How low have it fell? Is this a new reality for APB now?

[SelttikS 224]

7 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

So... people are getting banned or they arent? Im confused. Of course people get banned for many things. So you say people are getting banned, just not for cheating? Or something else?

 

Trust is earned my friend. LO seems to understand this, you should too.

Sorry I interpreted your comment about "even now in bronze" to heavily imply that no one cheats in bronze and thus that being the only reason someone could be banned for. Of course people are still getting banned for their foul behavior.

Ok then they have earned trust by their actions and statements, there is that better for your nielist view point? They have done what they have said they would and given no indication of doing anything but

[CookiePuss 5378]

14 minutes ago, SelttikS said:

Sorry I interpreted your comment about "even now in bronze" to heavily imply that no one cheats in bronze and thus that being the only reason someone could be banned for. Of course people are still getting banned for their foul behavior.

Ok then they have earned trust by their actions and statements, there is that better for your nielist view point? They have done what they have said they would and given no indication of doing anything but

No I meant cuz you play in bronze, Ive been facing the same blatant hackers every day in silver since LO announced they basically dont have a functioning anti cheat.

Also, other than giving us a new forum, Im not sure what else they have "done". I have no problems with LO, but at least where I come from actions earn trust, not words.

That's all Im trying to say.

 

But just to be clear, you are saying you know of players who have been banned for "cheats" since LO took over?

 

Also, this thread isnt the application for GM / Mod

Edited June 4, 2018 by CookiePuss

[Lato 188]

Why can't you all have some god damn patience?

[CookiePuss 5378]

1 minute ago, Lato said:

Why can't you all have some god damn patience?

I think what people are upset about is not that LO hasn't yet made the game cheat-free, but rather that by announcing to us all that FF is out of date, they dont trust it, and are having to manually evaluate every single ban, it has led to a surge in the number of cheaters in the game on a daily basis.

 

Sort of a "thanks for making things worse" type of anger, not a "why havent you done anything yet?" anger.

[MySodium 29]

Yes, yes... We heard it a thousand times. OP's right tho, right now the game's unplayable for me.. to many blatant cheaters roaming around freely. I'm gonna take a break and wait for Battleye, no point in playing the game atm without losing a few brain cells

[MrChan 337]

16 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

I think what people are upset about is not that LO hasn't yet made the game cheat-free, but rather that by announcing to us all that FF is out of date, they dont trust it, and are having to manually evaluate every single ban, it has led to a surge in the number of cheaters in the game on a daily basis.

 

Sort of a "thanks for making things worse" type of anger, not a "why havent you done anything yet?" anger.

But if they hadn't said anything about FF or BattlEye you'd have people going: "WhERe's tHe CoMmuniCaTIOn aBoUt thE ChEAting ProBLem?"

 

Simple fact is until they've had time to actually FIX the game, people are going to cry no matter what LO do.

Edited June 4, 2018 by MrChan

[CookiePuss 5378]

4 minutes ago, MrChan said:

But if they hadn't said anything about FF or BattlEye you'd have people going: "WhERe's tHe CoMmuniCaTIOn aBoUt thE ChEAting ProBLem?"

 

Simple fact is until they've had time to actually FIX the game, people are going to cry no matter what LO do.

This is true, but if they cannot handle players crying they bought the wrong freaking game lmfao.

And regardless, a bad decision is a bad decision. Just because it was easier doesnt mean a thing.

[MrChan 337]

6 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

This is true, but if they cannot handle players crying they bought the wrong freaking game lmfao.

And regardless, a bad decision is a bad decision. Just because it was easier doesnt mean a thing.

Well, I thought we wanted open communication and lots of info on what's going on?

 

We can't have it both ways. If we want LO tell us everything they can, and then they so happen to tell us something that makes people go cheat crazy as they shoot their sticky loads whilst they still can before BattlEye comes along and cuts their jacobs off, then that's part of the deal, imo.

 

 

And again, I'd dispute that it's any crazier than it has been for the last 18 months or so since PB was turned off.

Edited June 4, 2018 by MrChan

[Xnetexe 78]

6 hours ago, 3D_fobia said:

I miserably fail to figure out how to attach pictures at this high-tech forum :C

There are two ways to attach an image:

1. Upload the image(s) to an image hosting site such as imgur or photobucket. Then copy and paste the BBCode for the uploaded image into the text box.
2. On the bottom right corner of the text box is the "Insert other media" drop down button. Select "Insert image from URL" and enter a URL that contains only the image.

[CookiePuss 5378]

9 minutes ago, MrChan said:

 

We can't have it both ways.

 

 

 

We dont want it both ways. Aside from cheaters, I dont think anyone wanted LO to admit they have no real working anti cheat.

It was just a dumb idea. LO screened the questions before hand. They decided which questions Kemp could and couldnt ask. Some questions were turned down, that one was not. They did not tell us "everything" they told us what they chose to tell us. Which was smart aside from this one topic.

[kendric2000 21]

Watch Little Orbit stealth patch in Battleye when we least expect it. Surprise cheaters! Banned. 

 

I'm taking a short break until Battleye drops. I'd rather LO take their time and do it right than rush out a 'fix' and make things worse. How mad would people be then? 

[CookiePuss 5378]

1 minute ago, kendric2000 said:

 

 

I'm taking a short break until Battleye drops. I'd rather LO take their time and do it right than rush out a 'fix' and make things worse. How mad would people be then? 

Thats actually a good point.

I can confirm, would be mad.

[kendric2000 21]

Just now, CookiePuss said:

Thats actually a good point.

I can confirm, would be mad.

I can't even imagine what they walked in to, weirdly patched servers barely working. Coding they have never laid eyes upon. Can you even imagine the learning curve they must have? I don't envy the job they have. But I am pleased they are sharing info and doing things in a non-rushed but timely manner. Kudos to them. 

[CookiePuss 5378]

Just now, kendric2000 said:

I can't even imagine what they walked in to, weirdly patched servers barely working. Coding they have never laid eyes upon. Can you even imagine the learning curve they must have? I don't envy the job they have. But I am pleased they are sharing info and doing things in a non-rushed but timely manner. Kudos to them. 

While I doubt they were clueless when they walked in, yes APB was in a sad state.

And we certainly shouldn't hold them accountable for anything but what they've said and what they've promised.

[TheAceNinja 38]

1 hour ago, kendric2000 said:

Watch Little Orbit stealth patch in Battleye when we least expect it. Surprise cheaters! Banned. 

 

I'm taking a short break until Battleye drops. I'd rather LO take their time and do it right than rush out a 'fix' and make things worse. How mad would people be then? 

 

Can't be done. BE is client-side and you generally have to accept it's license and terms when it's being installed like old PB. So everyone will clearly see that it's now live.

 

1 hour ago, MrChan said:

Well, I thought we wanted open communication and lots of info on what's going on?

 

The communication isn't a problem. The problem is that they openly admitted to tuning FF down even lower and disabling the auto-banning feature. So you legit have a much large amount of people going ham right now because there's practically zero risk of getting banned. It's akin to when FF was first implemented. They threw it up quietly, a bunch of people continued to rage hack, got flagged, and then got banned. Then G1 thought it was the smartest move to not only announce FF but openly state that it mainly tracks a players stats, so then a lot of high-rank hard-botters started closeting a lot more and went for months and years under the radar.

 

That's like announcing to everyone in a large Casino that your Security Cameras are no longer working but they will be soon, and you have a few people walking around to catch the cheaters and thiefs. Yeah, SOME will still get caught, but a whoooooooooooooole lot more are gonna get away with it.

[LilyV3 323]

I don't know what people expect and makes thme all stream back to the game if they stopped playing. NOTHING changed yet. it makes sense to return when battle eye will be out. And given that FF is said to be active, i still think its set to: no one gets banned. because given the blatant cheating atm with extreme settings it surely does nothing at all.

 

 

[SelttikS 224]

14 hours ago, TheAceNinja said:

 

Can't be done. BE is client-side and you generally have to accept it's license and terms when it's being installed like old PB. So everyone will clearly see that it's now live.

 

 

The communication isn't a problem. The problem is that they openly admitted to tuning FF down even lower and disabling the auto-banning feature. So you legit have a much large amount of people going ham right now because there's practically zero risk of getting banned. It's akin to when FF was first implemented. They threw it up quietly, a bunch of people continued to rage hack, got flagged, and then got banned. Then G1 thought it was the smartest move to not only announce FF but openly state that it mainly tracks a players stats, so then a lot of high-rank hard-botters started closeting a lot more and went for months and years under the radar.

 

That's like announcing to everyone in a large Casino that your Security Cameras are no longer working but they will be soon, and you have a few people walking around to catch the cheaters and thiefs. Yeah, SOME will still get caught, but a whoooooooooooooole lot more are gonna get away with it.

 

You know its not a bad comparison at all. Only difference is the Casino can not print money.

 

 

6 hours ago, LilyV3 said:

I don't know what people expect and makes thme all stream back to the game if they stopped playing. NOTHING changed yet. it makes sense to return when battle eye will be out. And given that FF is said to be active, i still think its set to: no one gets banned. because given the blatant cheating atm with extreme settings it surely does nothing at all.

 

 

People come back because of that spark of hope and nostalgia i presume. Though some come just to cash in before the changes.

 

Edited June 5, 2018 by SelttikS

[Fortune Runner 796]

On 6/4/2018 at 9:17 AM, 3D_fobia said:

I just returned from my nearly a year without (somewhat) beloved APB. And the only reason for this is this hype around the new 'second chance' for APB.

And the very first day I arrived I saw dozens of people doing nothing except aimboting, wallhacking and even speadhacking.

Doing it explicitly and without any shame. Like there is nothing wrong with it and this game we are playing was created to be played that way.

Some of them even advertized resources on which they took their soft on.

Is that a new reality of APB right now? Like, what can players do about it if creators do not care that much? (yet?)

 

I do have screenshots of this nonsence but I miserably fail to figure out how to attach pictures at this high-tech forum :C

actually you are not supposed to publicly "name and shame"

 

Little Orbit made it clear they are removing the server ban notices because of how toxic it made things become.

plus just a screenshot doesn't prove anyone is cheating or not anyways - not saying they were not but it cant show anything to prove for or against them - only that they were there

 

it would take a video of that and not a laggy one which means a decent computer to record them with

A Geforce graphics card has built in recording so id recommend a 1080 Ti graphics card but if you are on a budget a 1050 ti would be good enough

[Puffdragon 131]

On 6/4/2018 at 9:17 AM, 3D_fobia said:

I just returned from my nearly a year without (somewhat) beloved APB. And the only reason for this is this hype around the new 'second chance' for APB.

And the very first day I arrived I saw dozens of people doing nothing except aimboting, wallhacking and even speadhacking.

Doing it explicitly and without any shame. Like there is nothing wrong with it and this game we are playing was created to be played that way.

Some of them even advertized resources on which they took their soft on.

Is that a new reality of APB right now? Like, what can players do about it if creators do not care that much? (yet?)

 

I do have screenshots of this nonsence but I miserably fail to figure out how to attach pictures at this high-tech forum :C

You have to be patient, the new admins are literally green. Gamersfirst left the house with the water running and they are trying to clean up. If you would be more patient and read, you would realize that the anti-cheat is under heavy maintenance right now. Anyways see you tomorrow.

[Techdev 11]

I'm a relic from the past, false hope is the work of the devil, and we al know the devil!!!

Telling ppl he isn't real, does not exist etc.... 

 

You should know better by now..

 

[Puffdragon 131]

22 minutes ago, Techdev said:

I'm a relic from the past, false hope is the work of the devil, and we al know the devil!!!

Telling ppl he isn't real, does not exist etc.... 

 

You should know better by now..

 

If you are a relic from the past you should probably stay hidden.

[The Regulator 4]

There are not as many cheaters as most people think.

[TheAceNinja 38]

9 minutes ago, The Regulator said:

There are not as many cheaters as most people think.

 

Imagine being this ignorant. Lol

[CookiePuss 5378]

10 minutes ago, TheAceNinja said:

 

Imagine being this ignorant. Lol

Not naming any names, but someone told me today that they had been playing APB for 8 years and that cheaters have never been a problem. 

 

Imagine being THAT ignorant!

[Puffdragon 131]

2 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Not naming any names, but someone told me today that they had been playing APB for 8 years and that cheaters have never been a problem. 

 

Imagine being THAT ignorant!

Kind of obvious when they snap to your team-mate / corpse.