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Minimizing your playtime will result in less exposure to nefarious players.
I play once a month now .. and could never be happier.
Thank you LO ..

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3 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:its like ........ A UNICORN lol
now if we count hackusations , I've been accused for :
running people over in a npc vegas
shooting an opgl on a bridge making it bounce so it can kill someone running to me
killing someone with one of my guns who ran out of cover at a 90 degree angle to me so they couldnt see me ( i flanked )
requesting leadership because someone didnt know how to call backup ( omg the scandal )
using a greande to do a lovers suicide type of death on a burnign car in the team kill ending of the mission ( get so many kills and you win so i blew everyone to high heaven while i was by myself )
using an osmaw to blow up cars they used for cover
....... and wearing a bunny outfit
edit : forgot arresting peoele with the basic LTL and finishing them with percs when i hid around a corner to survive ( omg you didnt die and arrested me yo cheater - sort of thing)
i dont get it lol
You tell 'em Broski ..
haha

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14 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:title : It is a cheaters game!
op post :
me : two different topics again ?
nope its 3 : they don't exist like before so people see what they want rather than admitting they had lag from a less than great internet service or just played terrible even if they had a great service.
i have seen one the past month..... Jericho.
Hahaa,,,
I'm with you on this one bro .. lol.
They do not exist ...

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18 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:All I wanna know is... do I not see cheaters because I'm that good? Or because I'm that bad?
... its the second one isn't it
It may be option 3...
You don't play the game as much.
Hell, that's my excuse.
My play time has dropped quite dramatically over the last 6-8 months,
and the 1st thing I noticed is "Hey,,, I don't see as many cheaters as I used to"
Oh the irony ,,, I reduced my play time to improve my gametime.
Welp ....

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Why only old players stick around?
"Can't teach an old dog new tricks ?"

