NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted May 26, 2018 Discuss: Top Tier: 4x4 Vegas, Pioneer, Dump Truck (Even after the nerfs) (Cars that everyone should have and are pretty much a standard in every mission.) Good Tier: Bishada, Jericho, Vegas. (Great alternatives that still have their places and no HUGE flaws.) Average Tier: Mikro, Espacio, Cisco, Broadwing, Fresno, CoyWolf, Vaquero, T-25. (Average. Just average. Usually good at one niche and have one feature that stands out with no MAJOR flaws. Or has something that fills the role better.) Bad Tier: Sentinel, Montane, Han Veo, Calabria, Growl, Ceresco. (Usually just all around bad or have numerous flaws. Or has something that fills the role far better.) ShLt Tier: Ravan, Varzuga. Uninstall Tier: Kurai, Moirai. (Huge flaws and just all around bad.) Changes: 1.1 - New Tier added, some moved down to it. T-25 moved based on discussion and notes on vehicles against the same role. (Mainly that a lot of the trucks were grouped in the Bad Tier and the T-25 was the slightly stand out one.) If you take this list as the be all end all, please pour your tears into my cup. No Tier List is ever to the final answer on rankings or be stuck in time for metas change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venda 13 Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) Morai is not a garbage! It's the best! imo Edited May 26, 2018 by Venda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Venda said: Morai is not a garbage! It's the best! imo I got bad news for you bud. Time to uninstall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venda 13 Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: I got bad news for you bud. Time to uninstall. But i just reinstalled.. I have 4x4 vegas, do you still let me play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dexem 57 Posted May 26, 2018 If you want my honest opinion I think Espacio needs to be bumped up to good tier as it has all the benefits of the Pioneer with the only downside is single side shooting in the back seats. The jericho also needs to be bumped down to bad tier for it's seemingly random ability to get stuck and blow up, or flip over when lightly caressing a curb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dexem said: If you want my honest opinion I think Espacio needs to be bumped up to good tier as it has all the benefits of the Pioneer with the only downside is single side shooting in the back seats. The jericho also needs to be bumped down to bad tier for it's seemingly random ability to get stuck and blow up, or flip over when lightly caressing a curb. No. This is why the Pioneer is better: - AWD for better pushing power - AWD for more benefit from nitro - AWD for better stability and reblanacing when on minimal wheels - AWD for better accel from certain positions - Pioneer is harder to tip over from others - Espacio has terrible firing angles on two of its doors - Pioneer can be jumped on from the rear while Espacio can only be jumped on from the front - Espacio is ugly Also the Jericho is at good tier due to no other better competitors in its category. Edited May 26, 2018 by NotZombieBiscuit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dexem 57 Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: - AWD for better stability and reblanacing when on minimal wheels It will never stay upsidedown 2 minutes ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: - Espacio is ugly Soccer vans are beautiful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CommandantSteele 52 Posted May 26, 2018 I personally kinda like the T-25: All wheel drive, decent cargo, 4 seats, and decent well rounded stats. It seems to reflect the actual performance of typical trucks: Does most things well, but doesn't excel while doing them. I hope to pick one up when I get the unlock, and I'll probably have that as my main vehicle. I also kinda wish crims had access to more "heavy" vehicles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted May 26, 2018 Just now, Dexem said: It will never stay upsidedown Soccer vans are beautiful Espacio can stay upside down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dexem 57 Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: Espacio can stay upside down. Yeah if u suck at driving bet you know all about that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CommandantSteele 52 Posted May 26, 2018 Just now, NotZombieBiscuit said: Espacio can stay upside down. IIRC if you bought the mammoth pack the criminal one won't stay upside down if you put the barrel decoration on top. Whatever it's called. I still think enforcers got a better deal out of that than crims. Theirs looks nicer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryanc229 15 Posted May 26, 2018 Broadwing, Espacio and Morais are the best imo, I hate how you see nothing but Vegases and Pioneers, we need the option to 'upgrade' lower end vehicles to a different tier at varying prices, it'll add more variety, you can have the vehicle you like at a tier you need. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InfernalPaladin 1 Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: - Espacio is ugly All that needs to be said. 4x4 master race btw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IChristy 6 Posted May 26, 2018 I like the T-25 and Broadwing. If only we could remove the plastic parts on the T-25, then maybe more people would use it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entei2 0 Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, InfernalPaladin said: All that needs to be said. 4x4 master race btw only losers drive a 4x4 vegas, pioneer is the real master race Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nite 261 Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) You know, I could swear the Kurai had enough max hp to only just barely survive taking a concussion to the windshield when fully repaired. That should at least count for something right? (unless I'm mis-remembering) More seriously, I don't see how the Bishada is supposed to be all that good when it has no weight to it any at all, most other regularly used vehicles could push it around and woe be unto you if its rear quarter catches on another car. Plus the Growl actually has better handling than it if you know how to keep APB's weird car handling under control. EDIT: Checked APBDB and yes, a conc does 1108.8 vehicle damage while the Kurai has 1150 max hp, so indeed, only just barely survives. Edited May 26, 2018 by Nite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etsukoo 6 Posted May 26, 2018 Coywolf 4x4 is pretty good - Mikro is very nice as a spawn car because you can park in spots other cars can not easily reach. I think they are under rated in your list. Regardless Pioneer and Vegas 4x4 are the best. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhosT 1301 Posted May 26, 2018 Don't you dare to put the almighty fresno in "average tier". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted May 26, 2018 varziga being in shit tier despite being better than the mikro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HK33E 40 Posted May 26, 2018 Vegas 4x4 Sucks. RWD Vegas >>> And, call me high or something, I think they should make the Armored Truck purchasable. It'll be fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolpack 99 Posted May 26, 2018 Top Tier: Vegas 4x4, Pioneer, Espacio Every other car: why do you even use these? Also who even cares about espacio having bad rear seat shooting angles? No one ever does drivebys since we have car surfer anyway, hell even before car surfer barely anyone did drivebys lol. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Szambi 85 Posted May 26, 2018 C'mon, Varzuga's better than Calabria... I also think that you should put either Growl to good tier or put it AND Bishada into average one. Jericho is pretty much a straight upgrade to Bishada so maybe top? But at the same time it's less meta than 4x4 and Pioneer... It's something in between... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magik 184 Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: Discuss: Top Tier: 4x4 Vegas, Pioneer, Dump Truck (Even after the nerfs) (Cars that everyone should have and are pretty much a standard in every mission.) Good Tier: Bishada, Jericho, Vegas. (Great alternatives that still have their places and no HUGE flaws.) Average Tier: Mikro, Espacio, Cisco, Broadwing, Fresno, CoyWolf, Vaquero, T-25. (Average. Just average. Usually good at one niche and have one feature that stands out with no MAJOR flaws. Or has something that fills the role better.) Bad Tier: Sentinel, Montane, Han Veo, Calabria, Growl, Ceresco. (Usually just all around bad or have numerous flaws. Or has something that fills the role far better.) ShLt Tier: Ravan, Varzuga. Uninstall Tier: Kurai, Moirai. (Huge flaws and just all around bad.) Changes: 1.1 - New Tier added, some moved down to it. T-25 moved based on discussion and notes on vehicles against the same role. (Mainly that a lot of the trucks were grouped in the Bad Tier and the T-25 was the slightly stand out one.) If you take this list as the be all end all, please pour your tears into my cup. No Tier List is ever to the final answer on rankings or be stuck in time for metas change. I have my own opinions. Great Cars:4x4 Vegas(Move this car down the list to good, and replace with Vegas. 4x4 imo is an uncontrollable autistic vehicle), Pioneer, Dump Truck (Even after the nerfs) I don't want to include a car you can't buy.(Cars that everyone should have and are pretty much a standard in every mission.) Good Cars: Bishada, Jericho, Vegas. (Great alternatives that still have their places and no HUGE flaws.) Average Cars:Mikro (I also think this is a good car), Espacio (it's a good car), Cisco, Broadwing (Also a good car), Fresno(Also another good car), Coy Wolf(A 4 door mikro; good car), Vaquero, T-25. (Average. Just average. Usually good at one niche and have one feature that stands out with no MAJOR flaws. Or has something that fills the role better.) Okay Cars: Sentinel, Montane, Han Veo, Calabria, Growl, Ceresco (This car is the only one that can actually be used for ram raiding due to it's storage capacity, it deserves to be average). (Usually just all around bad or have numerous flaws. Or has something that fills the role far better.) Ehhh Cars(remove this category):Ravan, Varzuga I'd move both of these cars up to the Okay because they are a decent set of cars for new players. Broken Cars: Kurai, Moirai (I have a hard time believing that this car is "flawed", I'd move it to average because the Broadwing is still a better car). (Huge flaws and just all around bad.) Edited May 26, 2018 by Sergsininia 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nessie 81 Posted May 26, 2018 The real top tier car is an enforcer Calabria customized like the basic criminal car. With stealth and radar mods that thing can be parked right under objectives without ever being noticed by the opponents Plus Nitro on it makes it surprisingly quick, while still enough nimble to run over players with ease. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites