand the need tbh, but i always relied more on the giant red damage indicators than tracers anyway I always rely on the sound, never cared about red indicators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6170 Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, Lign said: I always rely on the sound, never cared about red indicators. i play with apb muted a lot, and even when its not i feel like apb's directional sound is pretty bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob_Guardian 417 Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Solamente said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_ammunition basically all guns (except ones with a silencer) used to have visible bullet trajectories, but they were accidentally broken in a patch years ago and have yet to return - silencer mods list this as an advantage because it removes a way for opponents to receive a visual indication of your shooting location/direction personally i think they always looked pretty cartoonish, more like a matrix bullet trail or a laser pointer than an irl tracer round, but we've been informed that apb tracers are returning with the engine upgrade iirc they're returning?! YAY! 15 minutes ago, Solamente said: i play with apb muted a lot, and even when its not i feel like apb's directional sound is pretty bad I play with sounds and honestly the sound isn't that bad. I find Rainbow 6's directional sound to be sooooo much worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenfield 135 Posted January 29, 2020 i like it more without tracers. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AsgerLund 1271 Posted January 29, 2020 8 hours ago, CookiePuss said: Tracers are corny and gross. #notracers Tracers are corny and gross. I like them a lot. #yestracers 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotatoeGirl 220 Posted January 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, AsgerLund said: Tracers are corny and gross. I like them a lot. #yestracers It is the way how the game was originally designed anyway. I doubt they were thrown there just for decoration. Maybe is not a problem if one have been playing it for years but accessibility is still very important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted January 29, 2020 15 hours ago, BrandonBranderson said: If I remember correctly the addition of the weapon skin system is what broke them. I've always liked the look of them. APB isn't really a super realistic looking game so I think they fit well in the environment. Weirdly, Innova managed to keep both weapon skins and weapon tracers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted January 29, 2020 I there are enough reason for people to make fun of APB without adding tracers back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotatoeGirl 220 Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, CookiePuss said: I there are enough reason for people to make fun of APB without adding tracers back. I can make fun of it just now: "+6 years and still can't fix essential game feature" imagine playing chess without the chess board. You can probably still do it but woudl you want to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkittyM 287 Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 5:21 PM, VickyFox said: The Raptor 45 'Condor' (Joker Mystery Box 17) is a he legendary assault rifle has a one of a kind mod call "XTD-7s Silencer", At this time it is the only gun in game that will not show up on radar... However this only applies to the first 3 bullets fired. Not the greatest benefit to the user, but the first 3 bullets being masked may just give enough of a delayed reaction from the target. Reminder that its thanks to the Condor that the radar is broken. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5373 Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) On 1/28/2020 at 5:21 PM, VickyFox said: The Raptor 45 'Condor' (Joker Mystery Box 17) is a he legendary assault rifle has a one of a kind mod call "XTD-7s Silencer", At this time it is the only gun in game that will not show up on radar... However this only applies to the first 3 bullets fired. Not the greatest benefit to the user, but the first 3 bullets being masked may just give enough of a delayed reaction from the target. If you are reacting to the radar instead of being shot repeatedly... Well I don't even know what to say to that. Edited January 30, 2020 by CookiePuss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites