Does RFP need a nerf?

[DonBlack 59]

RFP is a pocket Obir as you know.

Would you change it? If yes how?

 

I would make spread wider with every shot in burst so its not that strong on range.

Edited June 9, 2019 by DonBlack

[CookiePuss 5378]

I don't mind the RFP. 

It's certainly not a "pocket obir". 

But making it less useful in all situations might not be a bad idea. 

Hipfire accuracy nerf maybe. 

[cheater 296]

3 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

It's certainly not a "pocket obir". 

47 effective meter range for the Fang, not a pocket obir

[vsb 6171]

knock the ttk back so that it can no longer outshoot an obir under 50m

 

or

 

roll back the last buff it got to hipfire/accuracy

[Ketog 1031]

5 minutes ago, cheater said:

47 effective meter range for the Fang, not a pocket obir

it can actually kill people in 3 burst up to 52 due to overdamage .

 

 

 

I think it's minimum damage should be reduced , and it's hipfire accuracy mostly too , maybe a very slight rate of fire nerf so you can't just outplay an obir under 52 meters.

 

i honestly don't really know what to do to nerf the gun and keep it's feeling but it definetely needs some tweaks .

 

 

[CookiePuss 5378]

48 minutes ago, cheater said:

47 effective meter range for the Fang, not a pocket obir

Obir is effective up to render distance.

Git Gud.

 

 

Jokes aside, as I said before the problem with the RFP isnt that its effective at range, its that its both effective at range AND cqc.

 

Edited February 13, 2019 by CookiePuss

[Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 269]

@CookiePuss seems a lot of these threads are popping up. Maybe I should make a few of my own :^)

[CookiePuss 5378]

Just now, Weeb TheEpicGuyV2 said:

@CookiePuss seems a lot of these threads are popping up. Maybe I should make a few of my own :^)

[Shui 225]

Btw. nerf Obir too

[Nite 261]

31 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Obir is effective up to render distance.

Git Gud.

 

 

Jokes aside, as I said before the problem with the RFP isnt that its effective at range, its that its both effective at range AND cqc.

 

So knock off some of the range and drop the damage by a hair and its all good then?

[CookiePuss 5378]

Just now, Nite said:

So knock off some of the range and drop the damage by a hair and its all good then?

Yeah you could just make all RFP have the Talon base range of 30m.

Or just nerf the hipfire accuracy and leave it.

 

I doubt it will go unchanged once LO is able to focus on balance.

[Nitronik 348]

1 hour ago, CookiePuss said:

Obir is effective up to render distance.

Git Gud.

 

 

Jokes aside, as I said before the problem with the RFP isnt that its effective at range, its that its both effective at range AND cqc.

 

That's the point

now either you keep it as a ranged beast while nerfing its CQC capabilities
or you keep it as a trusty CQC sidearm (which is what it was designed for)

If they decide to go the ranged route, I'd love to get a 2rd burst sidearm that's cqc oriented... dreams

35 minutes ago, Nite said:

So knock off some of the range and drop the damage by a hair and its all good then?

that'd be the best, even without the damage nerf part

[CookiePuss 5378]

Just now, Nitronik said:

That's the point.

That's probably why Ive said it 3 times in this thread already.

[Nitronik 348]

1 minute ago, CookiePuss said:

That's probably why Ive said it 3 times in this thread already.

at least you changed your mind... progress

[CookiePuss 5378]

4 minutes ago, Nitronik said:

at least you changed your mind... progress

Not really, I still dont mind the RFP, just as I didnt mind the Yukon and the HVR.

But if it will keep bad players from crying, I say whatever.

[Guest]

nerf snub pls

[mojical 160]

51 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Yeah you could just make all RFP have the Talon base range of 30m.

Or just nerf the hipfire accuracy and leave it.

 

I doubt it will go unchanged once LO is able to focus on balance.

 

Keep in mind that just lowering the dropoff range increases the relative impact of the Fang's IR3, so while it would help when playing against it with ARs, it'll make the Fang seem more overpowered in comparison to the F2P version than it is now.

 

This is what I would do:

- Put the Talon in line with the other variants with 40m dropoff range. Come on LO, it's a bug, not a balance change...

- Set damage to 112 so a perfect 9 shot is required to kill a full HP target in 3 bursts. This'll also reduce its effective range indirectly. It will also reduce its effectiveness in hipfire due to the high likelihood of not hitting a full burst.

- Downgrade the Fang's Improved Rifling from level 3 to level 1 or 2 (not sure what the best option would be here). Another more risky option would be to replace it with HS3, since it has a scope after all. 

 

In all honesty, I would be perfectly fine with the RFP if the Fang wasn't a thing, or at least wasn't a straight upgrade over the standard RFP.  It's hard to fight the P2W stigma of this game with weapons like this.

Edited February 13, 2019 by Lyfeld

[Lign 361]

Replace ir3 on fang with ir1 or nerf base accuracy to make it harder cornerpopping and hit full burst from 40m

[CookiePuss 5378]

47 minutes ago, Lyfeld said:

 

Keep in mind that just lowering the dropoff range increases the relative impact of the Fang's IR3, so while it would help when playing against it with ARs, it'll make the Fang seem more overpowered in comparison to the F2P version than it is now.

 

This is what I would do:

- Put the Talon in line with the other variants with 40m dropoff range. Come on LO, it's a bug, not a balance change...

- Set damage to 112 so a perfect 9 shot is required to kill a full HP target in 3 bursts. This'll also reduce its effective range indirectly. It will also reduce its effectiveness in hipfire due to the high likelihood of not hitting a full burst.

- Downgrade the Fang's Improved Rifling from level 3 to level 1 or 2 (not sure what the best option would be here). Another more risky option would be to replace it with HS3, since it has a scope after all. 

 

Those are interesting ideas. Well done.

48 minutes ago, Lyfeld said:

 It's hard to fight the P2W stigma of this game with weapons like this.

Especially because for some unknown reason it still hasn't been added to the joker store.

[lauo 15]

fang is busted

fang users: 

Edited February 13, 2019 by lauo

[CookiePuss 5378]

3 minutes ago, lauo said:

fang is busted

fang users: 

I'm a .45 AP man myself. 

Sexiest gun in APB. 

[vsb 6171]

28 minutes ago, lauo said:

fang is busted

fang users: 

• meme choice - A
• meme format - C
• meme execution - F

 

[NotZombieBiscuit 3146]

8 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

I don't mind the RFP. 

It's certainly not a "pocket obir". 

But making it less useful in all situations might not be a bad idea. 

Hipfire accuracy nerf maybe. 

You're right. It isn't a pocket obir.

 

It is pretty much overall a better obir within the current meta.

[CookiePuss 5378]

1 minute ago, NotZombieBiscuit said:

You're right. It isn't a pocket obir.

 

It is pretty much overall a better obir within the current meta.

Seems odd to compare the two tbh... Other than being burst weapons, they don't play the same at all. 

 

And if you are comparing burst weapons, why not compare it to the superior OSCAR?

[Genobee 143]

3 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Seems odd to compare the two tbh... Other than being burst weapons, they don't play the same at all. 

 

And if you are comparing burst weapons, why not compare it to the superior OSCAR?

Y'know that would be a more apt comparison.. 

 

Both behave quite similarly, as opposed to the OBIR which is off in a whole different range grouping.