I've been playing since the summer of 2011.
Back then I was playing with a group of friends I made in game.
We had a clan of about 6-8 of us, and had a great time for a few years.
Missions with voice comms was great.
Then the all left.
Too many cheaters they said.
I stuck around just cause I liked the game, and I figured I could still enjoy the gun shooting aspect,
less the competitiveness and questionable players, by sticking with Fight Club.
Questionable players in FC was less of an issue for me than missions.
I also like going into Mission Districts just to drive around.
Great fun racing at high speeds avoiding traffic and what not.
Waterfront is probably my favorite, and there is always some commotion/cluster f*ck going on at the Double B gas station.
As an Enforcer, I also chase down runaway garbage trucks that are wreaking havoc in an attempt to pull them over.
It gets pretty intense when 4 or 5 more enforcers are chasing after the garbage truck, sirens blaring,
cars are being plowed through.
It's all good fun.
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I think this is a great option, to try a weapon, vehicle .. whatever for free.
for 30min.
I would like to see this "TRY FOR FREE" option extended to at least,
a 24h period.
WHY ?
In the case of weapons, the clock starts ticking, when you click the link.
Logged in, was gonna head to FC to take full advantage of my 30min evaluation period.
FC was full.
OK, I'll do some missions.. and waited , a few times, before missions started.
I was able to get a sense of the weapon I am thinking of purchasing,
but was disappointed in the total allotted time for a 30min evaluation which amounted to maybe 13min.
I suppose I could pony up some G1C for a full 30 day evaluation....
I just hate playing patty-cake, and would like an opportunity to fully evaluate the weapon/vehicle of interest,
before I make a financial commitment.
Am I wrong ?
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1 hour ago, Solamente said:provided you or the n5/p5 player is on a mission
the previous system:
- n5 player and you are an enforcer/p5 player and you are a criminal - a yellow nametag, a yellow star on the minimap, and a red crosshair when aimed at
- n5 player and you are a criminal - a yellow nametag, a yellow star on the minimap, and a green crosshair when aimed at
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p5 player and you are an enforcer - a green nametag, a green star on the minimap, and a green crosshair when aimed at
- all n5/p5 players can be interacted with
the new system:
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a grey nametag, no star on the minimap, and a white crosshair when aimed at
- no n5/p5 players can be interacted with
This helps.
Thanks for the explanation.
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On 2/9/2020 at 9:55 PM, Flaws said:Even if you look at the bounty icon first, you can easily see what color the name is as it's literally right below it...
Either way, neither me nor anyone I know has any issue with that but making the icon not visible to people out of your mission would be fine too. Makes no difference if you pay attention.
Hmm, an interesting point.
This, I did not know.
Things have changed, and I need to take note.
Thank you.
This is helpful.
On 2/9/2020 at 9:56 PM, Solamente said:it's only confusing to you because you're used to the old even worse system, and now you know better
i'm willing to bet you're in a very small minority that doesn't operate based on red/green nametags or crosshairs
edit: i guess i should add that i don't have any issue with the icon not appearing, it just seems like a really small nitpick to me when you would have had the same issue under the old system where friendlies had n5/p5 icons as well
If only this little "tid-bit" was shared with us all.
I was not aware of this.
Documentation, Patch Notes , I should have read.
It escaped me.
Thanks for clarifying.
Merged.
Sooo,
What colors ares the name tags of someone that has an N5/P5 Icon above them ?
Red - Vunerable ?
Yellow = ?
any other colors ?
I did not see any mention of this before.
Sorry.
Merged.
What, the discussion has ended ?
All I ask is for some clarification after my observations have been proven lack of knowledge.
Help a "brother" out, and other unknowing players.
We can't just "lambast" someone without providing guidance and clarification.
Or can we ?
How does it now work ?
Link to Patch notes I would read.
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3 minutes ago, Solamente said:the icon won't appear unless the name is visible
If the N5/P5 Icon would NOT appear, that would be helpful.
In these instances, they do appear, so , not very helpful.
These players have the "Appearance of N5/P5" as it has always been.
The only difference is, they take no damage.
Confusing ... ?
Yeah...
1 minute ago, Flaws said:Almost everyone looks at the color of the nametag first before even the bounty icon... How do you not see that the name is grey for such a long period that you manage to "unload a hail of bullets" without seeing that......?
Not true ...
All players look at the N5/P5 Tag first, Player name second.,
We are playing the same game ?
Yes ?
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1 minute ago, Solamente said:was it just the icon or was his name yellow?
otherwise i refer back to my previous statement of only red and green names mattering
I did not see any yellow.
I saw the N5 ICON above the player.
Was I vulnerable to be shot ?
I do not know, and I did not wait to find out.
I fired upon them, with wasted effort.
THIS is the problem.
There is no way of knowing, until after firing multiple rounds.
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Just now, Solamente said:afaik n5/p5 players can't interfere in ongoing mission they aren't a part of
if this is not the case, then i do agree that little orbit dropped the ball
They may not be able to interfere with a mission,
but they sure do show up with the N5/P5 Icon.
That's why , while in mission , I stopped and unloaded a hail of bullets.
He was not in my mission.
Wasted breath, and time.
I had no way of knowing.
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Just now, Solamente said:if you're on a mission, then you don't have to assume anything - either they're a red opponent or a green teammate
I was in a mission.
Spotted an N5...
I fired many bullets at the player.
He was not in my mission.
How was I to know ?
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3 minutes ago, Solamente said:what indicates that he's in your mission?
Well, to be honest,, there was none.
I had to assume, or face grave consequences.
That is the challenge that we face,
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40 minutes ago, xXD4v1dXx said:Little orbit already stated nothings final... Like seriously y'all cry waaaaay too much about a free game that's clearly still going through fixes and changes. Yall need to start acting like adults bruh fr, its honestly pathetic. Just give a good reason on why you like or dislike a change then move on, Im sure they'll take note of it. but to sit n whine and complain about every little thing is little banana energy. Thanks for listening to my TED Talk.
You're right.
It is a free game, for some.
Although transparency regarding changes might be considered "too much to ask",
I would surely like to know how these new changes work.
I understand, I was asking for too much, and I need to step back.
Thank you for speaking reason, where I had shown none.
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Great ..
Absolutely great...
Working as intended.
