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might as well after the latest patch rebuffing the oca and nerfing the pmg which I don't remember anyone crying that the oca nerf was bad. It seems like they are trying to see meta shifts vs actually trying to balance anything yet. Because if they wanted to balance everything, doing it in baby steps would be a good idea rather than trying to hit a homerun and make the game an even playing field with one fatal swoosh.

You don't need a 3 slot. Also oscar is not as easy to play as the Joker Carbine. Or rent it off the Armas store, and get a better discount to buy it. Or play the game, and one of the contacts will give you a 2 slot oscar to rent. APB isn't pay 2 win as many people will kick and scream that it is. I play the STAR (that no slot beginners weapon) and find it to be one of my favorites able to shred mid range and hip fire close range. Also most the weapons on ARMAS are just reskins of guns you can rent with in-game cash. And any gun that isn't, is generally underpowered and in need of a buff. So if you are a god using the Joker Carbine, then perhaps you should use the oscar but don't expect it to win you every game. I am surprised that the oscar isn't on the JT store though and I do see it as an excellent addition.

You never tried to get rich then. You know there are ways to make money outside of missions right? Try making goods and selling them. Stop calling them scammers, if you got what you paid for its not a scam. Also, anyone can type /y WTS (enter good here) and avoid the tax, and even list there price under what people in the auction kiosk are selling for. Removing the tax will not in fact fix this. What you are asking for, is for Little Orbit to watch over the economy. Which is called Modified capitalism, which unless LO can get the staff to watch over each and every trade. Its not going to happen. capitalism capitalism Never, every time I was looking for a legendary they asked me for my offer first. You could always wait? Waiting on a purchase today may get you a deal tomorrow. Just have patience and you could eventually get a deal that you like. It also sounds like you play in the EU, which has nearly 5 times the players NA does so your options should be wider than NA. Try every day, have patience. You will eventually get something you want or realize that maybe you don't want the item anymore. Ever heard of window shopping? The prices haven't changed so much because it's a recent change. You went from the Joker boxes 1% to now being able to rent them, and get a permanent chance of getting them and also having a chance of getting one via buy JT directly. So by making Legendries easier to acquire the prices may stay the same or start dropping do to supply and demand. Are you telling me you haven't seen nearly everyone using an Ursus these days? Or the huntress, new glory or any legendary for that matter? You don't seem to understand what examples are. Also I am not troll pricing, the price I have seen for IR3 has been between 120k-140k. False, I was telling you that your reasons are wrong for removing the tax. And said alternatively adding a tax to trading would make both a "fair market" I am not a rich APB player, all 4 of my characters have about 100k each. And I still do not defend removing the tax for what might be a small grazing period of low prices. Which in turn will just make prices go up once people realize they can just keep selling at the same price and earn more because the tax does not exist. Your argument seems to be you aren't making enough money via kiosks/afk methods so you want the tax lifted so you can make more by doing nothing. Or your argument is to remove the tax to "reduce prices" which would only happen for a little while before returning to the price they are set today. And like I said, when I started playing IR3 average price was around 90k, now it shot up to 120k and I'm trying to tell you that wasn't because of some tax.

I think some games do that, apb should too

The argument is, that lets say you add a threat: platinum. so now there is bronze silver gold platinum in such a small population bronzes become silver, silvers become gold, golds become platinum. That doesn't solve much, then platinum players will dethreat to gold, gold will still dethreat to silver Long term, this solves nothing. APB 2.1 is going to host true fixes to matchmaking and slapping tooth paste, floss, duct tape, and bandaid fixes isn't going to help anything in the long term and may only hurt the population more than fix it. if that's not the reason, then another reason would be more threats would separate players even more, because bronze and silvers will still be in bronze, silver and golds will still be in silver. but now platinum are stuck alone with each other.

Imagine you go to the market place for improved rifling 3 the usual price these days is ~140k so now, lets take the tax off How it might start, you probably would see people undercutting those who put there stuff up for sale at 90k-140k but it would only be a matter of time until you start seeing those prices again. When I first started playing, you could nab improved rifling 3 for ~90k now it shot up to 130k. That wasn't a result of the tax, its called people started realizing that they could charge more because it's either you buy it from them, or you grind for it. The reasons you provide are not very concrete for trying to remove the tax. A method of trying to keep people from becoming too rich in a F2P game. If everyone was rich, prices would have to increase which leads to inflation making your hard earned APB dollars even more worthless "Removal of competitive marketing which has lead to the appearance of... "Dealers". Weapon dealers mostly that will try buying the gun very cheap and sell it very expensive" That's capitalism for ya, all that was done was the competitive market was taken out of the auction kiosk and put into player hands via trading. So be a smart consumer all there is too it. They aren't so much as dealers, as they are second hand shops. Again not a result of the tax, but simply preying on those who don't have the goods unlocked. Because as of now, it's easier to get $ than it is to unlock any mods. Also in terms of legendary weapons, they should stay high in price. LO already made them less rare by allowing players to use JT to get them and a lot more ways to get them by chance. In conclusion, removing the tax, would only result in short term price drops and would only result in players eventually getting even more money off the auction kiosk. And if players are earning more money prices of other goods will need to increase. And if both keep going up the APB $ will go down in value. 1000$ will eventually be only worth 1$. This is why having that 20$ to delete money is a good thing. It makes your money more valuable. APB's market is one that is capitalistic and competitive outside the kiosks, the Auction house is now more of a way to AFK make money. Something you can use so you don't HAVE to /y WTS all day. Otherwise, buying things for lower prices and selling them for higher is an everyday occurrence in capitalist societies. So be a smart consumer and do your research before you purchase anything from anyone. If you do end up making a bad deal, it was your fault in the end. So to put it simple, if you want to see a competitive Auction house market scene (which there already is otherwise Improve rifling 3 wouldn't have jumped from 90k to 130k) add the tax for cash to item purchases. Or even all trades.

When i first tried playing it, hip firing and getting kills was impossible for me. Which is why i like to use marksman mode to make the spread as minimal as possible. But i didnt want to be crippled by having the fov super zoomed in or be crippled by marksman moving speed. so i choose not to run rs3 or hs3. Then like u said used muzzle break to make the recoil only go up

Can they make APB car handling similar to something BLACKBOX made? (nfs underground, most wanted, or carbon, the run) for now they'll do, but man 50mph as a top speed doesn't feel very good if they were to fix anything make all the cars have better top speeds and remove that stupid instant acceleration to top speed crap.

agreed ACT44 (golden one) was so hard for me to play to start with so i switched to the rsa which also got nerfed now, the meta is that 3 round burst pistol

well what i found, was that muzzlebreak makes the gun WAAAAY easier to predict the recoil since its more or less only going up. Then since you have to aim to be accurate with it, i put mobility sling on to compete with SMG's that dont need to be aimed. next ext mag 1 because i just needed a couple bullets of security without sacrificing reload if I get into a bind. I found that for me this was the best combo, and it made it even more fun because its not brain dead meta.

with the right mods it made for a fun anti-meta smg, that could rival the pmg. but since the oca buff it would just be easier to use it rather the tommy. If you want to try what mods I used for the tommy i used: Muzzle Break, Mobility Sling, and extended mag 1

they made the tommy gun useless because of this buff

this would be a great addition! Alternatively the mod could be leveled like: Level 1: 10% easier to stun, get out of stunned state 20% faster level 2: 15% easier to stun, get out of stunned state 35% faster level 3: 20% easier to stun, get out of stunned state 45% faster This is just an example, im sure someone else could make this more balanced than I (cause this idea kinda makes the mod sound niche) But hey if theres a mod that allows people to be just about immune to getting killed by cars why not also have one for stuns?

