TrashCan 19 Posted October 15, 2018 I have found that the spawn protection is not balanced and have to be fixed! if you respawn as a crime and aim on are cop your respawn protaction is instant gone and that's fine. The cops can aim at you and the name is for 1.223 sec gray an you can hit them as a crime! Little Orbit I hope you find time to take a closer look to this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vante 63 Posted October 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, TrashCan said: the spawn protection is not balanced and have to be fixed! has* 12 minutes ago, TrashCan said: if you respawn as a crime Criminal* (or crim) 12 minutes ago, TrashCan said: aim on are cop ?! 13 minutes ago, TrashCan said: respawn protaction protection* 13 minutes ago, TrashCan said: an you can and* 13 minutes ago, TrashCan said: them as a crime! criminal* (or crim) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted October 15, 2018 i don’t think i’ve experienced this, spawn protection seems to last for 5 seconds or until a player performs an offensive action (shooting, throwing grenade, etc) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gasolina 11 Posted October 15, 2018 spawn system needs a rework as a whole. protection is the last thing I would change with the current spawn system to be honest 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snubnose 644 Posted October 15, 2018 3 hours ago, trustdealer said: spawn system needs a rework as a whole. protection is the last thing I would change with the current spawn system to be honest this. the only real occasion where spawn protection could be a problem is fightclub, because fightclub spawns are barely blocked... other than that, the spawn system itself needs a rework, not the spawn protection... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted October 15, 2018 4 hours ago, BXNNXD said: i don’t think i’ve experienced this, spawn protection seems to last for 5 seconds or until a player performs an offensive action (shooting, throwing grenade, etc) sometimes it does seem to disappear right away. possibly lag though I cant tell with the current situation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foolish ninja 59 Posted October 15, 2018 spawns should be behind buildings, so you dont spawn on the street, run 10secs to try to get to cover and die 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted October 16, 2018 I want to hope that this is just really bad bait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clandestine 390 Posted October 16, 2018 add it to the pile of things that need priority fix before engine upgrade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHidden-Tember 142 Posted October 16, 2018 As far as i'm concerned spawn protection should be removed in fight club. You can literally run with an SMG towards someone and kill him even when he started shooting first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vante 63 Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheHidden-Tember said: As far as i'm concerned spawn protection should be removed in fight club. You can literally run with an SMG towards someone and kill him even when he started shooting first. Isn’t FC the place where you actually want spawn protection? Like when you join the district and spawn in the base. It’s often crowded with enemies, especially in Baylan. Edited October 16, 2018 by Vanten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bellenettiel 232 Posted October 16, 2018 yeah down with those gosh darn cops, who do they think they aaare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 614 Posted October 16, 2018 14 hours ago, foolish ninja said: spawns should be behind buildings, so you dont spawn on the street, run 10secs to try to get to cover and die That would require a complete redesign of WF and Fin, you really think thats going to happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted October 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said: That would require a complete redesign of WF and Fin, you really think thats going to happen? yes eventually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted October 16, 2018 12 hours ago, TheHidden-Tember said: As far as i'm concerned spawn protection should be removed in fight club. You can literally run with an SMG towards someone and kill him even when he started shooting first. so you can spawn kill then in a close quarters match? uh no 10 hours ago, Bellenettiel said: yeah down with those gosh darn cops, who do they think they aaare. the ones who handcuff you for naughty time with you? 5 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said: That would require a complete redesign of WF and Fin, you really think thats going to happen? G1 did in the past so theoretically it is possible now to do so however that spawn map needs to be fixed at the same time so that its more accurate of spawns when they lay it all down again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acornie 490 Posted October 16, 2018 18 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: I want to hope that this is just really bad bait. I think it is, and I'm disappointed anyone took the bait Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucidy 21 Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 12:16 PM, Snubnose said: this. the only real occasion where spawn protection could be a problem is fightclub, because fightclub spawns are barely blocked... other than that, the spawn system itself