Does Little Orbit listen to people who have been around for years or the players who have played for 20 hours?

[Darkzero3802 611]

1 hour ago, BXNNXD said:

1 hour ago, Darkzero3802 said:

They put a temp fix out and in 2 days the nerf is here.

the temp fix did nothing to the broken pellet mechanics, and the ir3 temp “fix” just removed the range but left the controversial rof decrease

and the IR3 rof decrease is still there in the new patch Edited September 18, 2018 by Darkzero3802

[TGYuurei 10]

Here's a weapon balance, play a different game.

[vsb 6171]

16 minutes ago, Darkzero3802 said:

and the IR3 rof decrease is still there in the new patch 

not sure how this relates to admitting that the ir3 change was wrong and only reverting half of it

[Darkzero3802 611]

6 minutes ago, BXNNXD said:

23 minutes ago, Darkzero3802 said:

and the IR3 rof decrease is still there in the new patch 

not sure how this relates to admitting that the ir3 change was wrong and only reverting half of it

It dont, it says they intend to keep the nerf on it.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, BrandonBranderson said:

8 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said:

Quit pleasing the silvers who have 20 hours in the game and think that know everything and sweeping aside the people who have over 3000 hours

Play the game for once please and see what its like with your amazing " balanced shotguns "

Haven't you been reading anything they have been saying for the past month?  Matt said himself that he got excited and jumped the gun on releasing the balance patch and has apologized for it and now they're fixing it.

" now "after two months. lmao kk

8 hours ago, Obvious Lesbian said:

they know the shotguns are garbage

just look at the mass of people whining on the forums

relax dude

two month~ later,

7 hours ago, TrinityFSB said:

Obviously....  Yes.  They do.

??? They do what???

2 hours ago, TGYuurei said:

Here's a weapon balance, play a different game.

ohohohohoho youre so original xdddd. what do you think Ive been doing? go away nerd.

lmao. the amount of butthurt bitches on this topic fighting to keep their last crutch is hilarious.

[magik 184]

imo, the N-TEC wasn't really that unbalanced.

You don't balance the mechanics of guns off of the casual players, but the "pros"
However, we don't really have a fully competitive gamemode that gives a similar environment to other competitive games. 
Balance the weapons off of the "specialists" for each category. No one is amazing with every-single-gun. Everyone has a weapon that they're not great at, maybe adequate, but we all have our preferences. 

I prefer to use: N-TECs, HVR's, ACES, SR15s, M1922, and JGs.
I suck with shotguns, and can't really use them, even with this current update (damn you shredders)
I still do somewhat well with my HVR and NTEC.
I'm not a professional, nor a specialist. 

I'm not "qualified" to balance out the game, but there are others who have significantly more experience, and skill.
Some have also been vocal, only to be drowned out as the minority. 
 
 

[Ketog 1031]

Well there is a reason to listen both of them

A new player can give advice from a starter point of view , while a veteran can give a more contructive and advanced advice

[Too_many_snowflakes 80]

3 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said:

" now "after two months. lmao kk two month~ later, ??? They do what??? ohohohohoho youre so original xdddd. what do you think Ive been doing? go away nerd.

lmao. the amount of butthurt bitches on this topic fighting to keep their last crutch is hilarious.

They obviously listen to the people who have been playing for years....  Did your tiny brain already forget the title of the OP??
As for your bullshoot argument of: "Hur dur dur it's been TWO WHOLE MONTHS", nobody cares about your impatience.  LO has already done more in the span of the few months they've owned APB than G1 did in the span of over a year.  They've also acknowledged the fact that shotguns and the like need more balancing, and that they're currently working on improving said mechanic. 
Give them time.  They're a production team, not your fairy god-mother.  

[Clandestine 390]

8 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said:

10 hours ago, Clandestine said:

Yeah and they had like a month already to revert shotguns back to their old balanced state and continue IR testing. Instead they just left it all to rot and make people quit.
 

They put a temp fix out and in 2 days the nerf is here.

I've played on a troll alt after that fix and without intention to kill anyone or even aiming at enemy I was still getting kills with JG.

[CookiePuss 5377]

5 hours ago, TrinityFSB said:

They obviously listen to the people who have been playing for years....  Did your tiny brain already forget the title of the OP??
As for your bullshoot argument of: "Hur dur dur it's been TWO WHOLE MONTHS", nobody cares about your impatience.  LO has already done more in the span of the few months they've owned APB than G1 did in the span of over a year.  They've also acknowledged the fact that shotguns and the like need more balancing, and that they're currently working on improving said mechanic. 
Give them time.  They're a production team, not your fairy god-mother.  

Im sure LO cares about the hundreds of players who have lost patience, they'd be dumb not to.
Comparing LO to G1, really? Couldnt find a lower bar?

LO doesnt need you defending them. Matt has acknowledged their fuck ups... just let it go.

[Too_many_snowflakes 80]

6 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Im sure LO cares about the hundreds of players who have lost patience, they'd be dumb not to.
Comparing LO to G1, really? Couldnt find a lower bar?

LO doesnt need you defending them. Matt has acknowledged their fuck ups... just let it go.

What other company should I compare them to?  G1 was the previous owner after all...
 

[CookiePuss 5377]

1 hour ago, TrinityFSB said:

What other company should I compare them to?  G1 was the previous owner after all...
 

How about literally any successful one?

[Fortune Runner 796]

6 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

7 hours ago, TrinityFSB said:

What other company should I compare them to?  G1 was the previous owner after all...
 

How about literally any successful one?

pokemon?

