When is RFP gonna get balanced

[NIKIZ 33]

It's basically a Obir at the moment. Why use a AP45 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL 4HEad.

 

 

[CookiePuss 5377]

45 AP has the same range as all RFPs except the Fang, is more viable in cqc and has a faster ttk.

 

Fang is a beast though, but rather than nerf Id like to see it available in game somehow.

 

(that last bit is just opinion)

 

 

 

 

 

[Mitne 724]

RFP is compact OBIR.

 

It was supposed to be compact SMG.

 

[TackoGirl 130]

I want a 3 burst primary gun with a silencer that was sickkkk! pls add this.

[Unclean 45]

2 minutes ago, TackoGirl said:

I want a 3 burst primary gun with a silencer that was sickkkk! pls add this.

FFA/OBIR with rifle silencer?

 

 

 

I could dig it..

 

 

Also, Obeya/SLR pls

[dett2 64]

very accurate , have 40m range (Fang 47m), 1.05s ttk .

yea it's Broken.

 

[CookiePuss 5377]

10 hours ago, dett2 said:

very accurate , have 40m range (Fang 47m), 1.05s ttk .

yea it's Broken.

 

Is the .45 AP also broken then? 40m range 0.80 ttk.

 

[Sayori 311]

3 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Is the .45 AP also broken then? 40m range 0.80 ttk.

 

but at least .45 has a recoil, while rfp has 0 recoil and almost pinpoint accuracy at distance. Not broken at all, amirite?

[CookiePuss 5377]

2 minutes ago, Sayori said:

but at least .45 has a recoil, while rfp has 0 recoil and almost pinpoint accuracy at distance. Not broken at all, amirite?

RFP is also much less cqc viable and available in game.

If its so OP, just use one. lol

[Hexerin 1140]

How is the RFP not CQC viable? It has better accuracy than the 45 while taking two less shots to kill and much higher overdamage. There's a reason it's so widespread used, it's easier and safer than the 45.

[Sayori 311]

5 minutes ago, Hexerin said:

How is the RFP not CQC viable? It has better accuracy than the 45 while taking two less shots to kill and much higher overdamage. There's a reason it's so widespread used, it's easier and safer than the 45.

Because Cookie thinks 0.8<1.00 ttk therefore ap45 is more viable.
But secondaries are most of the time used as finishers.  One click and you do 399 damage, good enough to finish someone who was tagged.
And the lack of recoil could let you concentrate on other things such as strafing and evading shots.

 

Edited July 8, 2018 by Sayori

[CookiePuss 5377]

6 minutes ago, Sayori said:

Because Cookie thinks 0.8<1.00 ttk therefore ap45 is more viable.
But secondaries are most of the time used as finishers.  One click and you do 399 damage, good enough to finish someone who was tagged.

 

I dunno, I own the fang, main the .45 and average 150 secondary kills a week. 

 

 

To get the most out of your secondary, you use it to compliment your main. 

For instance running a cqc primary and a ranged secondary or the opposite. 

The .45 does both. 

 

And the reason the .45 is more viable cqc is because missing one shot with the rfp increases your ttk from 1.05 to 1.4 , two shots to 1.75 making the .45 more forgiving even with less shots per mag. 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 8, 2018 by CookiePuss

[Sayori 311]

10 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

I dunno, I own the fang, main the .45 and average 150 secondary kills a week. 

 

 

To get the most out of your secondary, you use it to compliment your main. 

For instance running a cqc primary and a ranged secondary or the opposite. 

The .45 does both. 

 

And the reason the .45 is more viable cqc is because missing one shot with the rfp increases your ttk from 1.05 to 1.4 , two shots to 1.75 making the .45 more forgiving even with less shots per mag. 

 

 

 

 

True:) If you miss ttk goes up.. But don't forget you can't afford to miss more than 2 shots with ap45.

Well, best way is to find someone at around your skill level and 1v1 ap45 vs rfp in all kinds of environments. I'm confident you will get shrekt by rfp but that's just my opinion.

[Sidewayz24 15]

The RFP allows you to corner pop really effectively. Something the 45 can't do. At which point TTK becomes near irrelevant. 

Edited July 8, 2018 by Sidewayz24

[Zealocke 53]

So.. both guns are good then.. Yay!. Move along!

 

If you think RFP is broken just buy a damn RFP, because its very balanced.

 

I could say the same about the FBW and the people who use it as a damn carbine.

 

Secondaries are for:

- Compensate for your Primary's range weakness (example Cqc Primary/Long range secondary)

 

- Support finisher for when your primary runs out.

 

 

RFP, 45. and FBW do both options pretty well. Pick one!

I use a Fr0g. It works best at 10m but hey! thats what i need! it also has 3PS

 

Edited July 8, 2018 by Zealocke

[Optimus_Crime 81]

1 burst from that thing and youre already at half health i believe some nerfing on minimum should be in order, either the range or mag capacity or damage and/or accuracy adjusted slightly because it can outshoot a primary no prob at least the .45 takes some learning with it's recoil plus jamming mechanics and well not the best kind of accuracy on longer distances compared to rfp

Edited July 8, 2018 by K3i

[Clandestine 390]

Yeah it's a scrub weapon. Should get one more burst to kill

[vsb 6171]

might as well just increase the ttk to be at least equal to the obir's imo

 

 

or just revert the hipfire buff 

[CookiePuss 5377]

Just now, BXNNXD said:

 

 

or just revert the hipfire buff 

^thats actually a really good idea

[Nite 261]

1 hour ago, BXNNXD said:

or just revert the hipfire buff 

There was a hipfire buff to the RFP 9? when was this again....

 

[vsb 6171]

25 minutes ago, Nite said:

There was a hipfire buff to the RFP 9? when was this again....

 

way back in 2016 i think, they made it almost as accurate as it was in obt when it was the only secondary anyone used

[Poperon 141]

Hopefully when cows start flying

[dett2 64]

9 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Is the .45 AP also broken then? 40m range 0.80 ttk.

 

not broken,but good gun.

 

.45 AP is not so accurate and clip size is very small.

 

when cqc .45 AP is better , but almost situation RFP is better i think.