I am in a mission, I spot an N5 Crim, he is most obviously in my mission as I unleash a hail of bullets upon him.
But... he's not in my mission, or any mission for all I know.
Wonderful.
Great...
Little Orbit...
You "screwed the pooch" on this one.
Fair enough ?
How the hell we suppose to know ?
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On 2/5/2020 at 10:08 AM, CookiePuss said:On the one hand, people complain about Golds stomping on lower threat players.
On the other hand, golds get shit talked for abandoning missions with lower threat players.
Reminder that the community agrees on nothing.
I always attempt to /abandonmission as soon as humanly possible.
Whether my Teammates are lowly Bronze , questionable Silvers or godly Golds.
I'm gone.
No, it does not leave me much after that.
But still fighting the "good fight"...
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3 minutes ago, TheHidden-Tember said:This isn't a bug, this is the devs FORGETTING to update every sub-mechanic related to bounties.
Instead they probably just toggled the switch that says "people outside mission can interact with you" and left it at that.
Bandaid patch.I envision the following scenario;
Bounties across the map, some in mission, some not.
Players out of mission start to ignore all bounties, as their experience has been they can no longer interact with them. (Shoot them)
An out of mission bounty starts shooting and killing all nearby players, because players have ignored them.
4 minutes ago, TheHidden-Tember said:- You shouldn't even be able to SEE the bounty icon above the head of someone you can't shoot. It serves no purpose
This would be a big help.
Makes sense.
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31 minutes ago, TheHidden-Tember said:Also it's kind of jarring to see bounties everywhere on the map screen but I'm not allowed to kill them.
This is what's confusing for me.
There may be some bounties that are not in mission, but the only indicator of this that I am aware of,
is to shoot them.
If they are out of mission they will take damage, if they are in mission, they won't.
Seems kind of wonky, or is this a bug ?
Shouldn't there be some indicator to determine if the bounty is in mission vs not in mission ?
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Some questions concerning the changes to Heat-5
1) Since Heat-5 players are no longer vulnerable to anyone outside of their mission,
does the Heat-5 player still have a Heat-5 Icon above them ?
My guess is that they do.
I noticed a few times while I was not in a mission, I was shooting at a Heat-5 player (indicator icon above them),and that player was invulnerable.
If a Heat-5 player is in a mission, shouldn't they have NO Heat-5 icon indicator ?
Players outside of a mission has no way of knowing if a Heat-5 player is out of mission and
vulnerable until a player starts shooting the Heat-5 player and realizes that they are taking no damage.
2) What is the purpose now for a Heat-5 player ?
Assuming that the only time a Heat-5 player is vulnerable to everyone,
when does that occur ?
After their mission has ended if they still have Heat-5 ?
When a criminal is ram raiding & mugging ?
What about an Enforcer ?
Thanks
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I can't speak for all, but this has been a very informative discussion.
Some things that I have learned;
1) Probably the most compelling is this;
14 hours ago, CookiePuss said:Imagine thinking that because a thing happens, it is allowed.
And I assumed anything that happened in game, ie; cheating, hacking , glitching, exploits, toxicity ..
was implicitly allowed by Little Orbit.
This was a small wakeup call for me .. Thank you.
2) Use the /ignore command
A novel approach, never used it myself as I need all the friends I can get, yes.. even the mean people3) Do not respond to their comments
Won't they get mad after a while ?4) Respond back, requesting to be friends, ask for gaming tips, strategy and what not
I have done this many times, even pleading with them for up to 30min or longer to accept my friend request,only to be /ignored by them
(I was added to their ignore list, not mine)
5) Go to Lobby, take a break
Make a sandwich or a HotpocketThe Anonymous Game play, no matter what game, will have it's share of Jerks,
and no, you will not see them out in the real world spewing their toxicity.
The benefits of anonymity.
Not having to take responsibility for ones actions. (Like a slap-up-side the head)
If you allow yourself to become a victim, you will be a victim.
I choose not to be a victim.
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Re-Edited for Readability:
QuoteHello. In the course of recent events, I have some questions.
This appeal is more to the administration of Little Orbit, but the community (players) can also write their opinion.
I'll start with the relationship of the Little Orbit to the community (players).When they banned the use of Launchers or configs, they blocked a lot of players without warning.
Later, Matt Scott explained this situation, allegedly by the fact that they will block for some Launcher or configs.
Matt Scott also stated that players will be unlocked for the first time. (Although before all this, as Little Orbit acquired this game, Matt Scott said that he would make amendments to the account of blocking.
Even on forum here once man wrote, ostensibly block will the first time not forever and to example ranging from five months and ending one year, Ah and then already forever.
Naturally, depending on the violation.) It's not even that, let's go back to the moment when Matt Scott said that the players who were blocked will be unblocked in the next few days.
After that, they blocked my account, and a few days later my friend's account.
But during this period, we did not use anything or any Launchers.
We submitted an application in support of Small Orbit, they responded 25 days later using the template as always, saying "write in support of Easy Anti Cheat, because they themselves do not have the authority to check and proceedings".
Well, we wrote to the EAS, they did not really give any answer and still ignore the support (this is about 4 + months).
That is, I have been playing since 2012, the funds invested, but so much time is wasted.
The administration does not understand at all. This game is already scary to enter, and also real money to pay you for this attitude.
Online and so there is no.
Let's move on to the next one.
Just yesterday, about ~ 10 people were blocked again (this is according to the stories of familiar people).
Two of them are my personal acquaintances.
The person was standing in the social district he was kicked from the area, the reason for the blockage and the period are not specified.
The second person just went into the game and the same situation.
And these people have from 2000 to 5000 hours.
What's going on?
Why for about five months I see people with third-party software (cheat, software) play a full squad in each district from 5 people with cheats.Why don't you see it?
Put a person in the area at least for an hour to check for suspicious persons.
I don't understand what this attitude is, without knowing anything you just block ordinary players?Would make some exception for guys of high ranks, with a large number hours, also transactions.
of course all understand, there is cheaters and among such people, but here indeed brad.
@Context, the use of paragraphs and "Line-Breaks" help tremendously in readability.
Concerning your post, I hope you get this sorted out.
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Haha, I like the encouraging "snuggle wuggle boofy" gif.

