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Need more clothes (Less themed clothing, go away four horsemen) Need more symbols (Simple shapes) or more robust editor Need more server stability. Cant stay on the game if the game is in the middle of hurricane country. Cant give clothes to people when no one is online.

Since topics are usually unresolved in a short amount of time, the same topics get brought up over and over. Since there are only so many words you can use to express the same topic time and time again no one wants to repeat the same words as that is "boring" and "old". So to keep the topic fresh even though its been repeated a number of times the complexity of ideas plummets each time its brought up until it turns into straight out demands and/or ideas that aren't properly thought out. Its not hard to understand what is being said. And it actually happens on these forums. Its why the forums have gotten so boring and stale over time, very rarely is anyone consistent for an extended period of time. To be honest when big discussion threads were necro'd that was better because anyone looking in on the problem got the whole picture.

Selling NL-9 15k. New stock: OPGL 25k Osmaw 35k Special Offer: Golden osmaw 55k Seriously though. I actually wear glasses. Now what?

Is APB BR not a new game mode for the other types of players? The players that want a BR? BR in APB is already a new game mode. Are players who want large scale cops vs crims the only "other" type of APB players? What about the people who want pve content? There are a number of "types" of APB players. Anarchy: District wide free for all. Fight club: 16v16 or 20v20. It seems like we already had/have what your definition of "other" apb players want. This doesnt seem like a well thought out idea. It just sounds like you want a domination game mode in financial. We already have a domination mode in asylum. Even baylan in the past has had it. What about any of this is "new" or "ideal"?

If they understand without you, you dont need to make a thread. If they understand without you, this is not a public reprimand, they already understand to make less mistakes. What is the point of this thread?

Ackackually the poll is not accurate because gender does not equal biological sex.

Selling NL9 - 15k each.

Then so is society i guess.

Being pedantic would be using a single sentence or phase to completely discredit what was said by either the person or others. If Saying "Gg ez squeez, etc" once, periodically or was the sole reason for quitting, i would have agreed with you. Arguing about these context points is how society actually draws the line between generic insults and harassment. Saying "im specifically disagreeing with the inclusion of generic - if distasteful - insults, trash talk, and general text-assholery as harassment while agreeing that things beyond that line (e.g. physically affecting gameplay or potentially breaking laws) are an issue that could be addressed, albeit not very effectively" Would have logically made more sense, instead of quoting a singular sentence/ phrase to further your argument. Even then in everyday society "insults, trash talk and general patootie holey CAN be harassment" See; work place harassment or sexual harassment. As one example. It doesn't have to be extreme to cross the line if it happens on a regular basis.

Or email them directly to MattScott.

How bothered do you have to be to blatantly misrepresent someones argument.

Title of thread: I see low-level players being harassed by skilled players Part of your response: Actual harassment like extensive griefing/teamkilling or death threats/slurs in chat is a separate matter Me: ??? Except the person you quoted is talking about the same topic as the OP. "This is an issue" As in, "Harrassment" is an issue. Not "Gg ez pz squeez". You were already lumping in "mean words" and "harassment" as the same thing in your very first respone to the OP. So i can see why you get mixed up. So instead of removing toxic people at the base level, you would rather remove the people that become toxic because of the toxic people? Even though you also need the some sort of justification to be toxic to others in the first place.

Is that what you qualify as "harassment"? I don't think that's what OP qualifies as harassment and there are players who go above and beyond those phrases in game on a regular basis towards pretty much anyone. If the players that get upset are just as toxic, are you saying you would rather have toxic people that dont get upset over people who do get upset and forget about reducing toxicity overall? OP hasnt really shown himself to relate to your anecdotal evidence so far, so maybe he has a case?

its a start, everything seems pretty cheap. But i guess i gotta start spending 40k JT somewhere.

Cant play the game if the servers are laggyyyyyy.

Details like these are usually the best however there is almost no source material for this kind of customization. To answer your spoiler question though Same as the old forums.

G1 changed the server hardware 3 times. None of those times did server stability actually improve. Not only that, EU never got the server upgrade they were scheduled for during the second wave of hardware changes. Where were you then?

Server stability. Im a 24/7 TDM freak so as long as a game has players and runs smoothly i don't care about much else.

For the sake of the argument lets say i have experienced both sides and i still hold the same positions, because you still have to substantiate your opinions and claims Now can you translate what you've said into any of the questions i've laid out before? Im looking forward to seeing the differences between two people who have had the same experiences but came to different conclusions. The whole point of "debating" is having the most logically sound argument, its not always a competition of who can remember the most correct answers. It is possible to use good logical reasoning to reach a sound conclusion regardless of when you know the relevant information. When i ask you a question im questioning how sound your argument is. Im not asking you a question about something that is not understood. I was very clear differentiating where the harm can come from. You don't have to cheat to understand the difference between playing a game and gaming as a whole. No one is claiming that cheating is the biggest issue to plague the industry (lets be real some people are), however just because its not taking over 50% of the industry does not mean it causes an acceptable amount of damage. Because you're begging the question, you have already said that you know that your personal amount of harm dealt is minimal, and yet you will not substantiate as to how you would know this. Its YOUR claim that your time as a cheater had no effect or caused "minimal" damage (community or industry wise). When the cheating industry as a whole (your time included) has been documented to have a large effect on the gaming industry that means that everything (your time included again) adds up and you cant add up with 0's. Talk about not having an informational basis.