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TGM said I should post my complaints here

after having laughing crying and dislike emotes removed i dont think we have that privilege anymore

congratulations you made the OCA op put it back the way it was, IT WAS FINE

Its hard to say, if you nerf the Ntec you make it harder for the pros to play it, but also make it impossible to play if you are newer. So, they did make it more the meta (which it already was before the nerf) so my hopes were maybe I could play it XD (which I still cant) This game + gun balance is so off the walls. You try and think of ways to nerf the ntec, but as a result something else will be made the meta. So it's probably time to start buffing other guns instead of nerfing everything.

Well then im sure LO would have access to them too. Still, converting the assets to also look nice in a newer engine can be time consuming and problematic. Plus, maybe another thing to keep in mind. LO and im sure majority of the community know that APB might as well be duct tape/bandaided together On the surface it might look nice but a lot of the stuff under the hood is a mess. So maybe something that looks fine in unreal 3 is completely broken in 3.5 If LO wanted to they probably would just release the engine but, they know that if they did it would be a disaster. I mean, people who played the 3.5 beta A BETA complained so much, which (if they read the tracking the engine thread) the LUT system was broke causing the undesirable appearance of the game + LO was testing for the first time how the engine would handle all the people at once. So I bet next test it will run better and/or they will have more data for optimizing. Next thing people complained about was performance (which LO has been working on for what seems forever now and seem to be making progress) a lot of stutter issues started to dissipate later in the testing I played as long as I could until they kicked me out, and I think the first hour was the worst then everything started to iron out once people stopped logging in for the first time. All we can do is wait, APB is free after all you don't HAVE to buy anything to play.

one thing i noticed while playing other shooters, if you aim your gun, the bullets go there. A lot of guns in this game either benefit like normal games while other guns get 0 benefit from marksman mode. if you want to add challenge to weapons make them more accurate but recoil way more. This would make them rewarding and engaging.

I think it has to do with file types. Ill use skyrim as an example since ive become quite good at modding it. Both skyrim, fallout, and skyrim se use .nif files these are object files (meshes) so you would think you could just drag and Drop nifs between games since all 3 use nif files. But even though they are nif. They all aren't created equal. So Skyrim to Skyrim SE simply require the nif to be optimized for se but might still work. But skyrim to fallout might be a bigger pain to try and do. so i bet the jump from 3 to 3.5 is the easiest. Plus 3.5 was already started. I bet you a million bucks, LO wouldn't have bought reloaded productions/gamersfirst/apb if the engine upgrade wasn't already in progress. p.s. i think anyone could half patootie take apb and put it into unreal 5 but it just wouldn’t look good or run good.

I guess on paper it might sound stupid, but I believe they tested the oca up against the pmg and maybe they thought this was a good balance (at least thats what i hope) *shrug* I had made the point before that APB's combat is outdated, like why do cardboard boxes stop bullets? A proper penetration system would be great! I mean the cap40 already demonstrates this concept. Another part is back in the day apb would be an mmo. but since battle royals are pushing the 80 player per server thing. APB's combat just needs to be renewed without totally changing the gameplay feel. Then again, APB's simple combat setup is appealing in a way. The biggest issue with having real hitboxes is everyone would have to be the same height and possibly weight I thought since everyone's feet are generally in the same spot you could make the lower part of the basic hitbox deal less damage. LO atm just needs to untangle the code that is APB Live. Then maybe we can see more modern gunplay.

I bet if they wanted, they could just take the engine and half patootie place stuff into Unreal 3.5 even 4 and everything will generally look the same even maybe play the same. If you go back to previous tracking the engine upgrade posts, they show how vertices aren't "welded" together and how indirect lighting needed to be contained within cells or how shadows don't display right. Although I bet most of that has been ironed out since, and now they are trying their best to get the game looking better and performing better or as good as apb 1.20 (Live)

what if every gun had the same ttk, but was balanced by other means? So that way each gun could be different but also have potential to fight every gun, so that way its player preference? with some exceptions of course

PMG nerf is what I saw as nice, but yea i concur