[Noob_Guardian 417]

On 9/17/2018 at 7:24 PM, BXNNXD said:

On 9/17/2018 at 7:12 PM, Darkzero3802 said:

They put a temp fix out and in 2 days the nerf is here.

the temp fix did nothing to the broken pellet mechanics, and the ir3 temp “fix” just removed the range but left the controversial rof decrease

they are keeping the pellet mechanics but scaling it down via more pellets

[Guest]

On 9/17/2018 at 2:47 PM, Darkzero3802 said:

On 9/17/2018 at 1:46 PM, a Pair of Socks said:

Quit pleasing the silvers who have 20 hours in the game and think that know everything and sweeping aside the people who have over 3000 hours

Play the game for once please and see what its like with your amazing " balanced shotguns "

Matt already said he messed up and rushed it and that they were fixing it with the patch in 2 days. The point of this topic is?

On 9/17/2018 at 4:21 PM, Clandestine said:

Yeah and they had like a month already to revert shotguns back to their old balanced state and continue IR testing. Instead they just left it all to rot and make people quit.
 

His response was exactly what I was going to say.

On 9/18/2018 at 1:46 AM, TrinityFSB said:

They obviously listen to the people who have been playing for years....  Did your tiny brain already forget the title of the OP??
As for your bullshoot argument of: "Hur dur dur it's been TWO WHOLE MONTHS", nobody cares about your impatience.  LO has already done more in the span of the few months they've owned APB than G1 did in the span of over a year.  They've also acknowledged the fact that shotguns and the like need more balancing, and that they're currently working on improving said mechanic. 
Give them time.  They're a production team, not your fairy god-mother.  

" they did over a year "

fuzzy bunny this arguement is getting old, when they worked on the game they added soooo much more than they have and all they have added this far was shit that g1 already has done but never implemented because they stopped giving a shit about the game! lmao!

Also, on that note, if they gave the slightest hippity hoppity fuck they would have just reverted the shotguns changes instead of letting it just sit there, completely broken as all fuck lmao.    But oh yeah, there was testing, I can hear your sweat dripplets coming through your webcam mic thats tilted up cause you clop all day, NO! There was obviously not enough testing time at all whatsoever!  A fucking infant could tell that the shotguns changes were completely broken and to leave them as such is just a huge kick in the banana lol.  But whatever, youre so blinded by your idiocy that you sit here and type shit like this.  gg my friend, press F for respect.

[Guest]

On 9/17/2018 at 1:51 PM, BrandonBranderson said:

Haven't you been reading anything they have been saying for the past month?  Matt said himself that he got excited and jumped the gun on releasing the balance patch and has apologized for it and now they're fixing it.

 do you think that if they gave a shit about them being so overpoweringly broken and heard everysingle member of the communitys side about it... that they'd fix it right away??

But no whatever, lets just milk the sells for money and move onto the next gun to break.  just like g1 did lmao

[MartisLTU 265]

On 9/17/2018 at 9:46 PM, a Pair of Socks said:

Quit pleasing the silvers who have 20 hours in the game and think that know everything and sweeping aside the people who have over 3000 hours

Play the game for once please and see what its like with your amazing " balanced shotguns "

Yeah was thinking same ... + i dont like how they ruined "IR mod" -18% fire rate :V , so future changes should be -18% range for CJ mod ?

(Would be better if they add vote topic before eny changes).

[DouglasFalcon 125]

Why bring up a 2 weeks old thread? Esp now that shotguns are no longer broken

Jeez dude u're a child

54 minutes ago, MartisLTU said:

Yeah was thinking same ... + i dont like how they ruined "IR mod" -18% fire rate :V , so future changes should be -18% range for CJ mod ?

(Would be better if they add vote topic before eny changes).

CJ has a real downside, plus the benefit it provides isn't nearly as close as old IR.
Not to mention that, if they "didn't listen to the playerbase", we would have a -21% fire rate with a +12 effective range. Thinking before typing is too hard huh?

[skerblerd 24]

Getting so emotional over a dead game says enough. Try taking a break from the game dude

[MartisLTU 265]

50 minutes ago, DouglasFalcon said:

Thinking before typing is too hard huh?

 Thinking doest equal having full information ... my comment are base on my experience not on old topics. 

p.s. dont be so salty.

[Kewlin 692]

3 hours ago, DouglasFalcon said:

Why bring up a 2 weeks old thread? Esp now that shotguns are no longer broken

You're right, they're not OP, just most of them are worse than they were before the changes.

Sounds like a good buff to shotguns to me.

[yood 345]

On 9/18/2018 at 5:17 AM, GhosT said:

You can't rely on 3000h people when talking about weapon balance.
I mean, there's people with 3000h that claim current shotguns are fine and the N-TEC is balanced.. so yeah.

You need multiple opinions on things like that, and a lot of testing.

in addition , the changes should be justified, correct and take into account the views of the majority of players.

[kurbstomp88 25]

shot guns aren't even op you people need to stop trying to force shot guns into a nitch corner camping at 5 meters because hate to break it to you that isn't playable for shot gun players and making them 3 shot kills means they will be out gunned by pretty much every gun in the game 

[Shyloid 24]

They should listen to all cool dudes like me who have 4,000 hours! 

*Cries internally*

[yood 345]

4 hours ago, Shyloid said:

They should listen to all cool dudes like me who have 4,000 hours! 

*Cries internally*

question how many hours have you been in the social district ?  p.s. naturally! I'm interested in your personal opinion . but I think mine will be more competent                                         
 
. Edited September 30, 2018 by Yood