How do you know this? What kind of data is accessible to you as a cheater to know how much damage you cause? It may be true to have a higher chance of encountering a cheater however that doesnt mean they are not visable in any other game. https://mashable.com/article/csgo-record-vac-bans/ https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/how-many-apex-legends-cheaters-have-been-banned-so-far-436774 https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/03/cheat-makers-say-theyre-cleaning-up-in-apex-legends/ Another thing you don't explicitly know. You dont know how other people respond to cheating behavior because you cant see beyond their character. Gaming might not be peoples livelihoods, however people play games for entertainment in their free time. Do you think some people would be ok if their entertainment in their free time was interrupted by someone continually cheating? What does the gaming industry being 40 years have to do with anything? Have we reached peak gaming industry? Has everything that can be done been done already? Cheating "persists" in every country. Does Korea lack cultrual education also? https://dotesports.com/overwatch/news/south-korean-law-to-punish-boosters-passes-in-the-national-assembly https://www.fraghero.com/korean-government-makes-cheating-videogames-actual-crime/ If there were no cheat users, cheat developers would be worthless. What does this mean? Are you saying you cant understand what harm cheat users cause unless you cheat yourself? Are you saying that you have knowledge about other people you can only know if you cheat? Based on what you've said so far, if individual cheaters caused almost no harm, then why ban them at all?

Im not sure you need a psychological degree to know that usually people take actions based on their past experiences and sometimes future goals to make themselves happy or to reduce the most amount of harm done to them.

Cheating mentality is not hard to understand, it might be hard to accept but its by no means a hyper complex state of mind. Its mostly a means to an end, and those being money or fame or recognition or respect either from others or themselves.

Except from the same experience i can argue something else entirely. Besides common sense being vacuous. There have been documented cases of Counter Strike ( You know of this game right?) PROFESSIONALS, that were caught cheating. Not 360 spin botting in tournaments, but changes so subtle that they lasted years before caught. Even then, those subtle "advantages" were so small, every single one of those pros would still be better than you at the game, that's a given. So at the very beginning its not only a case of being objectively "good" or not. Cheating is not a biological disposition like being gay or disease. Cheating is a choice, at no point in time is a person so out of control that they can not decide whether to start cheating or stop cheating. Its a constant choice to turn on your pc, turn on the game and turn on cheats. Its a multiple stage choice. You cant choose to be gay or to stop having cancer. "When a cheater gets banned, he only learns how to avoid getting caught, and doesn't learn how to stop cheating." - This is the WHOLE REASON why today, bans are delayed and take so long to enact. Delays hinder that kind of information gathering. Even if they use one part of a cheat they still wont know what they did while using it that gave themselves away. Such as; following players no matter where they are on the map would gain more attention as opposed to being in the right area at the right time. Unfortunately, theres a lot of dumb people who gain a bias towards themselves and others who have been playing games clean for years. Its not impossible for a cheater or ex cheater to change their mindset when it comes to playing games fairly. If nothing stops a cheater from deleting files or downloading them again, nothing is there to stop a "clean" player from copying those files or downloading them either. Everyone has the same opportunity to turn to the underground of gaming given their mentality. Just because you are "clean" now, does not mean you always will be, everyone started from 0. It should be common sense to not stereotype large groups of people, instead of trying to figure out if a person does or doesn't represent the other 99%, maybe we should judge them on a case by case basis? At the end of the day its up to them to change, no amount of belittling or strong arming people into justice is going to change that. So there is no point in accusing people of crimes that are yet to happen. There are probably more productive things people can do to incentivize playing clean, instead of waiting in the shadows ready to call out "I knew it". I guarantee i might have a stroke one day.

You only pointed out that not that cheating cant turn into convictions but just that usually cheating doesn't turn into convictions. Right now, it costs too much money (according to you) to find and catch cheat developers, however, if that were to change by some form of technology reducing this cost generally (since for extreme cases this technology already works) , we would be right where thejellygoo theorized we would be. Saying something is improbable as opposed to being impossible is quite literally talking apples to oranges. Once the means are realistically applicable, the courts wont do anything to stop them from happening. We're talking a gigantic industry with millions of people. That seems like it could have a big effect on a game or gaming industry. If youre appart of the problem you should be held accountable. Do you get let off from jail time because during a riot you only stole 1 item and everyone else stole 50? Do you get let off from jail because you only beat up a person someone else killed? Also; see Nazi's. Not every Nazi would have killed someone but they were held accountable for the actions of their ideals.

Personally, my drive is to be "good", as per my definitions, i don't really care for the standards of others. I set a goal and work for it, once i reach that goal i set a higher one. Over the 11 years of gaming experience I've had you can reasonably estimate the level of my current goals. Any particular person i kill, beat, defeat, whatever, is just another number to me. Even then i believe in quality > quantity.