needs a rework, not the spawn protection... That's not entirely true at all. I play FC all the time, its 50/50. You're either against a stacked team where everything is blocked and you have to wait til a force spawn because you can't actually click on any spawn locations or you spawn 5ft LOS from someone when it should've been blocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snubnose 644 Posted October 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Lucidy said: That's not entirely true at all. I play FC all the time, its 50/50. You're either against a stacked team where everything is blocked and you have to wait til a force spawn because you can't actually click on any spawn locations or you spawn 5ft LOS from someone when it should've been blocked. true, but that's the only place spawn protection COULD be a problem (it's not really, it's the spawn system iteself that's F'd up)... so yea, point still stands. spawn system needs a rework, the spawn protection ain't the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 614 Posted October 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Fortune Runner said: G1 did in the past so theoretically it is possible now to do so however that spawn map needs to be fixed at the same time so that its more accurate of spawns when they lay it all down again They did minor changes to block out camp areas that were one sided, they didnt redo the map from scratch. The way OP is saying to redo spawns would require a complete redesign with "protected" spawn areas which lets be honest will be spawn camped to hell with nade, rocket and opgl spam. Horrid idea thats a waste of time and resources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Darkzero3802 said: They did minor changes to block out camp areas that were one sided, they didnt redo the map from scratch. The way OP is saying to redo spawns would require a complete redesign with "protected" spawn areas which lets be honest will be spawn camped to hell with nade, rocket and opgl spam. Horrid idea thats a waste of time and resources. they wouldn’t have to redo the maps they’d just have to mess with the spawn system itself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Darkzero3802 said: They did minor changes to block out camp areas that were one sided, they didnt redo the map from scratch. The way OP is saying to redo spawns would require a complete redesign with "protected" spawn areas which lets be honest will be spawn camped to hell with nade, rocket and opgl spam. Horrid idea thats a waste of time and resources. exactly my point which is why theoretically its a possibility but only Little Orbit would know for sure personally I honestly believe mos t things cant be fixed properly under the current engine or we wouldn't be in this predicament. makes em feel bad for fallen earth players they have it way worse than APB Just now, BXNNXD said: they wouldn’t have to redo the maps they’d just have to mess with the spawn system itself the spawn map doesn't show properly where we spawn though so it takes ups sometimes 50m further than it says Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkzero3802 614 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: they wouldn’t have to redo the maps they’d just have to mess with the spawn system itself That makes more sense then the OP saying they should have dedicated spawns behind walls and protected. Im referring to the OPs method in my statement earlier. 4 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said: exactly my point which is why theoretically its a possibility but only Little Orbit would know for sure personally I honestly believe mos t things cant be fixed properly under the current engine or we wouldn't be in this predicament. makes em feel bad for fallen earth players they have it way worse than APB Things like threat and matchmaking can be fixed without the need for a new engine, other stuff like new maps and content yes I see the need for a new engine. Look at the explosive abuse in game already you really think protected dedicated spawn areas wouldnt be camped with explosives? Edited October 17, 2018 by Darkzero3802 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortune Runner 796 Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Darkzero3802 said: hings like threat and matchmaking can be fixed without the need for a new engine, other stuff like new maps and content yes I see the need for a new engine. Look at the explosive abuse in game already you really think protected dedicated spawn areas wouldnt be camped with explosives? but I'm not the op I'm the one who said its a bad idea and spawns should be fixed instead *shrugs* heres a story for you : I want to kick trashcan in his trashcan trolling butt ..... the end.... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted October 17, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 10:36 PM, Vanten said: has* Criminal* (or crim) ?! protection* and* criminal* (or crim) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Darkzero3802 said: That makes more sense then the OP saying they should have dedicated spawns behind walls and protected. Im referring to the OPs method in my statement earlier. guy you quoted seems to be saying the same thing i am, op didnt give any suggestions on what to actually do with spawns On 10/15/2018 at 7:37 PM, foolish ninja said: spawns should be behind buildings, so you dont spawn on the street, run 10secs to try to get to cover and die Share this post Link to post Share on other sites