No, we don't have to be "giggling simpletons" to have fun.
Then again, we don't all have to have the "Win at all costs" attitude either.
And yes, there are players that have that attitude that "I need to win at all costs",
and some even go to extraordinary lengths to improve their odds and to "get that extra advantage"
At the very least, these players will use the few guns available that are the most versatile at all ranges, to maintain whatever advantage they can.
Yes, the NTEC obviously is one of them.
I get it.
It makes sense.
I have an NTEC Ursus that I pull out once in a while.
And it is a great weapon.
I just get bored using it sometimes.
Some players will play at very low graphics settings to get that "extra FPS".
Their graphics looks like crap, but I don't think they're there for the nice visual display.
On the milder side, you have some players using different shaders that provide a better outline of opponents.
Again, the graphics look horrible, but a pleasant visual experience is not their concern.
Custom crosshairs are great too.
Totally alleviates the in game Crosshair Bloom effect.
You're experiencing in game crosshair bloom, or a weapon that provides a "wide" crosshair bloom at rest..." ? , no problem.
A custom crosshair takes care of the in game crosshair mechanics.
A tight crosshair center screen all the time.
Some people would even go so far as removing explosion and smoke visuals, which would obstruct a persons view.
Not gonna even get into the fire rate / no recoil / triggerbot macro discussion.
We all know these provide no real advantage.
But the wallhacks, well, it's always nice to know if someone is sneaking up on you.
I like winning too.
It's just not the "be all / end all" of some peoples gameplay,
And no, we are not "giggling simpletons".
We just have different priorities.
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14 hours ago, KnifuWaifu said:I can't believe I'm so late to this topic.
Clearly LMGs are not as popular as they should be because the best one hasn't entered the game yet and the best use for LMGs hasn't been added yet.
But that obvious oversight aside - LMGs are fun, and so much love to anyone who mains one - but they're like 98% perfect rn, which
unfortunately for the meta-players isn't that 101% they always want, so LMGs will always pale in comparison.That said, I prefer it that way, I like being an extra special snowflake with my slightly different weapon - kills feel more rewarding and I think I round off a team more effectively than if we all just meta'd up and boringed our way through every match. I'm an LMG-toting silver and I'm proud of it and wouldn't change that for the world. (although might break even if they added extra clothing and outfit slots or returned 1-Day Premiums)
Something something add PvE too.
I'm right with you on this one brother.
I love using the LMG's as my main. (SHAW / ALIG)
Currently using the N-SSW 74 Dvah as my main.
I do get some complaints at times, mainly that I need to use a different weapon.
But honestly , I love using this gun.
I suppose in the end,,, it's all about having fun.
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Welp ...
I believe I found the problem ..
I was starting APB using the the APBprogram instead of the APB Launcherprogram
This bypassed any updates I might have received.
Although @Fortune Runnermay have received poor ratings for hygiene...
I'd like to give him a plus +1 for effort ...
@Salvick Did provide the solution ,, so Kudos to his effort.
I will no longer SPAM this forum for answers,,, as all has been answered,
@Fortune Runner Soap on a Rope ,,
Work with me brother ,,
Merged.
Merry Christmas everyone.


When did they remove the N5/P5 showing on map?
in General Discussion Archive
Posted · Edited by Westford
From what I see, N5/P5 still showing up in district, (not sure about the map view),
and as confusing as this change has been, I faltered to my lesser instincts and have been attacking ALL N5's through out the districts.
In mission or not.
My sirens blaring as I chase down the nefarious N5 scrub.
I may not be able to shoot them, but I will do what I can to remove that "Badge of Honor" from their tag.
God bless you.